In terms of presidential greatness, it's Trump by a wide margin. Clinton/Biden/0bama are dead last.

[jacksonlamb]

If democrats didn’t work so hard to intentionally undermine the economy, trump’s economic policies wouldn’t stand out so much.

They are in the garbage, RoshDosh.

 

[Flopper]

Guys, I think this recent victory in Iran sealed it for President Trump as the Greatest of All Time. This puts him clearly in the #1 spot for wartime presidents, given his other victories this year. I had already thought he achieved it, but some believed he still trailed Lincoln. In terms of the economy, it's Trump hands down and has been for some time. Today, he is on schedule to rack up his 158th record DJIA high close. Incredible. The runner up, Clinton, has 92 in eight years and those were all due to the 104th and 105th Congresses.. 0bama, as you would expect was the worst overall, closely rivaled by Biden and Clinton.

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What a load crap!
We got nothing out of Trump's war except higher inflation and gas prices. He has made a mess out everything he has touched, immigration, healthcare, tariffs, inflation, .....

 

[jacksonlamb]

Mashmont, Trump is signing a surrender treaty on Friday. No regime change, no surrender of UE, $24B in reparations to Iran. And on and on and on...

Mashmont said:
Guys, I think this recent victory in Iran sealed it for President Trump as the Greatest of All Time. This puts him clearly in the #1 spot for wartime presidents, given his other victories this year. I had already thought he achieved it, but some believed he still trailed Lincoln. In terms of the economy, it's Trump hands down and has been for some time. Today, he is on schedule to rack up his 158th record DJIA high close. Incredible. The runner up, Clinton, has 92 in eight years and those were all due to the 104th and 105th Congresses.. 0bama, as you would expect was the worst overall, closely rivaled by Biden and Clinton.

 

[Mashmont]

What a load crap!
We got nothing out of Trump's war except higher inflation and gas prices. He has made a mess out everything he has touched, immigration, healthcare, tariffs, inflation, .....

So you're one of the 38% not in the roaring stock market?

 

[Mac1958]

We got nothing out of Trump's war except higher inflation and gas prices. He has made a mess out everything he has touched, immigration, healthcare, tariffs, inflation, .....

But he insults and has "his" DOJ investigate and harass people he hates. He annoys people they hate. He makes the flock feel like they're smart and belong to something.

And that's the priority.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Group	% Not Invested	Notes
All U.S. Adults	~39 %	Includes retirees and non‑workers
Working Americans	~33 %	Weighted mix of full‑ and part‑time
Full‑Time Workers	~30 %	Most have access to 401(k) plans
Part‑Time Workers	~45 %	Often lack employer retirement access
Workers earning < $40 k	~82 %	Least likely to invest

The main reasons are limited access to employer plans, low disposable income, and debt pressures.

 

[jacksonlamb]

As of spring 2026, surveys show that roughly 70–75 % of people in the United Kingdom hold an unfavorable view of Donald Trump, while only about 15–20 % express a favorable opinion.

 

[Mashmont]

But he insults and has "his" DOJ investigate and harass people he hates. He annoys people they hate. He makes the flock feel like they're smart and belong to something.

And that's the priority.

You guys aren't in the stock market, are you?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

What a load crap!
We got nothing out of Trump's war except higher inflation and gas prices. He has made a mess out everything he has touched, immigration, healthcare, tariffs, inflation, .....

Iran is looking for a few good floppers.

 

[Votto]

You sound like a loony Nazi. Unstoppable? You moron. He is surrendering to Iran on Friday.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Iran is looking for a few good floppers.

Iran won the war.

 

[jacksonlamb]

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EU untouched.

No regime change.

$300 B in reparations.

 

[Moonglow]

Guys, I think this recent victory in Iran sealed it for President Trump as the Greatest of All Time. This puts him clearly in the #1 spot for wartime presidents, given his other victories this year. I had already thought he achieved it, but some believed he still trailed Lincoln. In terms of the economy, it's Trump hands down and has been for some time. Today, he is on schedule to rack up his 158th record DJIA high close. Incredible. The runner up, Clinton, has 92 in eight years and those were all due to the 104th and 105th Congresses.. 0bama, as you would expect was the worst overall, closely rivaled by Biden and Clinton.

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Obama’s Legacy of Failure

In his 2008 convention speech, Barack Obama declared that as president he would clean up the mess created by “the failed presidency of George W. Bush.” Now many Americans say he has done a...

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Historians and political scientists consistently rank Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and Franklin D. Roosevelt as the top three U.S. presidents. While specific rankings vary between polls and public opinion, major academic surveys, like the C-SPAN Presidential Survey and the Siena College Research Institute, provide benchmark frameworks. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Top 10 U.S. Presidents (According to Historians)
Consensus from the C-SPAN and Siena College polls highlights these leaders as the most celebrated in American history:

