Imagine If The GOP Actually Wanted To Help

[MarcATL]

You want to start holding government accountable?

So are you ready to charge the Bush Admin for war crimes?

Lets start there.

I was for that before you even knew about it, but as always in your partisan heart, you want to 'blame Bush.'

If you are holding chimpola for it, make a spot in the dockett for Hillary, John Kerry and all the other war hawks who wanted war to further their political careers.

As you partisans always forget, the DEMOCRATS controlled the Senate when Chimp began his adventure, and they could have stopped it, but they WANTED IT, until it went sour on them.

When will you hold them accountable?

I am trying to figure out

How is it partisan to blame Bush for the problems he created? I think it is partisan to give George W Bush cover.

The Republicans want to cover up history. They want to cover up the fact that they spent like drunken sailors! They want to cover up the fact they ignored many of the preessing problems facing the middle class, such as health care reform!! And they try to do this by asking, "Why are you complaining about Republican fuck ups!?"

This is basically what they are saying when they ask "Why are you still blaming Bush?"

Just remember this one thing, you crazy lefties. No one will blame you if you do not fuck up. Blame Bush for his misdeeds until he is dead!! Do not let these "annoyed" conservatives fool you!! They are trying to hide from what they have done to this country. Make them pay again this election year!!

Didn't you get the memo dude?

Bush was a SAINT!

 

[hboats]

What would have happened if after Nov. 20 of 08, the GOP had purposed in their heart to work with Obama and the Democrats for the good of the nation? To fix the wrongs of the past 8 years instead of to play political and uber-partisan games trying to win and gain more political capital.

Do you think the HCR Bill would have been so bad?

Why did they WASTE so much time lying, attacking and saying no instead of INVESTING it in attempting to IMPROVE things?

When will they learn? When will they LEAD?

I see you just listen to the media and don't research things for yourself. Heck, even Obama said these things, but was wrong, even though you didn't hear about it in the media.

The facts are out there, I urge you to look for them. The Republicans proposed more than one health care reform bill. Do you know what happened to them? They were dismissed by the Democrat majority without even looking at them. The Republicans tried to get Obama and the Democrats to step off of the bridge on this B.S. health care bill that was passed on Sunday. Do you know what happened? Their pleas fell on deaf ears. The Democrats didn't want to listen. Why? Because as we saw on Sunday, they didn't HAVE to listen. They just passed a mess of a bill without any attempt to straighten out the problems that were in it.

Do you know that one of Obama's major selling points for this bill (no pre-existing conditions for children) isn't even in the bill? Did ANYONE take the time to read this bill that they passed? They don't even know what's in it, but now it's LAW. How stupid is that?

Kids with Pre-Existing Conditions NOT Covered By Obamacare - Greg Pollowitz

Rick

 

[Rinata]

Ever heard of 9/11?

Now tell us who attacked us and whom we invaded/attacked in each of those scenarios

Okay, I'm back.

I made the mistake of holding my breath and ended up passing out.

Did he answer that while I was unconscious?

 

[Rinata]

what would have happened if after nov. 20 of 08, the gop had purposed in their heart to work with obama and the democrats for the good of the nation? To fix the wrongs of the past 8 years instead of to play political and uber-partisan games trying to win and gain more political capital.

Do you think the hcr bill would have been so bad?

Why did they waste so much time lying, attacking and saying no instead of investing it in attempting to improve things?

When will they learn? When will they lead?

obama forgot what he said during his inaugural address.

He said it was time to put aside petty differences....then he proceeded to rub the election into their noses by reminding everyone any chance he gets that the election is over and he won.

This bill is an example of a government that thinks it can get away with anything. Regardless of the will of the people that they refuse to listen to....they pushed it through anyway even though the biggest issue is all of the lost jobs.

This whole mess has been from day-one a fight over the soul of the democratic party. The radicals have won. Now it's up to the people of this country to slap their elitist asses down.

 

[Rinata]

Republicans are protesting because they lost.

