In Sign of Warming, 1,600 Years of Ice in Andes Melted in 25 Years

[RollingThunder]

Notice the "Warming" in the 1800's per Old Rocks?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL......SUCH a retard!!!

Sure, CrazyFruitcake, we all notice a small spike of warming around about 1879. Then back to normal and declining another 0.2.°C over the next 30 years.

Are you too blinded by your brainwashing and gross retardation that you can't see the long term trend of much greater warming starting around 1910?

 

[RollingThunder]

Here's another recent study on the melting of the glaciers in the Andes.

Andean glaciers melting at "unprecedented" rates: study
Reuters
Jan 24, 2013
(excerpts)
Climate change has shrunk Andean glaciers between 30 and 50 percent since the 1970s and could melt many of them away altogether in coming years, according to a study published on Tuesday in the journal The Cryosphere. Andean glaciers, a vital source of fresh water for tens of millions of South Americans, are retreating at their fastest rates in more than 300 years, according to the most comprehensive review of Andean ice loss so far. The study included data on about half of all Andean glaciers in South America, and blamed the ice loss on an average temperature spike of 0.7 degree Celsius (1.26 degrees Fahrenheit) over the past 70 years.

"Glacier retreat in the tropical Andes over the last three decades is unprecedented", said Antoine Rabatel, the lead author of the study and a scientist with the Laboratory for Glaciology and Environmental Geophysics in Grenoble, France. The researchers also warned that future warming could totally wipe out the smaller glaciers found at lower altitudes that store and release fresh water for downstream communities. "This is a serious concern because a large proportion of the population lives in arid regions to the west of the Andes", said Rabatel. The Chacaltaya glacier in the Bolivian Andes, once a ski resort, has already disappeared completely.

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[gslack]

Can we see a chart of how much Al Gore made from this fiasco, from the time his movie was released until now?

I'd like to see that one please..

 

[RollingThunder]

Can we see a chart of how much Al Gore made from this fiasco, from the time his movie was released until now?

I'd like to see that one please..

LOLOLOLOLOL....still obsessing over Vice President Gore????....as if he has anything to do with the scientific evidence, other than accurately reporting it to the public....LOLOLOLOL.....you are a very confused and clueless little retard, slackjawed.

 

[gslack]

Can we see a chart of how much Al Gore made from this fiasco, from the time his movie was released until now?

I'd like to see that one please..

LOLOLOLOLOL....still obsessing over Vice President Gore????....as if he has anything to do with the scientific evidence, other than accurately reporting it to the public....LOLOLOLOL.....you are a very confused and clueless little retard, slackjawed.

No chart, doesn't count... Sorry need a chart...

 

[depotoo]

Can we see a chart of how much Al Gore made from this fiasco, from the time his movie was released until now?

I'd like to see that one please..

LOLOLOLOLOL....still obsessing over Vice President Gore????....as if he has anything to do with the scientific evidence, other than accurately reporting it to the public....LOLOLOLOL.....you are a very confused and clueless little retard, slackjawed.

No chart, doesn't count... Sorry need a chart...

here ya go, something they will definitely downplay.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en...d-become-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html
Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

 

[RollingThunder]

Back on the topic of the melting of the world's ice due to AGW, here's some new research on the accelerating loss of ice mass in Antarctica.

Antarctic ice melting at record rate, study shows
The Guardian
15 April 2013
(excerpts)
Summer ice is melting at a faster rate in the Antarctic peninsula than at any time in the last 1,000 years, new research has shown. The evidence comes from a 364-metre ice core containing a record of freezing and melting over the previous millennium. Layers of ice in the core, drilled from James Ross Island near the northern tip of the peninsula, indicate periods when summer snow on the ice cap thawed and then refroze. By measuring the thickness of these layers, scientists were able to match the history of melting with changes in temperature.

