In regard of holding Israel by double standards

[ForeverYoung436]

I'm sure that some Arabs regard ISIS as being barbarian. King Abdullah said that ISIS is evil.

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

 

[Phoenall]

BULLSHIT even other arab nations see certain arabs as barbarians

Which Arab nations, which "certain Arabs"?

I'm sure that some Arabs regard ISIS as being barbarian. King Abdullah said that ISIS is evil.

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

The topic of this board is Israel and Palestine, and the evidence shows that the arab muslims have a predisposition to violence, terrorism and belligerence. Looking at the evidence of recent years it shows that the majority of arab muslims are extremists by the way they voted in a known terrorist organisation.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT EVIDENCE

 

[Phoenall]

Everyone just figures the Arabs are barbarians anyway, so it's true that they're held to a lower standard than Israel.

You're wrong, only Zionists and their fascist and other "Right-ist" fellow-travellers think Arabs are barbarians, mostly because they're too frightened and bigoted to try to discover otherwise.

BULLSHIT even other arab nations see certain arabs as barbarians

Which Arab nations, which "certain Arabs"?

Start with Egypt, Jordan and Saudi that see the arab muslims of gaza as barbarians. And Saudi see's the arab muslim terrorists of Yemen as barbarians

Unsubstantiated opinion. Cite speeches where the governments of any of these countries have called the people of Gaza, or Yemen, barbarians.

 

[Daniyel]

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It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan and Israel reached the agreement over the WB, the Palestinians are simply those didn't want to live in Jordan and didn't want to live in Israel - so they were trying to get rid of Israel, it is not lawful to claim for conducting a state over a current sovereign country, sorry.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

It is naturally a state responsibility, Jerusalem ENTIRELY is a part of the state of Israel and so it will remain to the end of days, Israel CAN and SHOULD help working for the wealth and prosperity of its citizens, that applies to the WB and EJ as well since they are not part of illegal activities and all done with full agreement of both parties, if for instance Israel was "settling" in Jordan that would've been illegal, but the WB is part of the state of Israel and most definitely not part of the state of Palestine - but an Israeli territory.

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

Let's get down to the point, aside from the UNRWA confession I assume you'd have some piece of clumsy article to wave with so let's see it, and just to let you know that once a valid military target is entering a civil infrastructure it does make it instantly a warzone and a valid military target and let's not forget they didn't just went there to grab a snack and leave but for military needs such as torturing Palestinians - no wait - Mossad agents like David Blat.

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

That is a little exaggerated but since it's OUR soldiers lives sacrificed I beg your pardon but I'd rather having entire Gaza flattened instead of having my family and friends in danger which is why we are at war if you're not informed and yes their lives worth the lives of Hamas supporting Gaza so get over it, I'm pretty sure tactics and strategies is not your brightest side so let me educate you on the purpose of protecting your troops, this is the goal, and Israel should've taken over entire Gaza not just the north eastern side but that is a different subject.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

I'm always standing for my words, sorry Bill I think you are mistaken me for the typical clowns you hang out with.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

IDF Detains Hamas Members on Fishing Boat That Violated Restrictions Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
You tell me, or perhaps you can explain which particularly sick society we are hoping an entire nation would be wiped out?

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

Sure, when and where.
Feel free to summarize your whole accusations in one thread.

 

[Challenger]

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

Profiling and the evidence of history

Link to the profile then?

 

[Challenger]

Which Arab nations, which "certain Arabs"?

I'm sure that some Arabs regard ISIS as being barbarian. King Abdullah said that ISIS is evil.

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

The topic of this board is Israel and Palestine, and the evidence shows that the arab muslims have a predisposition to violence, terrorism and belligerence. Looking at the evidence of recent years it shows that the majority of arab muslims are extremists by the way they voted in a known terrorist organisation.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT EVIDENCE

Unsubstantiated opinion.

 

[Challenger]

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

 

[toastman]

It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

How is throwing rocks at soldiers going to help the 'Palestinians'?