They started moaning, crying and screaming from Nov. 20th, 2008 and the water faucets and crocodile tears hasn't ceased since.

Thanks to degenerate war-mongering draft-dodgers like Cheney, Hannity, Rush et al, they've only managed tor RAMP UP the rhetoric, hate and bile in the base of their party.

Keep it up guys...America (and the rest of the world) is on to you.

Continue your decent into the gutter.

They most certainly are.

At least 10 House Democrats are receiving access to increased security after receiving threats linked to their votes on the health care overhaul signed into law on Tuesday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said at a Capitol Hill press conference that he is concerned by a rash of at least four incidents of vandalism targeting lawmakers who voted to approve the legislation, which did not receive any Republican votes.

Concern about possible violence escalated Wednesday after a severed gas line at the home of a Democratic lawmaker's brother was discovered.

The slashed gas line leading to a propane tank at the home of Bo Perriello was found Tuesday, one day after Tea Party activists posted the address online and suggested that opponents of the reform bill should "express their thanks" to Rep. Tom Perriello, D-Va.

The FBI is working with local officials to investigate the incident.

Threats linked to health votes prompt security - Capitol Hill- msnbc.com


I firmly believe that these nuts listen to the likes of Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, and Fox News. They encourage crazy behavior every single day. They won't be happy until something really terrible happens. How could they not know their influence on cuckoos?? Maybe because they are all so damned cuckoo themselves.

 

[Stephanie]

Republicans are protesting because they lost.

They started moaning, crying and screaming from Nov. 20th, 2008 and the water faucets and crocodile tears hasn't ceased since.

Thanks to degenerate war-mongering draft-dodgers like Cheney, Hannity, Rush et al, they've only managed tor RAMP UP the rhetoric, hate and bile in the base of their party.

Keep it up guys...America (and the rest of the world) is on to you.

Continue your decent into the gutter.

They most certainly are.

At least 10 House Democrats are receiving access to increased security after receiving threats linked to their votes on the health care overhaul signed into law on Tuesday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said at a Capitol Hill press conference that he is concerned by a rash of at least four incidents of vandalism targeting lawmakers who voted to approve the legislation, which did not receive any Republican votes.

Concern about possible violence escalated Wednesday after a severed gas line at the home of a Democratic lawmaker's brother was discovered.

The slashed gas line leading to a propane tank at the home of Bo Perriello was found Tuesday, one day after Tea Party activists posted the address online and suggested that opponents of the reform bill should "express their thanks" to Rep. Tom Perriello, D-Va.

The FBI is working with local officials to investigate the incident.

Threats linked to health votes prompt security - Capitol Hill- msnbc.com


I firmly believe that these nuts listen to the likes of Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, and Fox News. They encourage crazy behavior every single day. They won't be happy until something really terrible happens. How could they not know their influence on cuckoos?? Maybe because they are all so damned cuckoo themselves.

no problem, we learned about the gutter from the left when President Bush was in office.

 

[Rinata]

Republicans are protesting because they lost.

They started moaning, crying and screaming from Nov. 20th, 2008 and the water faucets and crocodile tears hasn't ceased since.

Thanks to degenerate war-mongering draft-dodgers like Cheney, Hannity, Rush et al, they've only managed tor RAMP UP the rhetoric, hate and bile in the base of their party.

Keep it up guys...America (and the rest of the world) is on to you.

Continue your decent into the gutter.

They most certainly are.

At least 10 House Democrats are receiving access to increased security after receiving threats linked to their votes on the health care overhaul signed into law on Tuesday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said at a Capitol Hill press conference that he is concerned by a rash of at least four incidents of vandalism targeting lawmakers who voted to approve the legislation, which did not receive any Republican votes.

Concern about possible violence escalated Wednesday after a severed gas line at the home of a Democratic lawmaker's brother was discovered.

The slashed gas line leading to a propane tank at the home of Bo Perriello was found Tuesday, one day after Tea Party activists posted the address online and suggested that opponents of the reform bill should "express their thanks" to Rep. Tom Perriello, D-Va.

