In re January 6, 2021

[Dragonlady]

They sell their soul and hand their party to the buffoon, and then they complain when we bring him up.

Always the victims.

If we don't bring him up, they do, and then complain.

You underestimate this country if you think we actually came close to being taken over by a reality TV star.

He wasn't alone in all of this. He has Rupert Murdoch and all of FOX New, Breitbart, and the Sinclair Family backing him. They all want white authoritarian rule that guarantees their tax cuts. What happens to the rest of you, doesn't matter. The more you act badly, the more you make the case for a "strong man" in the White House.

That's why Trump and his ilk are deifying Kyle Rittenhouse. They need a whole army of young thugs to terrorize the weakling Democrats.

 

[Dragonlady]

And you're a deranged, delusional, sociopathic, fifth columnist clown.

Go take your meds.

When all you have are names wherein you project your fear and paranoia onto others, it shows the dearth of your own ideas. Libertarianism and anarchism are not viable social structures.

 

[Correll]

If we don't bring him up, they do, and then complain.


He wasn't alone in all of this. He has Rupert Murdoch and all of FOX New, Breitbart, and the Sinclair Family backing him. They all want white authoritarian rule that guarantees their tax cuts. What happens to the rest of you, doesn't matter. The more you act badly, the more you make the case for a "strong man" in the White House.

That's why Trump and his ilk are deifying Kyle Rittenhouse. They need a whole army of young thugs to terrorize the weakling Democrats.

Rittenhouse defended himself from a violent mob. Any healthy, sane person would celebrate that.

 

[Anomalism]

If we don't bring him up, they do, and then complain.


He wasn't alone in all of this. He has Rupert Murdoch and all of FOX New, Breitbart, and the Sinclair Family backing him. They all want white authoritarian rule that guarantees their tax cuts. What happens to the rest of you, doesn't matter. The more you act badly, the more you make the case for a "strong man" in the White House.

That's why Trump and his ilk are deifying Kyle Rittenhouse. They need a whole army of young thugs to terrorize the weakling

White supremacists are not going to turn the United States into a fascist dictatorship. Trump doesn't have the nuts to be Hitler even if he had a path and the means to be, which he doesn't and never did. Your fear is exaggerated and irrational.

 

[Oddball]

If we don't bring him up, they do, and then complain.


He wasn't alone in all of this. He has Rupert Murdoch and all of FOX New, Breitbart, and the Sinclair Family backing him. They all want white authoritarian rule that guarantees their tax cuts. What happens to the rest of you, doesn't matter. The more you act badly, the more you make the case for a "strong man" in the White House.

That's why Trump and his ilk are deifying Kyle Rittenhouse. They need a whole army of young thugs to terrorize the weakling Democrats.

 

[Oddball]

When all you have are names wherein you project your fear and paranoia onto others, it shows the dearth of your own ideas. Libertarianism and anarchism are not viable social structures.

When I need the opinion of an ill-informed, unhinged crackpot, you'll be at the head of my list.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You people have used similar language in similar cases, when the roles were reversed.


Why the change up?

All conservatives do is lie; they are as reprehensible as they are wrong.

 

[Rye Catcher]

It's evident that Oddball and other anarchistic libertarians are incapable of writing anything substantive, thoughtful or thought provoking. In fact Oddball can't seem to write anything more than logical fallacies, and in particular personal attacks of those whose opinions are based in reality.

 

[Rye Catcher]

All conservatives do is lie; they are as reprehensible as they are wrong.

The fact is they're not conservatives, they are the brand of 21st Century faux conservatives who are out of touch with realty, lack a formal education and spent their lives posting hate, BIG LIES, Logical Fallacies and Conspiracy Stories. The latter does not benefit for being a Conspiracy Theory, theories are not built on fictions.

 

[Oddball]

All conservatives do is lie; they are as reprehensible as they are wrong.

 

[Oddball]

The fact is they're not conservatives, they are the brand of 21st Century faux conservatives who are out of touch with realty, lack a formal education and spent their lives posting hate, BIG LIES, Logical Fallacies and Conspiracy Stories. The latter does not benefit for being a Conspiracy Theory, theories are not built on fictions.

2a. Freudian projection​

The following is a collection of definitions of projection from orthodox psychology texts. In this system the distinct mechanism of projecting own unconscious or undesirable characteristics onto another is called Freudian Projection.

• “A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits.”
• “The externalisation of internal unconscious wishes, desires or emotions on to other people. So, for example, someone who feels subconsciously that they have a powerful latent homosexual drive may not acknowledge this consciously, but it may show in their readiness to suspect others of being homosexual.”
• “Attributing one’s own undesirable traits to other people or agencies, e.g., an aggressive man accuses other people of being hostile.”
• “The individual perceives in others the motive he denies having himself. Thus the cheat is sure that everyone else is dishonest. The would-be adulterer accuses his wife of infidelity.”
• “People attribute their own undesirable traits onto others. An individual who unconsciously recognises his or her aggressive tendencies may then see other people acting in an excessively aggressive way.”
• “Projection is the opposite defence mechanism to identification. We project our own unpleasant feelings onto someone else and blame them for having thoughts that we really have.”

