Immigration is Destroying America.

[BriannaMichele]

Anything? Including, for example, moving from a hopelessly poor neighborhood in Detroit to somewhere in South Texas to do agricultural work, even if on a seasonal basis?

Yeah, if those jobs weren't already taken by illegal immigrants that send all of their income out of the country.

There are still lots of those sorts of jobs. Why haven't we seen any reverse Great Migration?

What are you even arguing with me for? You support the idea of AMERICANS who are dirt poor losing jobs to ILLEGALS? That's just stupid. Sometimes I think you just argue for the sake of arguing. It's a waste of time trying to explain this to you. "Lots of those sorts of jobs" what do you live in a cave? Open your eyes! It's pretty damn difficult to find work PERIOD. The last thing this country needs is more people and less jobs to go around.


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[Unkotare]

You support the idea of AMERICANS who are dirt poor losing jobs to ILLEGALS?

No I don't, and I never said I did. Try to control your emotions and pay attention.

 

[BriannaMichele]

I have no problem maintaining my emotions, thank you. And you never had to say that. By arguing with me about the lower class losing jobs to illegal immigrants you've proven at least 1 of 3 things..

A. You're content with illegals taking jobs from the growing lower class (probably because you're well off)

B. You're just bored and find things to argue about because you have nothing better to do.

C. You always have to 1-up people, even if they are right/made a valid point because you have a superiority complex.


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[Taz]

How about this? If those kids decide that they would like to spend 4 years serving this country in the military (and yes, the language in the military is English, and you have to learn how to obey not only the rules of the military, but those of the current place you happen to be at), they should be given full citizenship.

Me? I served 21 years in the U.S. Navy and defended this country in no less than 4 war zones.

Considering that the current statistics say that only 1 percent (meaning 1 out of 100) people serve this country, I'd be willing to say that someone who does 4 years is more deserving of citizenship than most of the assholes that are protesting them.

How many of those protesters who are telling those kids to go home do you think have actually spent time defending this country in some service, whether it be the military or Border Guard?

I'm guessing not many.

On my last tour in the Navy, I was the LPO (Leading Petty Officer), and head of the MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station) for the Navy in Amarillo from 1999 until 2002. I served with a teacher from Mexico named Casillas who decided he could have a better life here, which is why he enlisted and earned his citizenship after around 6 years.

I've got more respect for Cas than I ever would for someone like Bundy or his ilk. Why? Because Cas actually served (and loved) this country, rather than wanted to suck off the teat of their natural born citizenship.

I'm not comfortable with the idea of giving immigrants jobs in the US military. This is just more immigrants taking jobs away from Americans. Secondly, many immigrants don't have an ounce of respect or loyalty for the USA. Many of them are a risk in US military uniform. This is especially true if they are enlisted just to gain citizenship for themselves.

Of course you're not comfortable with the idea of giving immigrants jobs in the US military.

But then again....................you really don't understand the military. You aren't GIVEN a job, you have to QUALIFY for it. I was a Classifier in the U.S. Navy from 1999 until 2002 (when I retired) and I never gave a job to someone who didn't have the test scores, as well as the requirements to get the job. Why? Because if I did, they would be disqualified as soon as they hit boot camp and their scores and record were checked.

If it's is just more immigrants taking jobs away from Americans, then can you tell me why it is that only 1 percent of the American population is willing to serve in the military?

And speaking of which.......................you stated that those same immigrants who enlisted don't have any loyalty or respect for the USA. Have you ever served? Have you ever been on the front lines? Have you ever been alongside an immigrant who enlisted in a war zone?

I have. Since 1982, and have served with them alongside me until 2002. Yeah.............a lot of them are in it for themselves, because they are hoping that if they can serve a minimum of 5 years (what it was for immigrants while I was serving) they can get citizenship.

How selfish is it to want to gain something for yourself if you're willing to put you ass on the line for others?

