In-state tuition isn't good enough, illegals want college for free

[Listening]

Can always count on the left to bash the source, then later ignore when other sources are saying the same thing. Like it's a big surprise that amnesty advocates are whining because the poor illegals shouldn't have any burdens placed on them for the better life the seek. They want a lot, but aren't willing to sacrifice anything. That is wrong. We give and give and yet they still bitch about virtually everything. They want driver's licenses, they want welfare, they free college and they want amnesty. Some even want the border gone and for Mexico to extend north. They burn our flags, bad mouth our citizens, refuse to learn our language and yet Dems bow to them just for the votes. That makes the liberals even more shallow than the illegals who make unreasonable demands. Of course, the government has catered to them for so long, they have adopted the entitlement mentality. Fuck them.

I bet you drive on the public roads and send your child to public school. Oh did I say that you're using the internet that was developed by the government.

Save it

Which means you own the system because those assholes in public service don't work for free.

You can shove it.

 

[The T]

It's free up to grade 12, then students have to pay through the nose, and be in debt slavery to pay for the next four years of education. . Nice policy, conservatives.

I'm sorry, excuse me? Please explain how conservatives are responsible for the high cost of education.

Do tell, fat ass, do tell.

Maybe he can also explain that WE as a nation spend more per capita, per student than any other nation and get abysmal results? You know, people like him?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Education should be free to ALL CITIZENS.

No problem. Let us know once school buildings start erecting themselves and teachers begin working voluntarily.

 

[The T]

I wrote this letter to the editor in March of last year:

Nash: Let's amend the 14th Amendment | Online Athens

Yes, the moniker was and is extreme as it implies, because I was a neo-conservative when I joined there. However the point remains.

Whom cares what you were? Good form...

 

[Listening]

It's free up to grade 12, then students have to pay through the nose, and be in debt slavery to pay for the next four years of education. . Nice policy, conservatives.

I'm sorry, excuse me? Please explain how conservatives are responsible for the high cost of education.

Do tell, fat ass, do tell.

Maybe he can also explain that WE as a nation spend more per capita, per student than any other nation and get abysmal results? You know, people like him?

Notice they say the same thing about health care.

But who already owns education and f**ks it up royally.

So we give them health care to screw up even more.

 

[The T]

Education should be free to ALL CITIZENS.

No problem. Let us know once school buildings start erecting themselves and teachers begin working voluntarily.

And adults start becoming involved with their progeny instead of letting the State indoctrinate them.

 

[The T]

I'm sorry, excuse me? Please explain how conservatives are responsible for the high cost of education.

Do tell, fat ass, do tell.

Maybe he can also explain that WE as a nation spend more per capita, per student than any other nation and get abysmal results? You know, people like him?

Notice they say the same thing about health care.

But who already owns education and f**ks it up royally.

So we give them health care to screw up even more.

Agreed. Government screws up pretty much everything they touch...and I'd say the military...but Obama is fast destroying them too.

 

[gallantwarrior]

In state tuition? How about a jail cell and depotation....

That's more like what they've "earned" and deserve. Illegal invaders.

 

[Clementine]

Can always count on the left to bash the source, then later ignore when other sources are saying the same thing. Like it's a big surprise that amnesty advocates are whining because the poor illegals shouldn't have any burdens placed on them for the better life the seek. They want a lot, but aren't willing to sacrifice anything. That is wrong. We give and give and yet they still bitch about virtually everything. They want driver's licenses, they want welfare, they free college and they want amnesty. Some even want the border gone and for Mexico to extend north. They burn our flags, bad mouth our citizens, refuse to learn our language and yet Dems bow to them just for the votes. That makes the liberals even more shallow than the illegals who make unreasonable demands. Of course, the government has catered to them for so long, they have adopted the entitlement mentality. Fuck them.

I bet you drive on the public roads and send your child to public school. Oh did I say that you're using the internet that was developed by the government.

Save it

Yes and I've paid plenty to help build the roads and schools and I pay for internet. When my kids were in school, I paid a lot for costs. I also was given a list of stuff to send with them on the first day, which included 3 of each item. The teacher said not to put their names on the items because they were shared by the class. About a third of the parents supplied everything from paper to crayons for the entire class. The others got school fees waived, free lunches and were not expected to contribute any supplies.

I don't ask or get anything for free. I think paying a private business would have meant better quality schooling, but there are none in my area.

Illegals want free shit.

There is a world of difference between people paying for services and people demanding things at no cost. I have a right to complain that I didn't get my money's worth from government. I don't think illegals have a damn thing to complain about because they aren't supposed to be here without going through the legal process.

We did have roads, schools and hospitals before government took over the responsibility for them. And nothing the government has done is high quality, but the cost went up.

Most of us won't get our money's worth with Obamacare either because it sucks and it's expensive to those stuck paying the tab.

 

[Clementine]

The University of California offered a free education until Ronald Reagan became governor.

Education is not free - someone has to pay for it

I was going to say the same thing. There is no such thing as free, only free to some, but it means other people pay double.

That is why socialism does not work and will never work. People aren't interested in carrying others just because they don't want to be productive.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I'm sorry, excuse me? Please explain how conservatives are responsible for the high cost of education.

Do tell, fat ass, do tell.

Maybe he can also explain that WE as a nation spend more per capita, per student than any other nation and get abysmal results? You know, people like him?

Notice they say the same thing about health care.

But who already owns education and f**ks it up royally.

So we give them health care to screw up even more.

I think what you should be thinking is reform. Maybe adopting one of the top 5 educational systems...

Me, either norways or japans Of course you're not as you don't give a damn about the little guy that can't afford the 50k+ to put their child through private school.

 

[Vox]

Since they're not allowed to work in this country....what taxes did they pay into the system to get instate tuition....

What should they pay out of state tuition costs if they live in the state? Why should they pay international rates if they've lived here for 10, 15, 20 years?

This is California. You're taxed out of every single orifice. You think these people haven't paid sales taxes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes, tobacco taxes and yes, I'm sure many of them have paid income taxes.

you being sure doesn't make them paying income taxes. they don't pay even payroll taxes, forget about income ones

everything else does not pay the leeching the system they already do - secondary education to start with.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Read the article. Didn't see anything about illegals wanting college for free. I saw illegals bemoaning the student loan system. And rightfully so, it's a train wreck waiting to happen.

They shouldn't be able to get the loans in the first place.

In fact, they should be afraid to even ask for a loan.. They should know that the minute they ask for one, they will be the next to be deported.

 

[Vox]

What should they pay out of state tuition costs if they live in the state? Why should they pay international rates if they've lived here for 10, 15, 20 years?

they are OUT OF THE COUNTRY, not only out of state.

I'm pretty sure they are INSIDE OF THE COUNTRY, since that is what you guys have been freaking out about.

They should pay international students rates, not the in-state rates.
They are ILLEGALS.

Yes, they should pay international rates, even though they are in state. Such sound logic.

so what that they are INSIDE the country? they are not CITIZENS or even legal residents of this country which makes them OUTSIDERS

pay the international rate, or don't get into college.

Simple.

are you intentionally being obtuse?

or you have no idea what is the purpose of the country ( and the government, for that matter) and that it is supported and paid for by it's citizens and legal residents to defend and protect the rights of it's LEGAL citizens and residents?

go try to get the internal rates for tuition in any university in the most "socialist" Sweden you would be kicked off the country in a second - if they found you are there illegally

 

[ScienceRocks]

Let's adopt Japans educational system as the outline of our educational system...Conservatives is that a solution?

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