• 1. Abraham Lincoln: Praised for preserving the Union during the Civil War and issuing the Emancipation Proclamation.
• 2. George Washington: Ranked highly as the "Father of the Country" and for establishing foundational executive precedents.
  • 3. Franklin D. Roosevelt: Commended for leading the country through the Great Depression and World War II with the New Deal.
  • 4. Theodore Roosevelt: Recognized for his progressive reforms and conservation efforts.
  • 5. Dwight D. Eisenhower: Respected for his military leadership, managing Cold War tensions, and authorizing the Interstate Highway System.
  • 6. Harry S. Truman: Credited with concluding WWII and navigating early post-war foreign policy.
  • 7. Thomas Jefferson: Celebrated as a Founding Father and for orchestrating the Louisiana Purchase.
  • 8. John F. Kennedy: Consistently ranks highly among the public and historians for his vision and crisis management during the Cold War.
  • 9. Ronald Reagan: Noted for revitalizing the conservative movement and overseeing the end of the Cold War.
  • 10. Barack Obama: Highly rated for steering the nation out of the Great Recession and for landmark healthcare legislation. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Bottom Tier
Conversely, historians often place the same select presidents at the bottom of these lists due to their inability to prevent national crisis, poor legislative efficacy, or controversial policies: [1]

• James Buchanan: Frequently ranked last, primarily criticized for his failure to avert the Civil War. [1, 2]
• Andrew Johnson: Often placed near the bottom for his poor handling of Reconstruction and for becoming the first president to be impeached.
• Donald J. Trump: Often ranked in the bottom tier by historians, though his overall placement and reputation remain highly debated and polarized among political scholars. [1, 2]
• Franklin Pierce: Viewed unfavorably for his role in pushing the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which exacerbated regional tensions. [1, 2]

Public vs. Scholar Rankings
It is important to note that academic rankings differ from public opinion. For example, YouGov's US Presidents Ratings reflect broader public popularity and name recognition, where icons like John F. Kennedy can outpace the historical assessments of academics. [1]

 

[Winco]

So you're one of the 38% not in the roaring stock market?

????????

You guys aren't in the stock market, are you?

Been in since 1985.

Done Great under EVERY Potus, (Bush Years)
Trump is nothing special dude.

I ALWAYS have data to shoot down your claims.



NFL situation.

1). If team A takes an early lead, and never gives up the lead, and wins by 50, in the Championship Game (Super Bowl) against Team C.

2). If Team B, in the same season, plays a back and forth game with Team C, In the Conference Championship, with lead changes 11 times and wins by 1 in the last second with a game winning FG.


Which team was 'probably' more dominant?





Curious to watch you try to defend team B.


Team B is ALWAYS team B.

 

[Winco]

Historians and political scientists consistently rank Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and Franklin D. Roosevelt as the top three U.S. presidents. While specific rankings vary between polls and public opinion, major academic surveys, like the C-SPAN Presidential Survey and the Siena College Research Institute, provide benchmark frameworks. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Top 10 U.S. Presidents (According to Historians)
Consensus from the C-SPAN and Siena College polls highlights these leaders as the most celebrated in American history:

• 1. Abraham Lincoln: Praised for preserving the Union during the Civil War and issuing the Emancipation Proclamation.
• 2. George Washington:Ranked highly as the "Father of the Country" and for establishing foundational executive precedents.
  • 3. Franklin D. Roosevelt: Commended for leading the country through the Great Depression and World War II with the New Deal.
  • 4. Theodore Roosevelt: Recognized for his progressive reforms and conservation efforts.
  • 5. Dwight D. Eisenhower: Respected for his military leadership, managing Cold War tensions, and authorizing the Interstate Highway System.
  • 6. Harry S. Truman: Credited with concluding WWII and navigating early post-war foreign policy.
  • 7. Thomas Jefferson: Celebrated as a Founding Father and for orchestrating the Louisiana Purchase.
  • 8. John F. Kennedy: Consistently ranks highly among the public and historians for his vision and crisis management during the Cold War.
  • 9. Ronald Reagan: Noted for revitalizing the conservative movement and overseeing the end of the Cold War.
  • 10. Barack Obama: Highly rated for steering the nation out of the Great Recession and for landmark healthcare legislation. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Bottom Tier
Conversely, historians often place the same select presidents at the bottom of these lists due to their inability to prevent national crisis, poor legislative efficacy, or controversial policies: [1]

• James Buchanan: Frequently ranked last, primarily criticized for his failure to avert the Civil War. [1, 2]
• Andrew Johnson: Often placed near the bottom for his poor handling of Reconstruction and for becoming the first president to be impeached.
• Donald J. Trump: Often ranked in the bottom tier by historians, though his overall placement and reputation remain highly debated and polarized among political scholars. [1, 2]
• Franklin Pierce: Viewed unfavorably for his role in pushing the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which exacerbated regional tensions. [1, 2]

Public vs. Scholar Rankings
It is important to note that academic rankings differ from public opinion. For example, YouGov's US Presidents Ratings reflect broader public popularity and name recognition, where icons like John F. Kennedy can outpace the historical assessments of academics. [1]

Trump is a disaster.
Regardless of how Mashmont defines Biden and Obama, the World knows the truth.


Sorry Mashmont.

 

[Lockback]

He wins the award for most felony convictions too. Obviously, Mt. Rushmore bound.

 

[Moonglow]

Trump is a disaster.
Regardless of how Mashmont defines Biden and Obama, the World knows the truth.


Sorry Mashmont.

Mashmont thought Bea Arthur was a beauty queen.

 

[Slyhunter]

Carter was worse than Obama I think.

 

[Moonglow]

He does, especially those impeachments.

 

[jacksonlamb]