In regard of holding Israel by double standards

[Phoenall]

It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

No It was occupied, and when Jordan and Israel agreed to peace talks it was offered back. Jordan declined the offer as it was never their land in the first place and told Israel to keep it.

WRONG the land settled is actually Jewish owned land stolen from them in 1949 by the arab muslims. So they can do what they like on their land.

They bombed a military rocket launcher that was in the hospital grounds, this under the Geneva conventions makes it a valid military target.

WRONG AGAIN read the Geneva conventions.

Still waiting for your link as proof of this happening, do you know what damage a 2,000lb bomb would do in a civilian area ?

Please show them then as I and many others cant see them.

Prove they were fishing and not smuggling weapons, something you refuse to do every time you are asked. The one video you produce shows them using cargo nets to catch sardines.

How about we tell the truth and talk about Palestinian terrorists throwing rocks at IDF on the ground, and the snipers injuring them so they cant run away.

 

[Phoenall]

Just something I've stumbled on recently..

Bla bla bla, Israel has no standards.

Everyone just figures the Arabs are barbarians anyway, so it's true that they're held to a lower standard than Israel.

You're wrong, only Zionists and their fascist and other "Right-ist" fellow-travellers think Arabs are barbarians, mostly because they're too frightened and bigoted to try to discover otherwise.

BULLSHIT even other arab nations see certain arabs as barbarians

Which Arab nations, which "certain Arabs"?

Start with Egypt, Jordan and Saudi that see the arab muslims of gaza as barbarians. And Saudi see's the arab muslim terrorists of Yemen as barbarians

 

[Phoenall]

Then produce one of these resolutions saying just that, where the UN demands Israel abides by International law OR ELSE ?

UN resolution 242, troll.

Here's a few others...

December 6, 1979: Resolution 34/70: Reaffirms previous calls for a full Israeli withdrawal from the occupied territories and an international peace conference with PLO participation.

December 12, 1979: Resolution 34/93-P: Demanding that Israel terminate all form of collaboration with South Africa.

December 16, 1982: Resolution 37/123: Condemnation of Israel's responsibility for the Sabra and Shatila massacre in Beirut, Lebanon; resolves that the massacre was an act of genocide; condemns acts of plundering Palestinian cultural heritage; condemns the occupation of the West Bank, Gaza and the Golan Heights; and condemns the annexation of Jerusalem.

Go to the link and check them out, troll.

I dare you!

Cant see any mention of International laws in any of those links, want to try again only this time producing any UN resolution that is enforceable in law and clearly states the International Law Israel is in breach of.

A hint for you UN resolutions are only recomendations

U.N. General Assembly resolutions, while non-binding, are considered the "consensus" in world opinion on a subject and ultimatley they can become part of customary International Law and often do find their way into conventions and treaties.

Nope as the UN remit does not allow for any resolution becoming international law. So each and every UN resolution is a recommendation only. As I asked produce one UN resolution that stated the International law at the time that Israel had breached ?

 

[Phoenall]

It wasn't seized in a war, it was handed by Jordan in a peace treaty -

No it wasn't! It was seized during the '67 war. Stop trying to re-write history.

Jordan can have their piece in this claim, there is zero intervention in demographics as you'd like it to be presented -

Oh shut up! You're an insult to a persons intelligence. The West Bank and East Jerusalem are under occupation. Israel is "settling" part of their population in these areas. Stop lying!

"GENOCIDE" - and more over - the Police handle the WB and by stating 'civilian infrastructure' you might would dig up one case that is still under investigation and claim "SEE ISRAEL BOMBED THAT HOSPITAL" -

Israel did bomb that hospital. Which shows how sick your society is.

when Amnesty themselves claimed Hamas used these hospitals and therefore turned them into valid military targets

Wrong again. AI did not say Hamas used the hospital to store weapons or shoot at Israeli soldiers. Even if they did, it's still not a legal target. You cannot bomb a hospital no matter what the reason is. They're off limits, asshole!

and yes Israel did beyond expected and required to minimize civilian casualties,

Another bullshit lie. You dropped 2000 pound bombs that took out entire neighborhoods. That's not minimizing civilian casualties.

like it or not but you don't really have much of a solid ground here all but false accusations that proven to be propaganda lies.

You just got done admitting Israeli did some of those "false accusations". Man, what a little irresponsible ***** you are.

Now for the last time you 'suppose' IDF shooting people "fishing and farming" - so suppose again, they are valid military targets and in fact IDF is not even shooting AT them but shooting NEARBY them.

