In regard of holding Israel by double standards

[Phoenall]

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

You obviously didn't understand my post.

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

But it does not mean they cant be killed by the opposition does it, or that the opposition has to reduce the risks to the human shields used. The Palestinians are now seeing that attacking a superior force will result in deaths and destruction on a scale they cant sustain.

 

[Phoenall]

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

You obviously didn't understand my post.

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

What did I say that was propaganda?

That the Palestinians use their children as human shields,

even after the evidence has been produced showing they do. Will you accept the Goldstone report as evidence showing that they are employing children and others as himan shields.

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf



477. The Mission is also aware of the public statement by Mr. Fathi Hammad, a Hamas

member of the Palestinian Legislative Council, on 29 February 2009, which is adduced as

evidence of Hamas’ use of human shields. Mr. Hammad reportedly stated that

… the Palestinian people has developed its [methods] of death seeking. For the Palestinian

people, death became an industry, at which women excel and so do all people on this land:

the elderly excel, the mujahideen excel and the children excel. Accordingly, [Hamas]

created a human shield of women, children, the elderly and the mujahideen, against the

Zionist bombing machine.334

 

[toastman]

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

You obviously didn't understand my post.

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

What did I say that was propaganda?

That the Palestinians use their children as human shields,

What I said is not the definition of human shields. But it is the truth, and once AGAIN you show us that you cannot handle the truth.

 

[Hossfly]

Just something I've stumbled on recently..

Diplomatic drama during the Europe-Israel panel at The Jerusalem Post Diplomatic Conference in Jerusalem on Thursday, moderated by Herb Keinon with The Jerusalem Post | JPost.com's Senior Contributing Editor Caroline B. Glick and Danish Ambassador Jesper Vahr. Thanks to Eli Mandelbaum. taken from Steve Lindh FB

Daniyel
In regard to doubt standards, I just came across this article which was interesting.

Ten Ways Israel Is Treated Differently David Harris

 

[montelatici]

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

You obviously didn't understand my post.

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

What did I say that was propaganda?

That the Palestinians use their children as human shields,

What I said is not the definition of human shields. But it is the truth, and once AGAIN you show us that you cannot handle the truth.

It is the usual Israeli propaganda, designed to demonize a people.

 

[toastman]

You obviously didn't understand my post.

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

What did I say that was propaganda?

That the Palestinians use their children as human shields,

What I said is not the definition of human shields. But it is the truth, and once AGAIN you show us that you cannot handle the truth.

It is the usual Israeli propaganda, designed to demonize a people.

I saw that video before, nothing was exposed. It is well known that Hamas purposely fires from civilian areas, therefore prompting return fire to that area. No need for Israel to demonize Hamas or Palestinians, they demonize themselves with their venomous hatred.

BTW, the U.N has ZERO credibility (like you) when discussing Israel. Their extreme bias and propaganda is evident to anyone who isn't a brainwashed pro Palestinian (like you)

 

[montelatici]

Ok, only the U.S. and Israel have any credibility with respect to Israel. The rest of the world is mistaken. That's your position, and it is plainly a biased position.

 

[toastman]

Ok, only the U.S. and Israel have any credibility with respect to Israel. The rest of the world is mistaken. That's your position, and it is plainly a biased position.

I never said that.

 

[Hossfly]

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

What did I say that was propaganda?

That the Palestinians use their children as human shields,

What I said is not the definition of human shields. But it is the truth, and once AGAIN you show us that you cannot handle the truth.

It is the usual Israeli propaganda, designed to demonize a people.

I saw that video before, nothing was exposed. It is well known that Hamas purposely fires from civilian areas, therefore prompting return fire to that area. No need for Israel to demonize Hamas or Palestinians, they demonize themselves with their venomous hatred.

BTW, the U.N has ZERO credibility (like you) when discussing Israel. Their extreme bias and propaganda is evident to anyone who isn't a brainwashed pro Palestinian (like you)

toastman
The Secretary-General of the UN admits Anti-Israel bias.
Ban Ki-moon Admits United Nations Anti-Israel Bias Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
Ban Ki-moon Admits United Nations Anti-Israel Bias

Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the United Nations. Photo: WEF.

JNS.org – In a rare admission, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said on Friday that there is U.N. bias against Israel.

Speaking to university students at the U.N. Headquarters in Jerusalem, Ban stated that Israel, as a U.N. member, should get the same treatment as other nations. “Unfortunately, because of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Israel has been weighed down by criticism and suffered from bias and sometimes even discrimination,” he said.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with Ban on Friday. The two discussed regional concerns, and Netanyahu raised the issue of U.N.-funded schools in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that promote incitement against Jews and Israel. Netanyahu said that the root of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the Palestinian “refusal to recognize the Jewish state in any boundary.”

Historically, official U.N. statements and resolutions on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict have frequently criticized Israel, rather than taking the approach of Ban’s comments on Friday.

 

[montelatici]

Why should the Palestinians agree to the European colonization of their country?

 

[Phoenall]

You obviously didn't understand my post.

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

What did I say that was propaganda?

That the Palestinians use their children as human shields,

What I said is not the definition of human shields. But it is the truth, and once AGAIN you show us that you cannot handle the truth.

It is the usual Israeli propaganda, designed to demonize a people.

DID YOU LOOK AT THE SOURCE, AND THEN THE DATE

Uploaded on 8 Jan 2009

Over six years ago when this incident happened

 

[Phoenall]

Why should the Palestinians agree to the European colonization of their country?

They didn't they welcomed their fellow Jews with open arms, it was the illegal arab muslim migrants that did not agree with keeping their promises