In regard of holding Israel by double standards

[Kondor3]

...So if we came to Illinois and kicked you out of your home, you'd quietly wander off having faced reality, grown up, packed up, and got the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else?

Yep... if there was zero realistic chance of taking it back after 66-67 years... life's too short to spend it in a pointless and never-ending circle-jerk like the Palestinians do.

Can you send me your address, so I can bring some friends over, just to see what would really happen?

Who is "we"?

You and your Muslim buddies?

Are you coming to try to kick me out?

Unlike the Arabs, I won't run, and neither will my own friends.

If you can beat me (and mine), and there is no realistic recourse, we will be obliged to walk away.

But there is a good chance that you-and-yours would be dead, rather, should you try.

What was that old line?

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave but once."

The lesson of the so-called 'Nakba'? (a.k.a. "The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948" ? )

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

( the 66-year-long thousand deaths of the cowards of 1948 who ran away, and the poor bastards who inherited their shame )

===========================================

And none of this rhetoric does anything to negate the very real and practical idea that when you have lost and there is no realistic prospect of regaining lost land, the only sensible recourse is to pack up your family and seek new and happier lives elsewhere.

After 66-67 years, even the thick-skulled Neanderthals in Fatah and Hamas should have realized that, but they keep suckering their Sheeple into doing the same dumb things over and over again. When individual Sheeple wake-up and regain their senses, they pack up and leave, rather than continue to subject their families to that sort of madness.

 

[Phoenall]

Israel holds itself to a different standard.

By Jove, NOW you've got it... the Reconquista continues apace... annexation and consolidation continue at a measured pace... the universe is unfolding as it should.

And there's not one goddamned thing of any consequence and effectiveness that "you" (the so-called 'Palestinians') can do to stop it.

Will "you" continue to participate in this pointless and fast-fading Palestinian circle-jerk or will "you" face reality, grow up, pack up, and get the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can finally press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else, where "you're" actually wanted?

Go away... things have changed... there's really no point in hanging around... the party's over... there is no future for "you" in "your" old stomping grounds... time to move on.

So if we came to Illinois and kicked you out of your home, you'd quietly wander off having faced reality, grown up, packed up, and got the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else?

Only if you are big enough, have enough troops behind you and have an International law giving you ownership. Otherwise stay away if you don't want a bloody nose

 

[Phoenall]

...So if we came to Illinois and kicked you out of your home, you'd quietly wander off having faced reality, grown up, packed up, and got the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else?

Yep... if there was zero realistic chance of taking it back after 66-67 years... life's too short to spend it in a pointless and never-ending circle-jerk like the Palestinians do.

Can you send me your address, so I can bring some friends over, just to see what would really happen?

Right after you post yours on here so I can send the muslims round to have a quiet word with you.

 

[Challenger]

Israel holds itself to a different standard.

By Jove, NOW you've got it... the Reconquista continues apace... annexation and consolidation continue at a measured pace... the universe is unfolding as it should.

And there's not one goddamned thing of any consequence and effectiveness that "you" (the so-called 'Palestinians') can do to stop it.

Will "you" continue to participate in this pointless and fast-fading Palestinian circle-jerk or will "you" face reality, grow up, pack up, and get the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can finally press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else, where "you're" actually wanted?

Go away... things have changed... there's really no point in hanging around... the party's over... there is no future for "you" in "your" old stomping grounds... time to move on.

So if we came to Illinois and kicked you out of your home, you'd quietly wander off having faced reality, grown up, packed up, and got the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else?

Only if you are big enough, have enough troops behind you and have an International law giving you ownership. Otherwise stay away if you don't want a bloody nose

 

[Challenger]

...So if we came to Illinois and kicked you out of your home, you'd quietly wander off having faced reality, grown up, packed up, and got the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else?

Yep... if there was zero realistic chance of taking it back after 66-67 years... life's too short to spend it in a pointless and never-ending circle-jerk like the Palestinians do.

Can you send me your address, so I can bring some friends over, just to see what would really happen?

Right after you post yours on here so I can send the muslims round to have a quiet word with you.

 

[Challenger]

...So if we came to Illinois and kicked you out of your home, you'd quietly wander off having faced reality, grown up, packed up, and got the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else?

Yep... if there was zero realistic chance of taking it back after 66-67 years... life's too short to spend it in a pointless and never-ending circle-jerk like the Palestinians do.

Can you send me your address, so I can bring some friends over, just to see what would really happen?