How is fishing a threat to Israeli national security? You are a sick individual! You're entire society is sick in the head. You don't deserve a country. You're a bunch of inhuman pieces of shit. I hope you get nuked!

How about China? you know where you'll be taken when you cross to the Chinese border? obviously not because nobody ever came back, but lets not stray to the far east, how about Egypt? we are talking about immediate SNIPER RIFLES with deadly accuracy and firepower, not just blanks and warning, perhaps that is a double standard or is it not?

How about lets talk about Israeli snipers shooting children on the roof?

Jordan lost the West Bank to Israel in 1967, and dropped all claims to the WB in 1988. In 1994, Israel and Jordan signed a peace treaty. I believe Israel gave Jordan a tiny sliver of land to complete the treaty. Everyone wants a piece of Israel.

Jordan ceded its claim to the West Bank in favour of the PLO, not Zionist Israel.

So where are the PLO now ?

 

[Phoenall]

Everyone just figures the Arabs are barbarians anyway, so it's true that they're held to a lower standard than Israel.

You're wrong, only Zionists and their fascist and other "Right-ist" fellow-travellers think Arabs are barbarians, mostly because they're too frightened and bigoted to try to discover otherwise.

BULLSHIT even other arab nations see certain arabs as barbarians

Which Arab nations, which "certain Arabs"?

I'm sure that some Arabs regard ISIS as being barbarian. King Abdullah said that ISIS is evil.

ISIS is not "Arabs"

They aren't Jews, Sikhs or Hindus are they ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

That is based on double standards Israel.

No it's not, it's based on international law!

It is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war.
That's not a double standard.
You cannot change the demographics of a territory under occupation. That's not a double standard.
You cannot target civilian infrastructure.
That's not a double standard.​

I suppose objecting to the IDF shooting at people fishing and farming, is a double standard?

Stop. Just stop. You're getting ridiculous!

State the law and the date of its inception

Show where the demographics have changed from 1947 to 2015 ?

Yet you support hamas when they target schools and civilian areas.

So you see your support for the palestnians is nothing less than double standards

Objecting to the IDF firing on terrorists pretending to be fishing or farming is another example of double standards by you

I don't see any weapons. I don't see anyone climbing the fence.

 

[GHook93]

Israel holds itself to a different standard.

Very true a HIGH moral standard. What other country at war drops leaflets and makes phone calls tell the populace to flee before they come.

The restraint she holds to is a perfect example of this.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel holds itself to a different standard.

Very true a HIGH moral standard. What other country at war drops leaflets and makes phone calls tell the populace to flee before they come.

The restraint she holds to is a perfect example of this.

And if Hamas dropped leaflets on Sderot that would make it OK then?

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

This must be from some brainless idiot in Israel.

 

[montelatici]

Israel holds itself to a different standard.

Very true a HIGH moral standard. What other country at war drops leaflets and makes phone calls tell the populace to flee before they come.

The restraint she holds to is a perfect example of this.

Idiot. Drop a leaflet and then drop a bomb murdering hundreds of children. What restraint.

 

[toastman]

Ok, so point out two lies that she made and explain why they are lies.

Now you went from 3 to 2

First time I've had a real live hebe ever try to "jew me down". .......

*yawn* More deflections. So it's official. I caught you lying......again... Not that it changes anything, as we already knew you were full of Muslim shit

Keep it up Sunni Welfare Troll

Toast, you always do this crap. Israeli propaganda is not fact. I question if you have caught this admittedly over the top partisan in a lie. I do know that you are simply another over the top partisan on the other side.

You're the one who always spewing propaganda and trying to make it fact. You do it all the time. I asked Sunni Troll to point out where there were lies and he couldn't do that. Neither could you.

 

[toastman]

*yawn* More deflections. So it's official. I caught you lying......again... Not that it changes anything, as we already knew you were full of Muslim shit

It's not a deflection.

Just listen to the OP's video.

Everything she says is right out of the "Protocols of Zion" playbook. Lying and more lies. From A to Z.

But then again, you already knew that. ......

More deflections. You have nothing but hatred and lies as usual Sunni Troll, that's why you're here.

 

[Challenger]

You're wrong, only Zionists and their fascist and other "Right-ist" fellow-travellers think Arabs are barbarians, mostly because they're too frightened and bigoted to try to discover otherwise.

BULLSHIT even other arab nations see certain arabs as barbarians

Which Arab nations, which "certain Arabs"?

I'm sure that some Arabs regard ISIS as being barbarian. King Abdullah said that ISIS is evil.