The FBI is working with local officials to investigate the incident.

Threats linked to health votes prompt security - Capitol Hill- msnbc.com


I firmly believe that these nuts listen to the likes of Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, and Fox News. They encourage crazy behavior every single day. They won't be happy until something really terrible happens. How could they not know their influence on cuckoos?? Maybe because they are all so damned cuckoo themselves.

no problem, we learned about the gutter from the left when President Bush was in office.

Steph, as usual your post contains no useful information at all. Just something you have said a million times and it is subjective on top of it.

What is going on in the country right now is very serious. You either support it or you're too stupid to see it. I think I can guess which one.

 

[rdean]

What would have happened if after Nov. 20 of 08, the GOP had purposed in their heart to work with Obama and the Democrats for the good of the nation? To fix the wrongs of the past 8 years instead of to play political and uber-partisan games trying to win and gain more political capital.

Do you think the HCR Bill would have been so bad?

Why did they WASTE so much time lying, attacking and saying no instead of INVESTING it in attempting to IMPROVE things?

When will they learn? When will they LEAD?

You're not asking the white question.

 

[GilbertArizona]

Being that the vote was so darn close I don't blame the Republicans for not working with the Democrats. In hindsight it would have been nice if the Democrats would have had to use up some political capital to get Republicans on board. With the Bush tax cuts set to expire and Obama not having to do any horse trading with Republicans to get Healthcare reform through, the Democrats are sitting pretty by still holding the tax cut trump cards. I can imagine such things as the Democracts saying to GOP that, "if you value continuing the lowered inheritance tax then work with us on passing amnesty for illegal citizens".

 

[Gunny]

Being that the vote was so darn close I don't blame the Republicans for not working with the Democrats. In hindsight it would have been nice if the Democrats would have had to use up some political capital to get Republicans on board. With the Bush tax cuts set to expire and Obama not having to do any horse trading with Republicans to get Healthcare reform through, the Democrats are sitting pretty by still holding the tax cut trump cards. I can imagine such things as the Democracts saying to GOP that, "if you value continuing the lowered inheritance tax then work with us on passing amnesty for illegal citizens".

Political bartering? Say it ain't so .....

 

[Old Rocks]

Don't need to bargain on the tax issue. We have massive deficits. resulting from two unfunded wars. And the very near Second Great Republican Depression. Taxes must be raised. And who better to raise them on than the people who nearly put us into that Depression.

 

[Gunny]

Don't need to bargain on the tax issue. We have massive deficits. resulting from two unfunded wars. And the very near Second Great Republican Depression. Taxes must be raised. And who better to raise them on than the people who nearly put us into that Depression.

Ummm ... wrong. Those two "unfunded" wars that were funded have nothing to do with the Obama lama going into the red in 14 months more than Bush did in 8 years.

You lefties are kinda suckin' hind tit tonight. Want to bring out the deflections and insults and lies since that's the only way you get over, or what?

 

[Avatar4321]

Don't need to bargain on the tax issue. We have massive deficits. resulting from two unfunded wars. And the very near Second Great Republican Depression. Taxes must be raised. And who better to raise them on than the people who nearly put us into that Depression.

That makes sense. We have huge deficits so let's decrease the revenue to the treasury by increasing taxes. Totally logical.

 

[Harry Dresden]

'Et Tu' is a fallacy.

Saying that the Dems, who made the mistake of believing what thew Bush Administration told them went along with the Republican desire for war doesn't excuse the Republicans' actions.

it doesn't excuse the Democrats either.....

I never said it did. I'd love to see the bastards in both parties tarred, feathered, whippped, and exiled.

starting with the Speaker.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

You favor mob rule?
A democracy is the last form of government we need. How do you form a democracy with 50 states?

We have mob rule now, teh majority spits on the minority and ignores everything it says.