Freudian Projection: Of what they accuse, they are themselves guilty.

 

[Chillicothe]

Well, so the thread doesn't get stuck in Freud, or live-streaming epithets and naughty words, perhaps, it would be more instructive if we ---again----went over what seemed to be a perceptive and insightful view from one of our writers here. It can't hurt.
More importantly, it has the benefit of establishing an agreed upon baseline of perception. A commonality. An understanding.

Let's go:
"This is about a twice impeached, 7 times bankrupt, criminal conman who managed to get himself elected President of the United States of America, and refuses to give up power. Every business deal Trump has ever done has ended with the property owners firing his ass for incompetence, and Trump suing them into the ground and refusing to leave the property until every last appeal has been lost, and the sheriff comes and evicts him. Then the residents cheer and drink champagne as his name is taken off the building.

This is just Donald Trump playing out his usual loser scenario but this time, he's trying to take down your entire nation in the process."
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I'm mildly neutral on much of the political rhetoric that gets aired on this venue. But, when some poster takes the time and effort to coherently and articulately make a case for their view----without fbombs, scatological effluvia, or cross-dressing Oathkeepers, well, we all can admire that.

So a hat-tip to the unnamed poster of above who successfully worked to educate us.

 

[MisterBeale]

"Attorneys for former President Donald Trump argued Wednesday that the pursuit of his White House records by a congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol could have long-lasting, harmful effects on the presidency.

"The [committee’s] clear disdain for President Trump is leading them to a course of action that will result in permanent damage to the institution of the presidency," Trump's attorneys wrote in a brief filed in federal court.

"In reality, their success would gut the protections afforded presidential communications of any just and uniform standard. An incumbent president would always be able to condemn the actions of a former president from a rival party and permit confidentiality to be broken to further political ends,” they wrote."

Is this a valid argument?

Trump argues Jan. 6 panel could permanently damage the presidency with its pursuit of White House records

An appeals court is scheduled to hear oral arguments in the case next week.

www.yahoo.com

Honestly Rye?

I don't give a damn.

I have read those articles in Revolver, and I have seen the questions raised by the Freedom Caucus. I am highly suspicious that the DNC and the establishment don't REALLY want to do a THOROUGH investigation, they only want to pin the whole thing on Trump and his supporters, so that the establishment can get that, "Domestic Terror," legislation out of committee.



Now?

If Trump is on it, or if he was used. . . fine, if he was not, also fine, but unless the left, and the establishment is going to do an open and honest investigation, you folks can go stuff it. You show, with ever day that you pursue this?

You don't give a shit about the truth.

You only care about spinning a narrative, and finding evidence to support that narrative, or to build a case against Trump's re-election.

Jan 6 Documentary​

 

[Correll]

All conservatives do is lie; they are as reprehensible as they are wrong.

You are full of shit, and you know it, EVERYONE KNOWS IT.

 

[lennypartiv]

Is this a valid argument?

Sounds good to me, especially since it looks like another witch hunt.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Sounds good to me, especially since it looks like another witch hunt.

It sounds good to you do to your allegiance to trump. The fact is Donald Trump is moving forward to destroy democracy in America. And he's not alone. It's people like you who are anti democracy, and reject the vision left to us by the Preamble to the Constitution and all of it's articles.

 

[Uncensored2008]

"Attorneys for former President Donald Trump argued Wednesday that the pursuit of his White House records by a congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol could have long-lasting, harmful effects on the presidency.

"The [committee’s] clear disdain for President Trump is leading them to a course of action that will result in permanent damage to the institution of the presidency," Trump's attorneys wrote in a brief filed in federal court.

"In reality, their success would gut the protections afforded presidential communications of any just and uniform standard. An incumbent president would always be able to condemn the actions of a former president from a rival party and permit confidentiality to be broken to further political ends,” they wrote."

Is this a valid argument?

Trump argues Jan. 6 panel could permanently damage the presidency with its pursuit of White House records

An appeals court is scheduled to hear oral arguments in the case next week.

www.yahoo.com

Gas prices have doubled, the surrender and retreat in Afghanistan were the worst military blunder in American history, food prices up 18% since January, October Jobs report off 50% of expectations.


LOOK... OVER THERE,,, The RECHSTG FIRE!

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, but it's the best they can do. Not doing it would allow a lame duck President to get away with quite a bit. Like, say, instigating and planning an insurrection.

I would definitely say it's a better argument than "we're not gonna help the commies in their phony investigation", though. At least his people know this is serious.

Yeah, you're not a mindless fucking hack desperately trying to distract America from the abject failure of your party - much...

 

[Mac1958]

Yeah, you're not a mindless fucking hack desperately trying to distract America from the abject failure of your party - much...

Hi Trumpster!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Hi Trumpster!

Did you have a nice Thanksgiving, Nazi? Or is that "hatesgiving" for you of the Reich? You go around the table telling everyone how much you hate America?