Lead researcher Dr Nerilie Abram, from the Australian National University and British Antarctic Survey (BAS), said: "Summer melting at the ice core site today is now at a level that is higher than at any other time over the last 1,000 years. And while temperatures at this site increased gradually in phases over many hundreds of years, most of the intensification of melting has happened since the mid-20th century." Levels of ice melt on the Antarctic peninsula were especially sensitive to rising temperature during the last century, he said. "What that means is that the Antarctic peninsula has warmed to a level where even small increases in temperature can now lead to a big increase in summer melt," Abram added. Dr Robert Mulvaney, from the British Antarctic Survey, who led the ice core drilling expedition in 2008 and co-authored a paper on the findings published on Sunday in the journal Nature Geoscience. He said: "Having a record of previous melt intensity for the Peninsula is particularly important because of the glacier retreat and ice shelf loss we are now seeing in the area. Summer ice melt is a key process that is thought to have weakened ice shelves along the Antarctic peninsula leading to a succession of dramatic collapses, as well as speeding up glacier ice loss across the region over the last 50 years." The ice core record suggested a link between accelerated melting and man-made global warming.

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

 

[westwall]

Back on the topic of the melting of the world's ice due to AGW, here's some new research on the accelerating loss of ice mass in Antarctica.

Antarctic ice melting at record rate, study shows
The Guardian
15 April 2013
(excerpts)
Summer ice is melting at a faster rate in the Antarctic peninsula than at any time in the last 1,000 years, new research has shown. The evidence comes from a 364-metre ice core containing a record of freezing and melting over the previous millennium. Layers of ice in the core, drilled from James Ross Island near the northern tip of the peninsula, indicate periods when summer snow on the ice cap thawed and then refroze. By measuring the thickness of these layers, scientists were able to match the history of melting with changes in temperature.

Lead researcher Dr Nerilie Abram, from the Australian National University and British Antarctic Survey (BAS), said: "Summer melting at the ice core site today is now at a level that is higher than at any other time over the last 1,000 years. And while temperatures at this site increased gradually in phases over many hundreds of years, most of the intensification of melting has happened since the mid-20th century." Levels of ice melt on the Antarctic peninsula were especially sensitive to rising temperature during the last century, he said. "What that means is that the Antarctic peninsula has warmed to a level where even small increases in temperature can now lead to a big increase in summer melt," Abram added. Dr Robert Mulvaney, from the British Antarctic Survey, who led the ice core drilling expedition in 2008 and co-authored a paper on the findings published on Sunday in the journal Nature Geoscience. He said: "Having a record of previous melt intensity for the Peninsula is particularly important because of the glacier retreat and ice shelf loss we are now seeing in the area. Summer ice melt is a key process that is thought to have weakened ice shelves along the Antarctic peninsula leading to a succession of dramatic collapses, as well as speeding up glacier ice loss across the region over the last 50 years." The ice core record suggested a link between accelerated melting and man-made global warming.

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

I notice how you forgot to leave this part of the story.....OOOOOOPPPS!



A separate US study, published in the same journal, shows that thinning ice from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet Divide cannot confidently be blamed on greenhouse gas emissions.

An ice core record from this site indicates a strong influence from unusual conditions in the tropical Pacific during the 1990s.

In that decade, an El Niño event – a cyclical system of winds and ocean currents that can affect the world's weather – caused rapid thinning of glaciers in the west Antarctic.

The spike in temperature was little different from others that occurred in the 1830s and 1940s, which also saw prominent El Niño events.

"If we could look back at this region of Antarctica in the 1940s and 1830s we would find that the regional climate would look a lot like it does today, and I think we also would find the glaciers retreating much as they are today," said lead author Prof Eric Steig, from the University of Washington.

 

[SSDD]

I notice how you forgot to leave this part of the story.....OOOOOOPPPS![/B]



A separate US study, published in the same journal, shows that thinning ice from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet Divide cannot confidently be blamed on greenhouse gas emissions.

An ice core record from this site indicates a strong influence from unusual conditions in the tropical Pacific during the 1990s.

In that decade, an El Niño event – a cyclical system of winds and ocean currents that can affect the world's weather – caused rapid thinning of glaciers in the west Antarctic.

The spike in temperature was little different from others that occurred in the 1830s and 1940s, which also saw prominent El Niño events.

