In regard of holding Israel by double standards

[Phoenall]

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Natives.

Natives of the Ottoman empire, only the Jews were called Palestinians.............

 

[Phoenall]

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Unbiased and provable link to the 89% of Palestinian population being muslim and 10% being Christian.

unbiased and provable link that your not a figment of my imagination.

Are you often delusional ?

 

[Challenger]

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Unbiased and provable link to the 89% of Palestinian population being muslim and 10% being Christian.

unbiased and provable link that your not a figment of my imagination.

Are you often delusional ?

 

[Challenger]

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Natives.

Natives of the Ottoman empire, only the Jews were called Palestinians.............

 

[Phoenall]

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Unbiased and provable link to the 89% of Palestinian population being muslim and 10% being Christian.

unbiased and provable link that your not a figment of my imagination.

Are you often delusional ?

MELTDOWN ALERT

 

[Phoenall]

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Natives.

Natives of the Ottoman empire, only the Jews were called Palestinians.............

MELTDOWN ALERT

 

[Slyhunter]

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Unbiased and provable link to the 89% of Palestinian population being muslim and 10% being Christian.

unbiased and provable link that your not a figment of my imagination.

Are you often delusional ?

My point went right over your head eh.

 

[mrjingles]

Jordan and Israel reached the agreement over the WB, the Palestinians are simply those didn't want to live in Jordan and didn't want to live in Israel - so they were trying to get rid of Israel, it is not lawful to claim for conducting a state over a current sovereign country, sorry.

Wrong! The WB was seized during the '67 war. UN resolution 242 has confirmed this.

It is naturally a state responsibility, Jerusalem ENTIRELY is a part of the state of Israel and so it will remain to the end of days, Israel CAN and SHOULD help working for the wealth and prosperity of its citizens, that applies to the WB and EJ as well since they are not part of illegal activities and all done with full agreement of both parties, if for instance Israel was "settling" in Jordan that would've been illegal, but the WB is part of the state of Israel and most definitely not part of the state of Palestine - but an Israeli territory.

Wrong again! There isn't a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Not one. And there are over 100 UN resolutions saying you're full of shit.

The world wouldn't let Hitler keep Poland and it won't let you keep the occupied territories. After 50 years of no recognition, one would think you'd catch the clue.

Let's get down to the point, aside from the UNRWA confession I assume you'd have some piece of clumsy article to wave with so let's see it, and just to let you know that once a valid military target is entering a civil infrastructure it does make it instantly a warzone and a valid military target and let's not forget they didn't just went there to grab a snack and leave but for military needs such as torturing Palestinians - no wait - Mossad agents like David Blat.

The "clumsy article" is the one you're using to try and prove your point. Weapons were found at a vacant school. That doesn't automatically make the entire area a free fire zone.

That is a little exaggerated but since it's OUR soldiers lives sacrificed I beg your pardon but I'd rather having entire Gaza flattened instead of having my family and friends in danger which is why we are at war if you're not informed and yes their lives worth the lives of Hamas supporting Gaza so get over it, I'm pretty sure tactics and strategies is not your brightest side so let me educate you on the purpose of protecting your troops, this is the goal, and Israel should've taken over entire Gaza not just the north eastern side but that is a different subject.

It's not exaggerated. You dropped bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. Everyone in that neighborhood, was not a danger. And of the ones that were, it is because you illegally invaded their land.

I'm always standing for my words, sorry Bill I think you are mistaken me for the typical clowns you hang out with.

And you're words are irresponsible, if you think they supersede international law.

IDF Detains Hamas Members on Fishing Boat That Violated Restrictions Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
You tell me, or perhaps you can explain which particularly sick society we are hoping an entire nation would be wiped out?

Yours is a sick society. Hamas members on a fishing boat, is not illegal. A Gazan fishing boat leaving it's territorial waters into international waters, is not illegal. Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and has no right to stop any boat. Nor does it have any right limiting Gazan fishing.

Sure, when and where. Feel free to summarize your whole accusations in one thread.

They're not accusations. I've proven everything I've said.

Hamas is an illegal terrorist organisation so whether these animals are on a fishing boat or ay Alton Towers, its illegal

 

[mrjingles]

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

The Ottoman army would have disagreed with you.

Filastin Risalesi, an official publication of the Ottoman army, used as an officer’s manual for the Palestine region.

Now you've provided a map of Palestine, ple3ase explain why Jordan isn't occupying 'palestinian' land.

 

[mrjingles]

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Arabs but if you were able to ask them they'd have mostly said they were Syrian as most saw Palestine as part of Southern Syria.

