In regard of holding Israel by double standards

[Phoenall]

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.​

Yes, let's do.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. There is no terrorism there.

You are lying again.

How is throwing rocks at soldiers going to help the 'Palestinians'?

Indeed, the IDF loves rocks. Time, and time, and time again they keep going back for more rocks.

And Palestinians love digging holes. They keep digging the hole they are in deeper and deeper.

Palestinians are such whiners and are the only people on earth who whine when they get attacked AFTER attacking soldiers.

"Why did they shoot me with a rubber bullet?? What did I do ?!??!? "

Israel is the one digging a hole for itself. Every time it does something stupid (regularly) its opposition grows.

Look at the trend. Twenty years ago pro Palestinian rallies drew...like...three people.

Because of mass Islamic migration to other countries, if the west starts to deport Islamic criminals and terrorists then you will see these protests going back to 2 or 3 people

 

[Challenger]

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

 

[Phoenall]

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

Then show these alleged Palestinian attempts at negotiations in good faith and I will show you the evidence from the Ottoman archives.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Mostly islamonazis and neo marxists

 

[Phoenall]

Mostly islamonazis and neo marxists

Take a close look at your own video and see for yourself what the majority of protesters are.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Mostly islamonazis and neo marxists

Take a close look at your own video and see for yourself what the majority of protesters are.

Whatever they are, Israel is worried.

 

[Phoenall]

Mostly islamonazis and neo marxists

Take a close look at your own video and see for yourself what the majority of protesters are.

Whatever they are, Israel is worried.

Wrong again as the protests are being dealt with by simply removing the BDS protesters from the schools and colleges before they lose government funding.

 

[Daniyel]

Mostly islamonazis and neo marxists

Take a close look at your own video and see for yourself what the majority of protesters are.

Whatever they are, Israel is worried.

Yup, youth can be easily swayed and even "radicalized"

 

[mrjingles]

Just something I've stumbled on recently..

Diplomatic drama during the Europe-Israel panel at The Jerusalem Post Diplomatic Conference in Jerusalem on Thursday, moderated by Herb Keinon with The Jerusalem Post | JPost.com's Senior Contributing Editor Caroline B. Glick and Danish Ambassador Jesper Vahr. Thanks to Eli Mandelbaum. taken from Steve Lindh FB

Bla bla bla, Israel has no standards.

Sadly Israel sees the palestinians as human beings so doesn't so what Russia, the US or UK would do and carpet bomb the scum back to the stone age

 

[mrjingles]

Her brother Jiminy Glick interviewing Mel Brooks about the jewish experience growing up and the Nazis. ......

Go to a Shiite country and wait for the Jews to save you

 

[mrjingles]

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

 

[Billo_Really]

Jordan and Israel reached the agreement over the WB, the Palestinians are simply those didn't want to live in Jordan and didn't want to live in Israel - so they were trying to get rid of Israel, it is not lawful to claim for conducting a state over a current sovereign country, sorry.

Wrong! The WB was seized during the '67 war. UN resolution 242 has confirmed this.

It is naturally a state responsibility, Jerusalem ENTIRELY is a part of the state of Israel and so it will remain to the end of days, Israel CAN and SHOULD help working for the wealth and prosperity of its citizens, that applies to the WB and EJ as well since they are not part of illegal activities and all done with full agreement of both parties, if for instance Israel was "settling" in Jordan that would've been illegal, but the WB is part of the state of Israel and most definitely not part of the state of Palestine - but an Israeli territory.

Wrong again! There isn't a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Not one. And there are over 100 UN resolutions saying you're full of shit.

The world wouldn't let Hitler keep Poland and it won't let you keep the occupied territories. After 50 years of no recognition, one would think you'd catch the clue.

Let's get down to the point, aside from the UNRWA confession I assume you'd have some piece of clumsy article to wave with so let's see it, and just to let you know that once a valid military target is entering a civil infrastructure it does make it instantly a warzone and a valid military target and let's not forget they didn't just went there to grab a snack and leave but for military needs such as torturing Palestinians - no wait - Mossad agents like David Blat.

The "clumsy article" is the one you're using to try and prove your point. Weapons were found at a vacant school. That doesn't automatically make the entire area a free fire zone.

That is a little exaggerated but since it's OUR soldiers lives sacrificed I beg your pardon but I'd rather having entire Gaza flattened instead of having my family and friends in danger which is why we are at war if you're not informed and yes their lives worth the lives of Hamas supporting Gaza so get over it, I'm pretty sure tactics and strategies is not your brightest side so let me educate you on the purpose of protecting your troops, this is the goal, and Israel should've taken over entire Gaza not just the north eastern side but that is a different subject.

It's not exaggerated. You dropped bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. Everyone in that neighborhood, was not a danger. And of the ones that were, it is because you illegally invaded their land.

I'm always standing for my words, sorry Bill I think you are mistaken me for the typical clowns you hang out with.