Who is "we"?

You and your Muslim buddies?

Are you coming to try to kick me out?

Unlike the Arabs, I won't run, and neither will my own friends.

If you can beat me (and mine), and there is no realistic recourse, we will be obliged to walk away.

But there is a good chance that you-and-yours would be dead, rather, should you try.

What was that old line?

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave but once."

The lesson of the so-called 'Nakba'? (a.k.a. "The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948" ? )

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

( the 66-year-long thousand deaths of the cowards of 1948 who ran away, and the poor bastards who inherited their shame )

===========================================

And none of this rhetoric does anything to negate the very real and practical idea that when you have lost and there is no realistic prospect of regaining lost land, the only sensible recourse is to pack up your family and seek new and happier lives elsewhere.

After 66-67 years, even the thick-skulled Neanderthals in Fatah and Hamas should have realized that, but they keep suckering their Sheeple into doing the same dumb things over and over again. When individual Sheeple wake-up and regain their senses, they pack up and leave, rather than continue to subject their families to that sort of madness.

We? Just being rhetorical, but I have several friends of all shapes, sizes and beliefs.

So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children? Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

 

[Kondor3]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

 

[Phoenall]

...So if we came to Illinois and kicked you out of your home, you'd quietly wander off having faced reality, grown up, packed up, and got the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else?

Yep... if there was zero realistic chance of taking it back after 66-67 years... life's too short to spend it in a pointless and never-ending circle-jerk like the Palestinians do.

Can you send me your address, so I can bring some friends over, just to see what would really happen?

Who is "we"?

You and your Muslim buddies?

Are you coming to try to kick me out?

Unlike the Arabs, I won't run, and neither will my own friends.

If you can beat me (and mine), and there is no realistic recourse, we will be obliged to walk away.

But there is a good chance that you-and-yours would be dead, rather, should you try.

What was that old line?

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave but once."

The lesson of the so-called 'Nakba'? (a.k.a. "The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948" ? )

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

( the 66-year-long thousand deaths of the cowards of 1948 who ran away, and the poor bastards who inherited their shame )

===========================================

And none of this rhetoric does anything to negate the very real and practical idea that when you have lost and there is no realistic prospect of regaining lost land, the only sensible recourse is to pack up your family and seek new and happier lives elsewhere.

After 66-67 years, even the thick-skulled Neanderthals in Fatah and Hamas should have realized that, but they keep suckering their Sheeple into doing the same dumb things over and over again. When individual Sheeple wake-up and regain their senses, they pack up and leave, rather than continue to subject their families to that sort of madness.

We? Just being rhetorical, but I have several friends of all shapes, sizes and beliefs.

So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children? Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

What a fantasist you are the Palestinians have modern semi automatics, just that they are cowards when they have to face an armed man one on one

 

[montelatici]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

"On nearly every front and in nearly every battle, the Jewish side had the advantage over the Arabs in terms of planning, organization, operation of equipment and also in the number of trained soldiers who participated in the battle,"

...So if we came to Illinois and kicked you out of your home, you'd quietly wander off having faced reality, grown up, packed up, and got the hell out of Dodge, so that "your" family can press the 'Reset' button and fashion new and safe and prosperous and happy lives for "yourselves" someplace else?

Yep... if there was zero realistic chance of taking it back after 66-67 years... life's too short to spend it in a pointless and never-ending circle-jerk like the Palestinians do.

Can you send me your address, so I can bring some friends over, just to see what would really happen?

Who is "we"?

You and your Muslim buddies?

Are you coming to try to kick me out?

Unlike the Arabs, I won't run, and neither will my own friends.

If you can beat me (and mine), and there is no realistic recourse, we will be obliged to walk away.

But there is a good chance that you-and-yours would be dead, rather, should you try.

What was that old line?

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave but once."

The lesson of the so-called 'Nakba'? (a.k.a. "The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948" ? )

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

( the 66-year-long thousand deaths of the cowards of 1948 who ran away, and the poor bastards who inherited their shame )

===========================================

And none of this rhetoric does anything to negate the very real and practical idea that when you have lost and there is no realistic prospect of regaining lost land, the only sensible recourse is to pack up your family and seek new and happier lives elsewhere.

After 66-67 years, even the thick-skulled Neanderthals in Fatah and Hamas should have realized that, but they keep suckering their Sheeple into doing the same dumb things over and over again. When individual Sheeple wake-up and regain their senses, they pack up and leave, rather than continue to subject their families to that sort of madness.