 

[Slyhunter]

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

The Ottoman army would have disagreed with you.

Filastin Risalesi, an official publication of the Ottoman army, used as an officer’s manual for the Palestine region.

Now you've provided a map of Palestine, ple3ase explain why Jordan isn't occupying 'palestinian' land.

If Israel was made up of Muslims they wouldn't care about their occupation. So it's simply the fact that they are Jew's that is their real complaint.

 

[Daniyel]

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

The Ottoman army would have disagreed with you.

Filastin Risalesi, an official publication of the Ottoman army, used as an officer’s manual for the Palestine region.

Now you've provided a map of Palestine, ple3ase explain why Jordan isn't occupying 'palestinian' land.

If Israel was made up of Muslims they wouldn't care about their occupation. So it's simply the fact that they are Jew's that is their real complaint.

I Tend to agree with you here, but there was the Black September in Jordan - Muslims fighting Muslims - and if that case doesn't satisfy the point there is also Syria where Assad and his supporters are Muslims (Alwites - google that) fighting other Muslims so regardless of the love Muslims share to Jews (And Palestinians are mostly Sunnies and Shiites) it is something else.

 

[Phoenall]

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Unbiased and provable link to the 89% of Palestinian population being muslim and 10% being Christian.

unbiased and provable link that your not a figment of my imagination.

Are you often delusional ?

My point went right over your head eh.

Seems that mine did not register at all

 

[Challenger]

Jordan and Israel reached the agreement over the WB, the Palestinians are simply those didn't want to live in Jordan and didn't want to live in Israel - so they were trying to get rid of Israel, it is not lawful to claim for conducting a state over a current sovereign country, sorry.

Wrong! The WB was seized during the '67 war. UN resolution 242 has confirmed this.

It is naturally a state responsibility, Jerusalem ENTIRELY is a part of the state of Israel and so it will remain to the end of days, Israel CAN and SHOULD help working for the wealth and prosperity of its citizens, that applies to the WB and EJ as well since they are not part of illegal activities and all done with full agreement of both parties, if for instance Israel was "settling" in Jordan that would've been illegal, but the WB is part of the state of Israel and most definitely not part of the state of Palestine - but an Israeli territory.

Wrong again! There isn't a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Not one. And there are over 100 UN resolutions saying you're full of shit.

The world wouldn't let Hitler keep Poland and it won't let you keep the occupied territories. After 50 years of no recognition, one would think you'd catch the clue.

Let's get down to the point, aside from the UNRWA confession I assume you'd have some piece of clumsy article to wave with so let's see it, and just to let you know that once a valid military target is entering a civil infrastructure it does make it instantly a warzone and a valid military target and let's not forget they didn't just went there to grab a snack and leave but for military needs such as torturing Palestinians - no wait - Mossad agents like David Blat.

The "clumsy article" is the one you're using to try and prove your point. Weapons were found at a vacant school. That doesn't automatically make the entire area a free fire zone.

That is a little exaggerated but since it's OUR soldiers lives sacrificed I beg your pardon but I'd rather having entire Gaza flattened instead of having my family and friends in danger which is why we are at war if you're not informed and yes their lives worth the lives of Hamas supporting Gaza so get over it, I'm pretty sure tactics and strategies is not your brightest side so let me educate you on the purpose of protecting your troops, this is the goal, and Israel should've taken over entire Gaza not just the north eastern side but that is a different subject.

It's not exaggerated. You dropped bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. Everyone in that neighborhood, was not a danger. And of the ones that were, it is because you illegally invaded their land.

I'm always standing for my words, sorry Bill I think you are mistaken me for the typical clowns you hang out with.

And you're words are irresponsible, if you think they supersede international law.

IDF Detains Hamas Members on Fishing Boat That Violated Restrictions Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
You tell me, or perhaps you can explain which particularly sick society we are hoping an entire nation would be wiped out?

Yours is a sick society. Hamas members on a fishing boat, is not illegal. A Gazan fishing boat leaving it's territorial waters into international waters, is not illegal. Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and has no right to stop any boat. Nor does it have any right limiting Gazan fishing.

Sure, when and where. Feel free to summarize your whole accusations in one thread.

They're not accusations. I've proven everything I've said.

Hamas is an illegal terrorist organisation so whether these animals are on a fishing boat or ay Alton Towers, its illegal

HAMAS is considered a terrorist organisation by some western nations for their own political reasons, HAMAS is also the democratically elected government of Palestine, prevented from governing by a coup engineered and organised by the Zionists and their allies and currently under seige in Gaza. They are a legal government until the next Palestinian elections, whenever they will be.