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

 

[Challenger]

Bla bla bla, Israel has no standards.

Everyone just figures the Arabs are barbarians anyway, so it's true that they're held to a lower standard than Israel.

You're wrong, only Zionists and their fascist and other "Right-ist" fellow-travellers think Arabs are barbarians, mostly because they're too frightened and bigoted to try to discover otherwise.

BULLSHIT even other arab nations see certain arabs as barbarians

Which Arab nations, which "certain Arabs"?

Start with Egypt, Jordan and Saudi that see the arab muslims of gaza as barbarians. And Saudi see's the arab muslim terrorists of Yemen as barbarians

Unsubstantiated opinion. Cite speeches where the governments of any of these countries have called the people of Gaza, or Yemen, barbarians.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

BULLSHIT even other arab nations see certain arabs as barbarians

Which Arab nations, which "certain Arabs"?

I'm sure that some Arabs regard ISIS as being barbarian. King Abdullah said that ISIS is evil.

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

 

[Challenger]

Which Arab nations, which "certain Arabs"?

I'm sure that some Arabs regard ISIS as being barbarian. King Abdullah said that ISIS is evil.

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

 

[Phoenall]

That is based on double standards Israel.

No it's not, it's based on international law!

It is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war.
That's not a double standard.
You cannot change the demographics of a territory under occupation. That's not a double standard.
You cannot target civilian infrastructure.
That's not a double standard.​

I suppose objecting to the IDF shooting at people fishing and farming, is a double standard?

Stop. Just stop. You're getting ridiculous!

State the law and the date of its inception

Show where the demographics have changed from 1947 to 2015 ?

Yet you support hamas when they target schools and civilian areas.

So you see your support for the palestnians is nothing less than double standards

Objecting to the IDF firing on terrorists pretending to be fishing or farming is another example of double standards by you

I don't see any weapons. I don't see anyone climbing the fence.

All I see is disjointed and very badly edited footage of nothing. The sound of gunfire is dubbed onto the video, and you see people throwing themselves on the floor pretending to have been shot only to get up and run away.

Try finding some real footage and not that from an islamonazi source.

 

[Phoenall]

Israel holds itself to a different standard.

Very true a HIGH moral standard. What other country at war drops leaflets and makes phone calls tell the populace to flee before they come.

The restraint she holds to is a perfect example of this.

And if Hamas dropped leaflets on Sderot that would make it OK then?

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

This must be from some brainless idiot in Israel.

If they did then the world would know once and for all that they were targeting civilians in terrorist attacks, and you would not be able to hold your head up

 

[Phoenall]

Israel holds itself to a different standard.

Very true a HIGH moral standard. What other country at war drops leaflets and makes phone calls tell the populace to flee before they come.

The restraint she holds to is a perfect example of this.

Idiot. Drop a leaflet and then drop a bomb murdering hundreds of children. What restraint.

Get it right drop millions of leaflets like the USA did during WW2, giving the civilian population plenty of time to get to safety. Then 24 hours later bomb the illegal rocket launchers into scrap metal. If hamas refuse to allow the civilians to leave then they are the murderers according to International Laws in the Geneva conventions.

 

[Phoenall]

I'm sure that some Arabs regard ISIS as being barbarian. King Abdullah said that ISIS is evil.

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

Profiling and the evidence of history

 

[ForeverYoung436]

ISIS is not "Arabs"

It's true that ISIS, al Queida, al Shabab, al Nusra, etc. do not represent all Arabs, but they are made up of Arabs/Muslims or converts to Islam. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Which makes yours and Phoney's points irrelevant to the discussion. The only pretence here is the attempt to conflate muslim extremist fanatics with Arabs in general and so demonise them as a group/race, etc.

It's not irrelevant since Arabs/Muslims have a predisposition towards extremism. (Again, this is not to say that all Arabs are like that.) Israel has to take that into account before surrendering her heartland to them. In the Middle East, it's hard to separate politics and religion.

What psychcogical studies have determined that Arabs have a greater predisposition towards extremism than any other group of humanity? Israel's "heartland" is not Gaza or the West Bank, neither of which is Israel's to surrender. Politics and religion are very prevalent in other countries outside the Middle East, America immediately springs to mind.

Profiling and the evidence of history

America is "religious" in a different kind of way. If a president has a 2-hour State of the Union address centering on economics and ends the speech with "Gd bless America', that's different from Nasrallah (the head of Hezbollah) rambling on and on about the will of Allah to have martyrs die for his cause.