 

[P F Tinmore]

It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

How is throwing rocks at soldiers going to help the 'Palestinians'?

Indeed, the IDF loves rocks. Time, and time, and time again they keep going back for more rocks.

 

[toastman]

It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

How is throwing rocks at soldiers going to help the 'Palestinians'?

Indeed, the IDF loves rocks. Time, and time, and time again they keep going back for more rocks.

And Palestinians love digging holes. They keep digging the hole they are in deeper and deeper.

Palestinians are such whiners and are the only people on earth who whine when they get attacked AFTER attacking soldiers.

"Why did they shoot me with a rubber bullet?? What did I do ?!??!? "

 

[toastman]

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

Very VERY dumb comment. You know that's not right. Islamist scum have created the security problems Israel faces. It's the other way around, the Palestinians have created the hole they are in and continue to dig it deeper and deeper . Quite possible the dumbest people on earth.

BTW, when have the Palestinians negotiated in good faith? That's what I thought.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!


Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

How is throwing rocks at soldiers going to help the 'Palestinians'?

Indeed, the IDF loves rocks. Time, and time, and time again they keep going back for more rocks.

And Palestinians love digging holes. They keep digging the hole they are in deeper and deeper.

Palestinians are such whiners and are the only people on earth who whine when they get attacked AFTER attacking soldiers.

"Why did they shoot me with a rubber bullet?? What did I do ?!??!? "

Israel is the one digging a hole for itself. Every time it does something stupid (regularly) its opposition grows.

Look at the trend. Twenty years ago pro Palestinian rallies drew...like...three people.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[toastman]

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

How is throwing rocks at soldiers going to help the 'Palestinians'?

Indeed, the IDF loves rocks. Time, and time, and time again they keep going back for more rocks.

And Palestinians love digging holes. They keep digging the hole they are in deeper and deeper.

Palestinians are such whiners and are the only people on earth who whine when they get attacked AFTER attacking soldiers.

"Why did they shoot me with a rubber bullet?? What did I do ?!??!? "

Israel is the one digging a hole for itself. Every time it does something stupid (regularly) its opposition grows.

Look at the trend. Twenty years ago pro Palestinian rallies drew...like...three people.

Nah, Israel isn't in a hole. Sure, more support would help them, but it's the Palestinians keep making matters worse from themselves.

Back then, 10-15 years ago, Israelis were getting killed every week, month or so because of suicide bombings and other attacks. But Israel has beefed up security bigtime, built a wall and found new ways to protect their citizens. So during times of conflict, it's only Palestinians who get killed, mainly because Hamas does whatever they can to ensure that (no bomb shelters, keep attacking Israel and instigating violence to make Israel retaliate.) So of course more people are supporting the 'Palestinians' (I'm talking about people who are very uninformed about the conflict)
During the second intifada, many Israelis were getting murdered, which is why Israel had more support. The more Israel defends itself, the more people oppose them.

 

[Phoenall]

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

 

[Phoenall]

It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

They are not foreign troops are they as the land is Jewish sovereign territory under the terms of the LoN Mandate of Palestine 1923. So as you say foreign troops, as in arab muslim terrorists, are legitimate targets. Just as human shields are also legitimate targets and so are illegal immigrants throwing rocks at the IDF.

Want to show a link giving the arab muslims sovereignty over the 22% of Palestine granted as the Jewish National home ?

 

[Phoenall]

It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

How is throwing rocks at soldiers going to help the 'Palestinians'?

It will give them more propaganda to fleece the west of blood money with, which will end up in swiss bank accounts and terror tunnels.

 

[Phoenall]

It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

How is throwing rocks at soldiers going to help the 'Palestinians'?

Indeed, the IDF loves rocks. Time, and time, and time again they keep going back for more rocks.

Then the Palestinians must love death as time and time again they keep going back for another fire fight that ends in 2000 of them dead. You would have thought that they would have learnt by now that allah has deserted them and they don't stand a chance in a modern war.

 

[Phoenall]

Mostly islamonazis and neo marxists