We? Just being rhetorical, but I have several friends of all shapes, sizes and beliefs.

So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children? Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

What a fantasist you are the Palestinians have modern semi automatics, just that they are cowards when they have to face an armed man one on one

The F16s kill the Palestinians before they can face the Jews man to man.

 

[montelatici]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

"On nearly every front and in nearly every battle, the Jewish side had the advantage over the Arabs in terms of planning, organization, operation of equipment and also in the number of trained soldiers who participated in the battle,"

WashingtonPost.com The Middle East Report

 

[Challenger]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

See posts #169 and #170. The old worn out lie of "poor defenceless Zionist colonists being miraculously saved from the evil Arabs in 1948" has been long debunked. Even Zionist historians have been forced to re-write history to take into account all the information released in the 1980's. It's one reason much of the 1967 archive has been witheld from the public, on "security" grounds. The Arab armies had little chance in 1948 and the Palestinians none at all, against the Zionist steamroller.

 

[Phoenall]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

"On nearly every front and in nearly every battle, the Jewish side had the advantage over the Arabs in terms of planning, organization, operation of equipment and also in the number of trained soldiers who participated in the battle,"

Yep... if there was zero realistic chance of taking it back after 66-67 years... life's too short to spend it in a pointless and never-ending circle-jerk like the Palestinians do.

Can you send me your address, so I can bring some friends over, just to see what would really happen?

Who is "we"?

You and your Muslim buddies?

Are you coming to try to kick me out?

Unlike the Arabs, I won't run, and neither will my own friends.

If you can beat me (and mine), and there is no realistic recourse, we will be obliged to walk away.

But there is a good chance that you-and-yours would be dead, rather, should you try.

What was that old line?

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave but once."

The lesson of the so-called 'Nakba'? (a.k.a. "The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948" ? )

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

( the 66-year-long thousand deaths of the cowards of 1948 who ran away, and the poor bastards who inherited their shame )

===========================================

And none of this rhetoric does anything to negate the very real and practical idea that when you have lost and there is no realistic prospect of regaining lost land, the only sensible recourse is to pack up your family and seek new and happier lives elsewhere.

After 66-67 years, even the thick-skulled Neanderthals in Fatah and Hamas should have realized that, but they keep suckering their Sheeple into doing the same dumb things over and over again. When individual Sheeple wake-up and regain their senses, they pack up and leave, rather than continue to subject their families to that sort of madness.

We? Just being rhetorical, but I have several friends of all shapes, sizes and beliefs.

So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children? Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

What a fantasist you are the Palestinians have modern semi automatics, just that they are cowards when they have to face an armed man one on one

The F16s kill the Palestinians before they can face the Jews man to man.

Even you have stated that the Palestinians will not rise up and take on Israel until they have the right numbers to do so. The IDF went in last year and the hamas cowards ran and hid behind women and children. Same thing with cast lead when they kicked the women and children out of the tunnels to be human shields

 

[Kondor3]

..."On nearly every front and in nearly every battle, the Jewish side had the advantage over the Arabs in terms of planning, organization, operation of equipment and also in the number of trained soldiers who participated in the battle," ...

With respect to the 1948 War? Rubbish. The Jews were outnumbered and outgunned.

It is, however, true that the Jews were far better organizers and far better educated and far better stragegists and tacticions and were more courageous than their Arab counterparts.

This is how one side WINS a war and the other side LOSES.

===========================================

An ad in the Jerusalem Post, November, 1949:

"FOR SALE: 50,000 Arab rifles.

Never fired, and only dropped once.

Inquire after 2:00 pm at the King David Hotel, lobby, front desk.

Ask for Moshe."

=============================================

...The F16s kill the Palestinians before they can face the Jews man to man.

Every time that the Arabs have taken-on the Israelis in ground combat they've had their asses kicked.

The single exception to this was the last time that the IDF went sauntering into southern Lebanon and ran into unexpectedly well-trained Hezbollah units.

But the win-to-loss ratio is staggeringly high in favor of Israel, with respect too ground combat operations.

And, when it comes to F16s...

That, too, is how they win...

Perhaps you should get some of your own...

Or a reasonable facsimile thereof...

If you can...

But you won't...

Because nobody will sell them to you...

Nobody really believes any longer in the fairy tale of a Palestinian State...

All recent lip-service to the contrary notwithstanding...