"If we could look back at this region of Antarctica in the 1940s and 1830s we would find that the regional climate would look a lot like it does today, and I think we also would find the glaciers retreating much as they are today," said lead author Prof Eric Steig, from the University of Washington.

Typical warmer...if the data doesn't match the predetermined outcome...ignore it...delete it...or turn it upside down so that it does.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Global climate warming change, its demonstrated in every single weather event

Every single one

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[CrusaderFrank]

The cherry blossom were about 3 weeks later this year...later...later...because its been cooler this spring... because of climate global change warming

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[RollingThunder]

Here's some more recent research on the accelerating loss of ice at the Earth's poles due to anthropogenic global warming.

Ice Sheet Loss at Both Poles Increasing, Major Study Finds
NASA
Nov. 29, 2012
(GOVERNMENT PUBLICATION - not under copyright - free to reproduce)
(excerpts)

WASHINGTON -- An international team of experts supported by NASA and the European Space Agency (ESA) has combined data from multiple satellites and aircraft to produce the most comprehensive and accurate assessment to date of ice sheet losses in Greenland and Antarctica and their contributions to sea level rise. In a landmark study published Thursday in the journal Science, 47 researchers from 26 laboratories report the combined rate of melting for the ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica has increased during the last 20 years. Together, these ice sheets are losing more than three times as much ice each year (equivalent to sea level rise of 0.04 inches or 0.95 millimeters) as they were in the 1990s (equivalent to 0.01 inches or 0.27 millimeters). About two-thirds of the loss is coming from Greenland, with the rest from Antarctica. This rate of ice sheet losses falls within the range reported in 2007 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The spread of estimates in the 2007 IPCC report was so broad, however, it was not clear whether Antarctica was growing or shrinking. The new estimates, which are more than twice as accurate because of the inclusion of more satellite data, confirm both Antarctica and Greenland are losing ice.

The study was produced by an international collaboration -- the Ice Sheet Mass Balance Inter-comparison Exercise (IMBIE) -- that combined observations from 10 satellite missions to develop the first consistent measurement of polar ice sheet changes. The researchers reconciled differences among dozens of earlier ice sheet studies by carefully matching observation periods and survey areas. They also combined measurements collected by different types of satellite sensors, such as ESA's radar missions, NASA's Ice, Cloud and land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) and the NASA/German Aerospace Center's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE). "What is unique about this effort is that it brought together the key scientists and all of the different methods to estimate ice loss," said Tom Wagner, NASA's cryosphere program manager in Washington. "It's a major challenge they undertook, involving cutting-edge, difficult research to produce the most rigorous and detailed estimates of ice loss from Greenland and Antarctica to date. The results of this study will be invaluable in informing the IPCC as it completes the writing of its Fifth Assessment Report over the next year." The study found variations in the pace of ice sheet change in Antarctica and Greenland. "Both ice sheets appear to be losing more ice now than 20 years ago, but the pace of ice loss from Greenland is extraordinary, with nearly a five-fold increase since the mid-1990s," Ivins said. "In contrast, the overall loss of ice in Antarctica has remained fairly constant with the data suggesting a 50-percent increase in Antarctic ice loss during the last decade."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Here's some more recent research on the accelerating loss of ice at the Earth's poles due to anthropogenic global warming.

Ice Sheet Loss at Both Poles Increasing, Major Study Finds
NASA
Nov. 29, 2012
(GOVERNMENT PUBLICATION - not under copyright - free to reproduce)
(excerpts)

WASHINGTON -- An international team of experts supported by NASA and the European Space Agency (ESA) has combined data from multiple satellites and aircraft to produce the most comprehensive and accurate assessment to date of ice sheet losses in Greenland and Antarctica and their contributions to sea level rise. In a landmark study published Thursday in the journal Science, 47 researchers from 26 laboratories report the combined rate of melting for the ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica has increased during the last 20 years. Together, these ice sheets are losing more than three times as much ice each year (equivalent to sea level rise of 0.04 inches or 0.95 millimeters) as they were in the 1990s (equivalent to 0.01 inches or 0.27 millimeters). About two-thirds of the loss is coming from Greenland, with the rest from Antarctica. This rate of ice sheet losses falls within the range reported in 2007 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The spread of estimates in the 2007 IPCC report was so broad, however, it was not clear whether Antarctica was growing or shrinking. The new estimates, which are more than twice as accurate because of the inclusion of more satellite data, confirm both Antarctica and Greenland are losing ice.