And you're words are irresponsible, if you think they supersede international law.

IDF Detains Hamas Members on Fishing Boat That Violated Restrictions Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
You tell me, or perhaps you can explain which particularly sick society we are hoping an entire nation would be wiped out?

Yours is a sick society. Hamas members on a fishing boat, is not illegal. A Gazan fishing boat leaving it's territorial waters into international waters, is not illegal. Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and has no right to stop any boat. Nor does it have any right limiting Gazan fishing.

Sure, when and where. Feel free to summarize your whole accusations in one thread.

They're not accusations. I've proven everything I've said.

 

[Phoenall]

Jordan and Israel reached the agreement over the WB, the Palestinians are simply those didn't want to live in Jordan and didn't want to live in Israel - so they were trying to get rid of Israel, it is not lawful to claim for conducting a state over a current sovereign country, sorry.

Wrong! The WB was seized during the '67 war. UN resolution 242 has confirmed this.

It is naturally a state responsibility, Jerusalem ENTIRELY is a part of the state of Israel and so it will remain to the end of days, Israel CAN and SHOULD help working for the wealth and prosperity of its citizens, that applies to the WB and EJ as well since they are not part of illegal activities and all done with full agreement of both parties, if for instance Israel was "settling" in Jordan that would've been illegal, but the WB is part of the state of Israel and most definitely not part of the state of Palestine - but an Israeli territory.

Wrong again! There isn't a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Not one. And there are over 100 UN resolutions saying you're full of shit.

The world wouldn't let Hitler keep Poland and it won't let you keep the occupied territories. After 50 years of no recognition, one would think you'd catch the clue.

Let's get down to the point, aside from the UNRWA confession I assume you'd have some piece of clumsy article to wave with so let's see it, and just to let you know that once a valid military target is entering a civil infrastructure it does make it instantly a warzone and a valid military target and let's not forget they didn't just went there to grab a snack and leave but for military needs such as torturing Palestinians - no wait - Mossad agents like David Blat.

The "clumsy article" is the one you're using to try and prove your point. Weapons were found at a vacant school. That doesn't automatically make the entire area a free fire zone.

That is a little exaggerated but since it's OUR soldiers lives sacrificed I beg your pardon but I'd rather having entire Gaza flattened instead of having my family and friends in danger which is why we are at war if you're not informed and yes their lives worth the lives of Hamas supporting Gaza so get over it, I'm pretty sure tactics and strategies is not your brightest side so let me educate you on the purpose of protecting your troops, this is the goal, and Israel should've taken over entire Gaza not just the north eastern side but that is a different subject.

It's not exaggerated. You dropped bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. Everyone in that neighborhood, was not a danger. And of the ones that were, it is because you illegally invaded their land.

I'm always standing for my words, sorry Bill I think you are mistaken me for the typical clowns you hang out with.

And you're words are irresponsible, if you think they supersede international law.

IDF Detains Hamas Members on Fishing Boat That Violated Restrictions Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
You tell me, or perhaps you can explain which particularly sick society we are hoping an entire nation would be wiped out?

Yours is a sick society. Hamas members on a fishing boat, is not illegal. A Gazan fishing boat leaving it's territorial waters into international waters, is not illegal. Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and has no right to stop any boat. Nor does it have any right limiting Gazan fishing.

Sure, when and where. Feel free to summarize your whole accusations in one thread.

They're not accusations. I've proven everything I've said.

And under the terms of 242 Israel offered the west bank back to them. Your point being what exactly

And one international law that shows you don't know crap from granola. This is why the UN GC does not act on the resolutions because they know they would be up before the Hague on charges of war crimes.

It does if the surrounding area was known to house rocket launchers and terrorist hideouts.

They were given 48 hours notice of the intention to reduce a military target to rubble. Still waiting for the link showing the illegal taking of land.

It seems that when international law works in Israels favour you want it changing, why is this ?

Wrong on all counts look up maritime law regarding smuggling and terrorism. Again International law working in Israel's favour and you want it changing.

No you have linked to anti Semitic Jew hatred sites because unbiased ones don't say what you want to hear.

 

[Daniyel]

Jordan and Israel reached the agreement over the WB, the Palestinians are simply those didn't want to live in Jordan and didn't want to live in Israel - so they were trying to get rid of Israel, it is not lawful to claim for conducting a state over a current sovereign country, sorry.

Wrong! The WB was seized during the '67 war. UN resolution 242 has confirmed this.

Seized from Jordan, not a Palestinian state as far as I'm concerned.

It is naturally a state responsibility, Jerusalem ENTIRELY is a part of the state of Israel and so it will remain to the end of days, Israel CAN and SHOULD help working for the wealth and prosperity of its citizens, that applies to the WB and EJ as well since they are not part of illegal activities and all done with full agreement of both parties, if for instance Israel was "settling" in Jordan that would've been illegal, but the WB is part of the state of Israel and most definitely not part of the state of Palestine - but an Israeli territory.