Most people who currently ARE U.S. citizens are not willing to serve in the military. Somehow, they think that job is "below" them because they don't get a whole lot of money, nor do they think they should have to put their asses on the line.

Quick question sportcheck...................how many years have YOU served?

Sounds like a plan, but how do you train people who can't read, count to 7 and write or speak English?

 

[Taz]

If we really want to **** up Islamists, we should turn all illegals Muslim and hand them over to ISIS.

 

[Unkotare]

I have no problem maintaining my emotions

Then you must be having a problem controlling your imagination (and remembering that this is a "discussion" forum).

 

[BriannaMichele]

Discussion-the action or process of talking about something, typically in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.

So unless I magically came through your phone, computer, or tablet and punched you in the throat (maybe created by your imagination) this still remains to be a discussion by definition and nothing more you childish, self entitled, pompous ass.


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[LadyGunSlinger]

I have no problem maintaining my emotions, thank you. And you never had to say that. By arguing with me about the lower class losing jobs to illegal immigrants you've proven at least 1 of 3 things..

A. You're content with illegals taking jobs from the growing lower class (probably because you're well off)

B. You're just bored and find things to argue about because you have nothing better to do.

C. You always have to 1-up people, even if they are right/made a valid point because you have a superiority complex.


•Pinky•

STFU and stop making a fool of yourself. You do NOT get to assign your thought process to anyone dummy.. GET IT? You sound like an ignorant teenager.. Barney has a forum more up to your speed.. USE IT.

 

[BriannaMichele]

I have no problem maintaining my emotions, thank you. And you never had to say that. By arguing with me about the lower class losing jobs to illegal immigrants you've proven at least 1 of 3 things..



A. You're content with illegals taking jobs from the growing lower class (probably because you're well off)



B. You're just bored and find things to argue about because you have nothing better to do.



C. You always have to 1-up people, even if they are right/made a valid point because you have a superiority complex.





•Pinky•

STFU and stop making a fool of yourself. You do NOT get to assign your thought process to anyone dummy.. GET IT? You sound like an ignorant teenager.. Barney has a forum more up to your speed.. USE IT.

Uh I can say what I want especially considering I see people use the word ****** on here at least 6 times a day and everything I have said is within the rules provided by the usmb. So why don't change your tampon, take a pamprin, get your panties out of the mangled bunch you've put them in, and quit concerning yourself with me and what I say (that wasn't even directed towards you) before you have a panic attack. Ps. I could really care less what you people think about me and I could care less about any of you. So save yourself the time and energy you keep wasting in your feeble attempt to make yourself look like a badass because I'm more mature than you'll ever be.


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[Unkotare]

I have no problem maintaining my emotions, thank you. And you never had to say that. By arguing with me about the lower class losing jobs to illegal immigrants you've proven at least 1 of 3 things..



A. You're content with illegals taking jobs from the growing lower class (probably because you're well off)



B. You're just bored and find things to argue about because you have nothing better to do.



C. You always have to 1-up people, even if they are right/made a valid point because you have a superiority complex.





•Pinky•

STFU and stop making a fool of yourself. You do NOT get to assign your thought process to anyone dummy.. GET IT? You sound like an ignorant teenager.. Barney has a forum more up to your speed.. USE IT.

Uh I can say what I want especially considering I see people use the word ****** on here at least 6 times a day

That has got to be one of the clumsiest attempts at playing the race card in an attempt to change the subject I've seen in a while. You're really bad at this.

Has anyone used that word on this thread?

 

[BriannaMichele]

STFU and stop making a fool of yourself. You do NOT get to assign your thought process to anyone dummy.. GET IT? You sound like an ignorant teenager.. Barney has a forum more up to your speed.. USE IT.

Uh I can say what I want especially considering I see people use the word ****** on here at least 6 times a day

That has got to be one of the clumsiest attempts at playing the race card in an attempt to change the subject I've seen in a while. You're really bad at this.



Has anyone used that word on this thread?