The study was produced by an international collaboration -- the Ice Sheet Mass Balance Inter-comparison Exercise (IMBIE) -- that combined observations from 10 satellite missions to develop the first consistent measurement of polar ice sheet changes. The researchers reconciled differences among dozens of earlier ice sheet studies by carefully matching observation periods and survey areas. They also combined measurements collected by different types of satellite sensors, such as ESA's radar missions, NASA's Ice, Cloud and land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) and the NASA/German Aerospace Center's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE). "What is unique about this effort is that it brought together the key scientists and all of the different methods to estimate ice loss," said Tom Wagner, NASA's cryosphere program manager in Washington. "It's a major challenge they undertook, involving cutting-edge, difficult research to produce the most rigorous and detailed estimates of ice loss from Greenland and Antarctica to date. The results of this study will be invaluable in informing the IPCC as it completes the writing of its Fifth Assessment Report over the next year." The study found variations in the pace of ice sheet change in Antarctica and Greenland. "Both ice sheets appear to be losing more ice now than 20 years ago, but the pace of ice loss from Greenland is extraordinary, with nearly a five-fold increase since the mid-1990s," Ivins said. "In contrast, the overall loss of ice in Antarctica has remained fairly constant with the data suggesting a 50-percent increase in Antarctic ice loss during the last decade."

Here's some more recent research on the accelerating loss of ice at the Earth's poles due to anthropogenic global warming.

I saw lots of words in your post, none of them proof of anything anthropogenic.

 

[westwall]

Here's some more recent research on the accelerating loss of ice at the Earth's poles due to anthropogenic global warming.

Ice Sheet Loss at Both Poles Increasing, Major Study Finds
NASA
Nov. 29, 2012
(GOVERNMENT PUBLICATION - not under copyright - free to reproduce)
(excerpts)

WASHINGTON -- An international team of experts supported by NASA and the European Space Agency (ESA) has combined data from multiple satellites and aircraft to produce the most comprehensive and accurate assessment to date of ice sheet losses in Greenland and Antarctica and their contributions to sea level rise. In a landmark study published Thursday in the journal Science, 47 researchers from 26 laboratories report the combined rate of melting for the ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica has increased during the last 20 years. Together, these ice sheets are losing more than three times as much ice each year (equivalent to sea level rise of 0.04 inches or 0.95 millimeters) as they were in the 1990s (equivalent to 0.01 inches or 0.27 millimeters). About two-thirds of the loss is coming from Greenland, with the rest from Antarctica. This rate of ice sheet losses falls within the range reported in 2007 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The spread of estimates in the 2007 IPCC report was so broad, however, it was not clear whether Antarctica was growing or shrinking. The new estimates, which are more than twice as accurate because of the inclusion of more satellite data, confirm both Antarctica and Greenland are losing ice.

The study was produced by an international collaboration -- the Ice Sheet Mass Balance Inter-comparison Exercise (IMBIE) -- that combined observations from 10 satellite missions to develop the first consistent measurement of polar ice sheet changes. The researchers reconciled differences among dozens of earlier ice sheet studies by carefully matching observation periods and survey areas. They also combined measurements collected by different types of satellite sensors, such as ESA's radar missions, NASA's Ice, Cloud and land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) and the NASA/German Aerospace Center's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE). "What is unique about this effort is that it brought together the key scientists and all of the different methods to estimate ice loss," said Tom Wagner, NASA's cryosphere program manager in Washington. "It's a major challenge they undertook, involving cutting-edge, difficult research to produce the most rigorous and detailed estimates of ice loss from Greenland and Antarctica to date. The results of this study will be invaluable in informing the IPCC as it completes the writing of its Fifth Assessment Report over the next year." The study found variations in the pace of ice sheet change in Antarctica and Greenland. "Both ice sheets appear to be losing more ice now than 20 years ago, but the pace of ice loss from Greenland is extraordinary, with nearly a five-fold increase since the mid-1990s," Ivins said. "In contrast, the overall loss of ice in Antarctica has remained fairly constant with the data suggesting a 50-percent increase in Antarctic ice loss during the last decade."