I'm sure that a number of countries recognized Biafra, as well..

For all the good that did them...

 

[montelatici]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

"On nearly every front and in nearly every battle, the Jewish side had the advantage over the Arabs in terms of planning, organization, operation of equipment and also in the number of trained soldiers who participated in the battle,"

Can you send me your address, so I can bring some friends over, just to see what would really happen?

Who is "we"?

You and your Muslim buddies?

Are you coming to try to kick me out?

Unlike the Arabs, I won't run, and neither will my own friends.

If you can beat me (and mine), and there is no realistic recourse, we will be obliged to walk away.

But there is a good chance that you-and-yours would be dead, rather, should you try.

What was that old line?

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave but once."

The lesson of the so-called 'Nakba'? (a.k.a. "The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948" ? )

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

( the 66-year-long thousand deaths of the cowards of 1948 who ran away, and the poor bastards who inherited their shame )

===========================================

And none of this rhetoric does anything to negate the very real and practical idea that when you have lost and there is no realistic prospect of regaining lost land, the only sensible recourse is to pack up your family and seek new and happier lives elsewhere.

After 66-67 years, even the thick-skulled Neanderthals in Fatah and Hamas should have realized that, but they keep suckering their Sheeple into doing the same dumb things over and over again. When individual Sheeple wake-up and regain their senses, they pack up and leave, rather than continue to subject their families to that sort of madness.

We? Just being rhetorical, but I have several friends of all shapes, sizes and beliefs.

So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children? Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

What a fantasist you are the Palestinians have modern semi automatics, just that they are cowards when they have to face an armed man one on one

The F16s kill the Palestinians before they can face the Jews man to man.

Even you have stated that the Palestinians will not rise up and take on Israel until they have the right numbers to do so. The IDF went in last year and the hamas cowards ran and hid behind women and children. Same thing with cast lead when they kicked the women and children out of the tunnels to be human shields

The usual Zionist propaganda spewed by Phoeny without any backup.

Fact:

"Israel-Gaza conflict: The myth of Hamas’s human shields

Israel-Gaza conflict The myth of Hamas s human shields - Middle East - World - The Independent

 

[Phoenall]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

"On nearly every front and in nearly every battle, the Jewish side had the advantage over the Arabs in terms of planning, organization, operation of equipment and also in the number of trained soldiers who participated in the battle,"

WashingtonPost.com The Middle East Report

AND what point are you making apart from the Palestinians are stupid and have not realised that an excess of dead bodies do not amount to having won the war,

 

[Kondor3]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

See posts #169 and #170. The old worn out lie of "poor defenceless Zionist colonists being miraculously saved from the evil Arabs in 1948" has been long debunked. Even Zionist historians have been forced to re-write history to take into account all the information released in the 1980's. It's one reason much of the 1967 archive has been witheld from the public, on "security" grounds. The Arab armies had little chance in 1948 and the Palestinians none at all, against the Zionist steamroller.

All I see here are your opinions on the subject, Challenger. The Arabs got their asses kicked because - even though they outnumbered the Jews and even though they outgunned the Jews - they could not organize as well as the Jews and they could not strategize or perform on the tactical level as well as the Jews and because the Jews were better imaginers and visioners and improvisers, and because the Arabs were not facing an enemy sworn to drive them into the Mediterranean and because the Arabs had some else to go and to fall back on, if they lost. The Jews did not. That made them ten times tougher than their Arab adversaries, and the Arabs didn't understand that until it was too late.

The truth of the matter is that your beloved Arabs got their asses kicked - time and again - and all the excuse-making in the world can't cover that up, nor mask the stench of cowardice, even at a distance of several thousand miles and more than six decades.

Sorry.

 

[montelatici]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

See posts #169 and #170. The old worn out lie of "poor defenceless Zionist colonists being miraculously saved from the evil Arabs in 1948" has been long debunked. Even Zionist historians have been forced to re-write history to take into account all the information released in the 1980's. It's one reason much of the 1967 archive has been witheld from the public, on "security" grounds. The Arab armies had little chance in 1948 and the Palestinians none at all, against the Zionist steamroller.

All I see here are your opinions on the subject, Challenger. The Arabs got their asses kicked because - even though they outnumbered the Jews and even though they outgunned the Jews - they could not organize as well as the Jews and they could not strategize or perform on the tactical level as well as the Jews and because the Jews were better imaginers and visioners and improvisers, and because the Arabs were not facing an enemy sworn to drive them into the Mediterranean and because the Arabs had some else to go and to fall back on, if they lost. The Jews did not. That made them ten times tougher than their Arab adversaries, and the Arabs didn't understand that until it was too late.