 

[Challenger]

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

The Ottoman army would have disagreed with you.

Filastin Risalesi, an official publication of the Ottoman army, used as an officer’s manual for the Palestine region.

Now you've provided a map of Palestine, ple3ase explain why Jordan isn't occupying 'palestinian' land.

Seriously?!

OK, the Emirate/Kingdom of Jordan didn't exist when this map was drawn.

 

[Challenger]

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Arabs but if you were able to ask them they'd have mostly said they were Syrian as most saw Palestine as part of Southern Syria.

I think you'll find they called themselves Palestinians, or Judeans, or Samaritans or Galilleans, or Greeks, or Syrians and ultimately Ottoman subjects.

 

[Challenger]

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

The Ottoman army would have disagreed with you.

Filastin Risalesi, an official publication of the Ottoman army, used as an officer’s manual for the Palestine region.

Now you've provided a map of Palestine, ple3ase explain why Jordan isn't occupying 'palestinian' land.

If Israel was made up of Muslims they wouldn't care about their occupation. So it's simply the fact that they are Jew's that is their real complaint.

Religion isn't the issue, it's the fact that the Zionists in Israel want to take all their lands and drive them out of their homes like they did in 1948, 1967 and continue to do so today; THAT's why they care about their occupation. If Israel was made up of Muslims, no-one would be trying to drive people out of their homes.

 

[Phoenall]

Jordan and Israel reached the agreement over the WB, the Palestinians are simply those didn't want to live in Jordan and didn't want to live in Israel - so they were trying to get rid of Israel, it is not lawful to claim for conducting a state over a current sovereign country, sorry.

Wrong! The WB was seized during the '67 war. UN resolution 242 has confirmed this.

It is naturally a state responsibility, Jerusalem ENTIRELY is a part of the state of Israel and so it will remain to the end of days, Israel CAN and SHOULD help working for the wealth and prosperity of its citizens, that applies to the WB and EJ as well since they are not part of illegal activities and all done with full agreement of both parties, if for instance Israel was "settling" in Jordan that would've been illegal, but the WB is part of the state of Israel and most definitely not part of the state of Palestine - but an Israeli territory.

Wrong again! There isn't a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Not one. And there are over 100 UN resolutions saying you're full of shit.

The world wouldn't let Hitler keep Poland and it won't let you keep the occupied territories. After 50 years of no recognition, one would think you'd catch the clue.

Let's get down to the point, aside from the UNRWA confession I assume you'd have some piece of clumsy article to wave with so let's see it, and just to let you know that once a valid military target is entering a civil infrastructure it does make it instantly a warzone and a valid military target and let's not forget they didn't just went there to grab a snack and leave but for military needs such as torturing Palestinians - no wait - Mossad agents like David Blat.

The "clumsy article" is the one you're using to try and prove your point. Weapons were found at a vacant school. That doesn't automatically make the entire area a free fire zone.

That is a little exaggerated but since it's OUR soldiers lives sacrificed I beg your pardon but I'd rather having entire Gaza flattened instead of having my family and friends in danger which is why we are at war if you're not informed and yes their lives worth the lives of Hamas supporting Gaza so get over it, I'm pretty sure tactics and strategies is not your brightest side so let me educate you on the purpose of protecting your troops, this is the goal, and Israel should've taken over entire Gaza not just the north eastern side but that is a different subject.

It's not exaggerated. You dropped bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. Everyone in that neighborhood, was not a danger. And of the ones that were, it is because you illegally invaded their land.

I'm always standing for my words, sorry Bill I think you are mistaken me for the typical clowns you hang out with.

And you're words are irresponsible, if you think they supersede international law.

IDF Detains Hamas Members on Fishing Boat That Violated Restrictions Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
You tell me, or perhaps you can explain which particularly sick society we are hoping an entire nation would be wiped out?

Yours is a sick society. Hamas members on a fishing boat, is not illegal. A Gazan fishing boat leaving it's territorial waters into international waters, is not illegal. Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and has no right to stop any boat. Nor does it have any right limiting Gazan fishing.

Sure, when and where. Feel free to summarize your whole accusations in one thread.

They're not accusations. I've proven everything I've said.

Hamas is an illegal terrorist organisation so whether these animals are on a fishing boat or ay Alton Towers, its illegal

HAMAS is considered a terrorist organisation by some western nations for their own political reasons, HAMAS is also the democratically elected government of Palestine, prevented from governing by a coup engineered and organised by the Zionists and their allies and currently under seige in Gaza. They are a legal government until the next Palestinian elections, whenever they will be.