Wrong again! There isn't a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Not one. And there are over 100 UN resolutions saying you're full of shit.

The world wouldn't let Hitler keep Poland and it won't let you keep the occupied territories. After 50 years of no recognition, one would think you'd catch the clue.

Obviously because of people like you but it still doesn't change the simple fact that this land is claimed by Israel and most definitely not from a Palestinian state.

Let's get down to the point, aside from the UNRWA confession I assume you'd have some piece of clumsy article to wave with so let's see it, and just to let you know that once a valid military target is entering a civil infrastructure it does make it instantly a warzone and a valid military target and let's not forget they didn't just went there to grab a snack and leave but for military needs such as torturing Palestinians - no wait - Mossad agents like David Blat.

The "clumsy article" is the one you're using to try and prove your point. Weapons were found at a vacant school. That doesn't automatically make the entire area a free fire zone.

You can repeat yourself all over again and it won't change a damn thing unless you'd be able to convince me with solid proof and a very good explanation for mine.

That is a little exaggerated but since it's OUR soldiers lives sacrificed I beg your pardon but I'd rather having entire Gaza flattened instead of having my family and friends in danger which is why we are at war if you're not informed and yes their lives worth the lives of Hamas supporting Gaza so get over it, I'm pretty sure tactics and strategies is not your brightest side so let me educate you on the purpose of protecting your troops, this is the goal, and Israel should've taken over entire Gaza not just the north eastern side but that is a different subject.

It's not exaggerated. You dropped bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. Everyone in that neighborhood, was not a danger. And of the ones that were, it is because you illegally invaded their land.

So why in the world Israel should've waste those bombs on innocent civilians? Is there a single soldier in Gaza? Stop bullshitting - Israel could've wipe entire Gaza in 15 minutes.

I'm always standing for my words, sorry Bill I think you are mistaken me for the typical clowns you hang out with.

And you're words are irresponsible, if you think they supersede international law.

Go ahead prove me wrong.

IDF Detains Hamas Members on Fishing Boat That Violated Restrictions Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
You tell me, or perhaps you can explain which particularly sick society we are hoping an entire nation would be wiped out?

Yours is a sick society. Hamas members on a fishing boat, is not illegal. A Gazan fishing boat leaving it's territorial waters into international waters, is not illegal. Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and has no right to stop any boat. Nor does it have any right limiting Gazan fishing.

Haha you really expect Israel to simply let Hamas members to smuggle weapons and gather intell while trespassing the blockade? You really consider us THAT stupid?

Sure, when and where. Feel free to summarize your whole accusations in one thread.

They're not accusations. I've proven everything I've said.

You can feel free to simply post a link or tag me, so far you didn't do anything except surprising us all with the Mossad plot in the NBA.

 

[montelatici]

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

 

[Phoenall]

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Unbiased and provable link to the 89% of Palestinian population being muslim and 10% being Christian.

 

[Phoenall]

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Unbiased and provable link to the 89% of Palestinian population being muslim and 10% being Christian.

 

[Challenger]

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

The Ottoman army would have disagreed with you.

Filastin Risalesi, an official publication of the Ottoman army, used as an officer’s manual for the Palestine region.

 

[Challenger]

The West Bank is Israel's heartland in terms of security (without it Israel is only 9 miles wide at its waist, and the WB has the highlands), as well as in terms of history, archaeology, and heritage.

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Natives.

 

[Slyhunter]

In terms of history, archaeology, and heritage, Palestinians have over 1,300 years of that in the same place. Modern Israelis that migrated from Europe, America, Arabia and Africa, less than 100. "Security" is irrelevant, many countries have insecure borders; Zionist Israel has had several opprtunities for a lasting peace but has never negotiated in good faith and has created the "security" problems it now faces.

They have at most 30 years up to 1099 when they where evicted and lost control and sovereignty of the land. They did not gain control of any part of Palestine until 1947 when the British and Mandatory granted then full sovereignty under the mandate of Jordan. At no time since 1099 has any arab muslim held sovereignty of the land of Palestine and you cant produce a link saying any other. The evidence of the Ottomans show that Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land. Israel has a proven track record of negotiating peace deals that last, so how you can say they don't shows that you are blinkered by hatred of the Jews. It is the Palestinian arab muslims that refuse to negotiate in good faith, and just demand unworkable and insecure pre conditions that have no basis in any international law.

Complete drivel. The Turks, unlike the Zionist colonists, expelled no-one. Show us your Ottoman "evidence" that "Palestine was very sparsely populated and the arab muslims refused to stay and colonise the land." The Palestinians have always tried to negotiate in good faith, not so the Zionist colonists.

The 'palestinians' didn't exist at the time of Ottoman rule

So, what were the Christians and Muslims of Palestine which were 99% of the population called?

Unbiased and provable link to the 89% of Palestinian population being muslim and 10% being Christian.

unbiased and provable link that your not a figment of my imagination.