Funny how it totally ignores the fact that the Antarctic has been ABOVE the normal ice level for almost two years now......And that's the ice level THEY say is "normal".

 

[RollingThunder]

Here's some more recent research on the accelerating loss of ice at the Earth's poles due to anthropogenic global warming.

Ice Sheet Loss at Both Poles Increasing, Major Study Finds
NASA

In a landmark study published Thursday in the journal Science, 47 researchers from 26 laboratories report the combined rate of melting for the ice sheets covering Greenland and Antarctica has increased during the last 20 years. ....a 50-percent increase in Antarctic ice loss during the last decade."

Funny how it totally ignores the fact that the Antarctic has been ABOVE the normal ice level for almost two years now......And that's the ice level THEY say is "normal".

No matter how many times it has been explained to you, Walleyed, it is apparent that you are way too retarded to understand the difference between the miles thick ice sheets that cover the continent of Antarctica, which contain over 99% of the ice in the south polar region, and the thin fringe of relatively unimportant seasonal sea ice that grows and declines annually around portions of the Antarctic coastline. The continent of Antarctica is losing ice mass and that is a scientifically verified fact. The sea ice's maximum extent has increased a bit in recent years for reasons that have to do with global warming but the sea ice has nothing to do with the measured loss of ice mass from the continent of Antarctica.

"....a 50-percent increase in Antarctic ice loss during the last decade."

***

Melt may explain Antarctica's sea ice expansion
BBC
1 April 2013
(excerpts)
Climate change is expanding Antarctica's sea ice, according to a scientific study in the journal Nature Geoscience. The paradoxical phenomenon is thought to be caused by relatively cold plumes of fresh water derived from melting beneath the Antarctic ice shelves. This melt water has a relatively low density, so it accumulates in the top layer of the ocean. The cool surface waters then re-freeze more easily during Autumn and Winter. This explains the observed peak in sea ice during these seasons, a team from the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) in De Bilt says in its peer-reviewed paper.

Climate scientists have been intrigued by observations that Antarctic sea ice shows a small but statistically significant expansion of about 1.9% per decade since 1985, while sea ice in the Arctic has been shrinking over past decades. The researchers from the KNMI suggest the "negative feedback" effect outlined in their study is expected to continue into the future. "Sea ice around Antarctica is increasing despite the warming global climate," said the study's lead author Richard Bintanja, from the KNMI. "This is caused by melting of the ice sheets from below," he told the Reuters news agency. But there are other plausible explanations for Antarctic sea-ice expansion. Paul Holland of the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) stuck to his findings last year that a shift in winds linked to climate change was blowing ice away from the coast, allowing exposed water in some areas to freeze and make yet more ice. "The possibility remains that the real increase is the sum of wind-driven and melt water-driven effects, of course. That would be my best guess, with the melt water effect being the smaller of the two," he told the London Science Media Centre.

 

[IanC]

I havent read this thread. has it been mentioned that Thompson concluded that the MWP was warmer by 1C than present times and the LIA was a time of glacier growth, after he analyzed his first SA ice cores?

 

[gslack]

BIG WORDS!!!!!

BIG WORDS!!!!!

BIG WORDS!!!!!

I love typing big, makes me look like I have something important to add!

 

[RollingThunder]

BIG WORDS!!!!!

BIG WORDS!!!!!

BIG WORDS!!!!!

I love typing big, makes me look like I have something important to add!

Awww, you poor slackjawed idiot, nothing can make you look like you have "something important to add". You never do, you worthless retarded troll.

BTW, troll, I almost never personally write my own words in larger typeface but I do quote articles in larger type to make them more readable and I include the headlines. Illiterates like you probably aren't very familiar with newspapers and magazines so you wouldn't know about 'headlines'.