It wasn't the race card. Im white too! And native and Hispanic and have Mongolian ancestors (pretty damn far down the line) but regardless I don't need to play the race card. It was clearly an example to show the extent that users go when exercising their freedom of speech therefor making anything I have said seem harmless in comparison (She said I don't get to assign blah blah blah)


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[LadyGunSlinger]

I have no problem maintaining my emotions, thank you. And you never had to say that. By arguing with me about the lower class losing jobs to illegal immigrants you've proven at least 1 of 3 things..



A. You're content with illegals taking jobs from the growing lower class (probably because you're well off)



B. You're just bored and find things to argue about because you have nothing better to do.



C. You always have to 1-up people, even if they are right/made a valid point because you have a superiority complex.





•Pinky•

STFU and stop making a fool of yourself. You do NOT get to assign your thought process to anyone dummy.. GET IT? You sound like an ignorant teenager.. Barney has a forum more up to your speed.. USE IT.

Uh I can say what I want especially considering I see people use the word ****** on here at least 6 times a day and everything I have said is within the rules provided by the usmb. So why don't change your tampon, take a pamprin, get your panties out of the mangled bunch you've put them in, and quit concerning yourself with me and what I say (that wasn't even directed towards you) before you have a panic attack. Ps. I could really care less what you people think about me and I could care less about any of you. So save yourself the time and energy you keep wasting in your feeble attempt to make yourself look like a badass because I'm more mature than you'll ever be.


•Pinky•

 

[BriannaMichele]

STFU and stop making a fool of yourself. You do NOT get to assign your thought process to anyone dummy.. GET IT? You sound like an ignorant teenager.. Barney has a forum more up to your speed.. USE IT.

Uh I can say what I want especially considering I see people use the word ****** on here at least 6 times a day and everything I have said is within the rules provided by the usmb. So why don't change your tampon, take a pamprin, get your panties out of the mangled bunch you've put them in, and quit concerning yourself with me and what I say (that wasn't even directed towards you) before you have a panic attack. Ps. I could really care less what you people think about me and I could care less about any of you. So save yourself the time and energy you keep wasting in your feeble attempt to make yourself look like a badass because I'm more mature than you'll ever be.





•Pinky•

Yeah I thought it was pretty funny too 😂


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[protectionist]

How about this? If those kids decide that they would like to spend 4 years serving this country in the military (and yes, the language in the military is English, and you have to learn how to obey not only the rules of the military, but those of the current place you happen to be at), they should be given full citizenship.

Me? I served 21 years in the U.S. Navy and defended this country in no less than 4 war zones.

Considering that the current statistics say that only 1 percent (meaning 1 out of 100) people serve this country, I'd be willing to say that someone who does 4 years is more deserving of citizenship than most of the assholes that are protesting them.

How many of those protesters who are telling those kids to go home do you think have actually spent time defending this country in some service, whether it be the military or Border Guard?

I'm guessing not many.

On my last tour in the Navy, I was the LPO (Leading Petty Officer), and head of the MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station) for the Navy in Amarillo from 1999 until 2002. I served with a teacher from Mexico named Casillas who decided he could have a better life here, which is why he enlisted and earned his citizenship after around 6 years.

I've got more respect for Cas than I ever would for someone like Bundy or his ilk. Why? Because Cas actually served (and loved) this country, rather than wanted to suck off the teat of their natural born citizenship.

I'm not comfortable with the idea of giving immigrants jobs in the US military. This is just more immigrants taking jobs away from Americans. Secondly, many immigrants don't have an ounce of respect or loyalty for the USA. Many of them are a risk in US military uniform. This is especially true if they are enlisted just to gain citizenship for themselves.

Of course you're not comfortable with the idea of giving immigrants jobs in the US military.

But then again....................you really don't understand the military. You aren't GIVEN a job, you have to QUALIFY for it. I was a Classifier in the U.S. Navy from 1999 until 2002 (when I retired) and I never gave a job to someone who didn't have the test scores, as well as the requirements to get the job. Why? Because if I did, they would be disqualified as soon as they hit boot camp and their scores and record were checked.