Well while hamas is in power they will not allow a democratic election to take place, so they will never lose power. Unless the people of Palestine rise up and remove the dictators from power and elect a whole new government that will act in the Palestinian peoples best interests

 

[P F Tinmore]

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

The Ottoman army would have disagreed with you.

Filastin Risalesi, an official publication of the Ottoman army, used as an officer’s manual for the Palestine region.

Now you've provided a map of Palestine, ple3ase explain why Jordan isn't occupying 'palestinian' land.

If Israel was made up of Muslims they wouldn't care about their occupation. So it's simply the fact that they are Jew's that is their real complaint.

I Tend to agree with you here, but there was the Black September in Jordan - Muslims fighting Muslims - and if that case doesn't satisfy the point there is also Syria where Assad and his supporters are Muslims (Alwites - google that) fighting other Muslims so regardless of the love Muslims share to Jews (And Palestinians are mostly Sunnies and Shiites) it is something else.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Arabs but if you were able to ask them they'd have mostly said they were Syrian as most saw Palestine as part of Southern Syria.

I think you'll find they called themselves Palestinians, or Judeans, or Samaritans or Galilleans, or Greeks, or Syrians and ultimately Ottoman subjects.

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Jordan and Israel reached the agreement over the WB, the Palestinians are simply those didn't want to live in Jordan and didn't want to live in Israel - so they were trying to get rid of Israel, it is not lawful to claim for conducting a state over a current sovereign country, sorry.

Wrong! The WB was seized during the '67 war. UN resolution 242 has confirmed this.

It is naturally a state responsibility, Jerusalem ENTIRELY is a part of the state of Israel and so it will remain to the end of days, Israel CAN and SHOULD help working for the wealth and prosperity of its citizens, that applies to the WB and EJ as well since they are not part of illegal activities and all done with full agreement of both parties, if for instance Israel was "settling" in Jordan that would've been illegal, but the WB is part of the state of Israel and most definitely not part of the state of Palestine - but an Israeli territory.

Wrong again! There isn't a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Not one. And there are over 100 UN resolutions saying you're full of shit.

The world wouldn't let Hitler keep Poland and it won't let you keep the occupied territories. After 50 years of no recognition, one would think you'd catch the clue.

Let's get down to the point, aside from the UNRWA confession I assume you'd have some piece of clumsy article to wave with so let's see it, and just to let you know that once a valid military target is entering a civil infrastructure it does make it instantly a warzone and a valid military target and let's not forget they didn't just went there to grab a snack and leave but for military needs such as torturing Palestinians - no wait - Mossad agents like David Blat.

The "clumsy article" is the one you're using to try and prove your point. Weapons were found at a vacant school. That doesn't automatically make the entire area a free fire zone.

That is a little exaggerated but since it's OUR soldiers lives sacrificed I beg your pardon but I'd rather having entire Gaza flattened instead of having my family and friends in danger which is why we are at war if you're not informed and yes their lives worth the lives of Hamas supporting Gaza so get over it, I'm pretty sure tactics and strategies is not your brightest side so let me educate you on the purpose of protecting your troops, this is the goal, and Israel should've taken over entire Gaza not just the north eastern side but that is a different subject.

It's not exaggerated. You dropped bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. Everyone in that neighborhood, was not a danger. And of the ones that were, it is because you illegally invaded their land.

I'm always standing for my words, sorry Bill I think you are mistaken me for the typical clowns you hang out with.

And you're words are irresponsible, if you think they supersede international law.

IDF Detains Hamas Members on Fishing Boat That Violated Restrictions Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
You tell me, or perhaps you can explain which particularly sick society we are hoping an entire nation would be wiped out?

Yours is a sick society. Hamas members on a fishing boat, is not illegal. A Gazan fishing boat leaving it's territorial waters into international waters, is not illegal. Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and has no right to stop any boat. Nor does it have any right limiting Gazan fishing.

Sure, when and where. Feel free to summarize your whole accusations in one thread.

They're not accusations. I've proven everything I've said.

Hamas is an illegal terrorist organisation so whether these animals are on a fishing boat or ay Alton Towers, its illegal

HAMAS is considered a terrorist organisation by some western nations for their own political reasons, HAMAS is also the democratically elected government of Palestine, prevented from governing by a coup engineered and organised by the Zionists and their allies and currently under seige in Gaza. They are a legal government until the next Palestinian elections, whenever they will be.

Well while hamas is in power they will not allow a democratic election to take place, so they will never lose power. Unless the people of Palestine rise up and remove the dictators from power and elect a whole new government that will act in the Palestinian peoples best interests

Not so. It is Abbas who is holding up elections.