The truth of the matter is that your beloved Arabs got their asses kicked - time and again - and all the excuse-making in the world can't cover that up, nor mask the stench of cowardice, even at a distance of several thousand miles and more than six decades.

Sorry.

"On nearly every front and in nearly every battle, the Jewish side had the advantage over the Arabs in terms of planning, organization, operation of equipment and also in the number of trained soldiers who participated in the battle,"

WashingtonPost.com The Middle East Report

 

[Kondor3]

"On nearly every front and in nearly every battle, the Jewish side had the advantage over the Arabs in terms of planning, organization, operation of equipment and also in the number of trained soldiers who participated in the battle," WashingtonPost.com The Middle East Report

That's nice... a touchy-feely op-ed piece from a newspaper in 1999... yeppers... truly decisive... not.

 

[Phoenall]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

See posts #169 and #170. The old worn out lie of "poor defenceless Zionist colonists being miraculously saved from the evil Arabs in 1948" has been long debunked. Even Zionist historians have been forced to re-write history to take into account all the information released in the 1980's. It's one reason much of the 1967 archive has been witheld from the public, on "security" grounds. The Arab armies had little chance in 1948 and the Palestinians none at all, against the Zionist steamroller.

BULLSHIT LIES again as in 1947 when the war began Israel had very few modern firearms, it was only when Czechoslovakia agreed to sell them arms that they ended up in a superior position. By this time the arab armies where showing signs on being disorganised and not trusting each other. So they became fragmented and non cohesive with each other and different armies did different things allowing Israeli forces to push them back.

 

[Phoenall]

...So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children?...

But that is not what happened. Are you serious going to try to tell us that the Arabs were outnumbered and out-gunned by the Jews in 1948 during the War of Independence, once the Brits had left? Really? You can always try.

...Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

Yep... but it's a matter of where you are when you press that 'Reset' button... and Rump Palestine is not that "where".

"On nearly every front and in nearly every battle, the Jewish side had the advantage over the Arabs in terms of planning, organization, operation of equipment and also in the number of trained soldiers who participated in the battle,"

Who is "we"?

You and your Muslim buddies?

Are you coming to try to kick me out?

Unlike the Arabs, I won't run, and neither will my own friends.

If you can beat me (and mine), and there is no realistic recourse, we will be obliged to walk away.

But there is a good chance that you-and-yours would be dead, rather, should you try.

What was that old line?

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave but once."

The lesson of the so-called 'Nakba'? (a.k.a. "The Great Arab Skeddadle of 1948" ? )

"He who pisses his pants, then runs away, lives to regret it, for many a day."

( the 66-year-long thousand deaths of the cowards of 1948 who ran away, and the poor bastards who inherited their shame )

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And none of this rhetoric does anything to negate the very real and practical idea that when you have lost and there is no realistic prospect of regaining lost land, the only sensible recourse is to pack up your family and seek new and happier lives elsewhere.

After 66-67 years, even the thick-skulled Neanderthals in Fatah and Hamas should have realized that, but they keep suckering their Sheeple into doing the same dumb things over and over again. When individual Sheeple wake-up and regain their senses, they pack up and leave, rather than continue to subject their families to that sort of madness.

We? Just being rhetorical, but I have several friends of all shapes, sizes and beliefs.

So if I turned up in an IFV and all you had was a 1776 vintage musket, you'd "bravely" stand and fight to the death? (dying only once) with your friends or would you take the more sensible course and run away to save your life and the lives of your wives and children? Remember, "where there's life, there's hope". and you can always press the "re-set" button.

What a fantasist you are the Palestinians have modern semi automatics, just that they are cowards when they have to face an armed man one on one

The F16s kill the Palestinians before they can face the Jews man to man.

Even you have stated that the Palestinians will not rise up and take on Israel until they have the right numbers to do so. The IDF went in last year and the hamas cowards ran and hid behind women and children. Same thing with cast lead when they kicked the women and children out of the tunnels to be human shields

The usual Zionist propaganda spewed by Phoeny without any backup.

Fact:

"Israel-Gaza conflict: The myth of Hamas’s human shields

Israel-Gaza conflict The myth of Hamas s human shields - Middle East - World - The Independent

Want to explain these, and there are many thousand such images