If it's is just more immigrants taking jobs away from Americans, then can you tell me why it is that only 1 percent of the American population is willing to serve in the military?

And speaking of which.......................you stated that those same immigrants who enlisted don't have any loyalty or respect for the USA. Have you ever served? Have you ever been on the front lines? Have you ever been alongside an immigrant who enlisted in a war zone?

I have. Since 1982, and have served with them alongside me until 2002. Yeah.............a lot of them are in it for themselves, because they are hoping that if they can serve a minimum of 5 years (what it was for immigrants while I was serving) they can get citizenship.

How selfish is it to want to gain something for yourself if you're willing to put you ass on the line for others?

Most people who currently ARE U.S. citizens are not willing to serve in the military. Somehow, they think that job is "below" them because they don't get a whole lot of money, nor do they think they should have to put their asses on the line.

Quick question sportcheck...................how many years have YOU served?

I served 6 years in the military. 2 years in the US Army (Fort Dix NJ, Fort Jackson SC, and Fort Leonard Wood MO). After that i served 4 more years in the Army National Guard > 102nd Army Corps of Engineers Battalion, 42nd Infantry Div.), as a 12B20 (Combat Construction Specialist) doing the absolute hardest work there is in America, sunup to sundown, heat or cold, rain or shine. Got 2 honorable discharges.

I don't see what 1% of American serving in the military has to do with it. Any job anywhere in the US that an immigrant takes is one that an American could have had. Maybe all the military spots that immigrants filled would have been filled by Americans if those immigrants weren't there.

And you said yourself > they are hoping to get citizenship. That shouldn't be why someone serves in the US military.

 

[Unkotare]

Uh I can say what I want especially considering I see people use the word ****** on here at least 6 times a day

That has got to be one of the clumsiest attempts at playing the race card in an attempt to change the subject I've seen in a while. You're really bad at this.



Has anyone used that word on this thread?

It wasn't the race card.

Oh no? Sure as hell looked like it. Bringing up how many times you see the 'N' word on this site as a whole on a thread where it has never been used and where it has no bearing on the discussion, so you can try to change the subject looks like a comically failed attempt at playing it.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I'm not comfortable with the idea of giving immigrants jobs in the US military. This is just more immigrants taking jobs away from Americans. Secondly, many immigrants don't have an ounce of respect or loyalty for the USA. Many of them are a risk in US military uniform. This is especially true if they are enlisted just to gain citizenship for themselves.

Of course you're not comfortable with the idea of giving immigrants jobs in the US military.

But then again....................you really don't understand the military. You aren't GIVEN a job, you have to QUALIFY for it. I was a Classifier in the U.S. Navy from 1999 until 2002 (when I retired) and I never gave a job to someone who didn't have the test scores, as well as the requirements to get the job. Why? Because if I did, they would be disqualified as soon as they hit boot camp and their scores and record were checked.

If it's is just more immigrants taking jobs away from Americans, then can you tell me why it is that only 1 percent of the American population is willing to serve in the military?

And speaking of which.......................you stated that those same immigrants who enlisted don't have any loyalty or respect for the USA. Have you ever served? Have you ever been on the front lines? Have you ever been alongside an immigrant who enlisted in a war zone?

I have. Since 1982, and have served with them alongside me until 2002. Yeah.............a lot of them are in it for themselves, because they are hoping that if they can serve a minimum of 5 years (what it was for immigrants while I was serving) they can get citizenship.

How selfish is it to want to gain something for yourself if you're willing to put you ass on the line for others?

Most people who currently ARE U.S. citizens are not willing to serve in the military. Somehow, they think that job is "below" them because they don't get a whole lot of money, nor do they think they should have to put their asses on the line.

Quick question sportcheck...................how many years have YOU served?

I served 6 years in the military. 2 years in the US Army (Fort Dix NJ, Fort Jackson SC, and Fort Leonard Wood MO). After that i served 4 more years in the Army National Guard > 102nd Army Corps of Engineers Battalion, 42nd Infantry Div.), as a 12B20 (Combat Construction Specialist) doing the absolute hardest work there is in America, sunup to sundown, heat or cold, rain or shine. Got 2 honorable discharges.

I don't see what 1% of American serving in the military has to do with it. Any job anywhere in the US that an immigrant takes is one that an American could have had. Maybe all the military spots that immigrants filled would have been filled by Americans if those immigrants weren't there.

And you said yourself > they are hoping to get citizenship. That shouldn't be why someone serves in the US military.

Cool...................you served for 2 terms and still think fondly of it.

Quick question.............how does it feel to be in the one percent of the population that is actually wiling to defend this country? Me? I think it feels pretty good (especially since I did it for 21 years), and am saddened that people from outside this country think it's more important to defend it than those that were actually born here.

And yeah............there are jobs that immigrants will take that Americans never will do.

One of them is the U.S. Military.

I mean..............lots of people think that because they were born here, they don't really have to defend it. I've seen more than a few in my lifetime.

I've also seen those who are immigrants feel that their whole life is dedicated to defending this country, and enlisted and were really good troops.

To tell you the truth, I'd rather have the immigrant who is looking for citizenship by serving in the military watching my 6 rather than some idiot who thinks that being a U.S. Citizen by birth ranks above someone who is foreign born that enlists.

 

[Unkotare]

And yeah............there are jobs that immigrants will take that Americans never will do.

One of them is the U.S. Military.

That makes no sense whatsoever. You're drunk again.

 

[protectionist]

Discussion-the action or process of talking about something, typically in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.

So unless I magically came through your phone, computer, or tablet and punched you in the throat (maybe created by your imagination) this still remains to be a discussion by definition and nothing more you childish, self entitled, pompous ass.


•Pinky•

Quite on target.

 

[ABikerSailor]

And yeah............there are jobs that immigrants will take that Americans never will do.

One of them is the U.S. Military.

That makes no sense whatsoever. You're drunk again.

Actually, it does make sense. There are several jobs that the general populace will never do.

One of them is serving in the U.S. Military. Lots of immigrants are happy to do so, because they are looking for citizenship.

Matter of fact, on of the people I served with got his citizenship serving in the military, and we held a ceremony for him when he finally got his citizenship.

He originally started out as a teacher from Mexico City, and eventually became a U.S. Navy veteran who was a citizen.

And..................if you doubt that the military is one job that many won't do, or are able to do, can you tell me how many of the current Congress (meaning the House of Representatives) or those of the current Senate who have actually served?

Around now, I'm guessing it's less than one percent.

How many years did Ted Cruz serve? How about Boehner or even McConnell?

 

[protectionist]

And yeah............there are jobs that immigrants will take that Americans never will do.

One of them is the U.S. Military.

That makes no sense whatsoever. You're drunk again.

Actually, it does make sense. There are several jobs that the general populace will never do.

One of them is serving in the U.S. Military. Lots of immigrants are happy to do so, because they are looking for citizenship.

Matter of fact, on of the people I served with got his citizenship serving in the military, and we held a ceremony for him when he finally got his citizenship.

He originally started out as a teacher from Mexico City, and eventually became a U.S. Navy veteran who was a citizen.

And..................if you doubt that the military is one job that many won't do, or are able to do, can you tell me how many of the current Congress (meaning the House of Representatives) or those of the current Senate who have actually served?

Around now, I'm guessing it's less than one percent.

How many years did Ted Cruz serve? How about Boehner or even McConnell?

First you said "that Americans never will do" That means NO AMERICANS (None) will ever do those jobs. (US military)

That's why Unkotare said it makes no sense (and he's right)

Then you changed it to >> "that the general populace will never do"
That has an entirely different meaning.