Actually, we have a corporate oligarchy, but don't let reality get in the way of your tirade.

i dont know why that dipshit MarcATL is thanking you....he only believes this corporate oligarchy controls the Republicans....somehow the Democrats are not controlled by these guys....of course he probably believes that only the GOOD Corps. influence the Dems.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

When will they learn? When will they LEAD?

A question you will be asking a lot in November, as the dictatorship ends.

So you recognize Pelosi as a Dictator--because Obama is not leaving this November!!

is Pelosi leaving?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

imho Bush should be tried for treason for lying to the American people and getting us into this war.

Well then, you had better try all the following as well because they all spewed the same things PRIOR to and after Bush took office:

Edwards, Kerry, Kennedy, Berger, Albright, Powell, Clinton (both), Pelosi, Reid, Rangle, Gore, Lieberman, Levin, Dashcle, Byrd, Bob Graham, Rockefeller, Waxman, etc.

somehow these other people dont count......all Bush is guilty of is stupidly acting upon it to the point of invading....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Republicans are protesting because they lost.

They started moaning, crying and screaming from Nov. 20th, 2008 and the water faucets and crocodile tears hasn't ceased since.

Thanks to degenerate war-mongering draft-dodgers like Cheney, Hannity, Rush et al, they've only managed tor RAMP UP the rhetoric, hate and bile in the base of their party.

Keep it up guys...America (and the rest of the world) is on to you.

Continue your decent into the gutter.

Marc your pretty dumb....the Dems NEVER moaned and cried the 8 years Bush and the Repubs were in office?......quit being a Hack...both sides suck....someday hopefully you will see it....

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Republicans are protesting because they lost.

They started moaning, crying and screaming from Nov. 20th, 2008 and the water faucets and crocodile tears hasn't ceased since.

Thanks to degenerate war-mongering draft-dodgers like Cheney, Hannity, Rush et al, they've only managed tor RAMP UP the rhetoric, hate and bile in the base of their party.

Keep it up guys...America (and the rest of the world) is on to you.

Continue your decent into the gutter.

Marc your pretty dumb....the Dems NEVER moaned and cried the 8 years Bush and the Repubs were in office?......quit being a Hack...both sides suck....someday hopefully you will see it....

Both Sides?

What sides are those? If you're speaking Political Parties... then there are no 'sides'.

The tragedy of the American story is that the system is designed around politics... OKA: compromise... Thus the net affect of the system is that Two polar Ideologies... represented by the Masculine Ideological Right; AKA: the Republicans; Advocating Individual Rights & Responsibility; Adherence to, recognition of and respect for the US Constitution and the immutable principles in nature on which America rests; and the Feminine Ideological Wrong... OKA: The Democrats... who advocate for rationalizations to reject, obscure, undermine and destroy any notion of principle or any facet of responsibility across the spectrum of the culture from that of the responsiblity to the collective.

At the end of the day; the ideologies oppose; while the politics attract... and the false premise that the Wrong has a valid point and the Right has a valid point and the best result of a compromise; brings the certainty that where the ideas of the Right and Wrong merge, that this is the best possible result...

The problem is that when Right and Wrong compromise, the outcome will always and can only result in the further decadence which comes with advancing the errors inherent in wrong...

This isn't particularly complex...

Wrong trumps right... Every time. A solution which is half right and half wrong doesn't produce a linear progression... it produces a declination.

Imagine that the course of a nation is charted on a horizon line... The maximum result, if all policy advanced in goverance sustains the culture, maximizes individual liberty, which produces maximum economic productivity; all of which leads to a collective increase in lifestyle and freedom, etc... is that the line progresses along the horizon.

Where policy undermines the standards which sustain individual liberty, thus decreases economic performance, leading to collective decrease in lifestyle, Freedom, etc... the line declines...

At every point where one compromises... the line declines. There's no means to return to the level of the origination without destroying the paradigm... because to do so requires violent revolution; where the advocates are wrong are stripped of their liberty... including their lives.

Thus the fallacy of compromise... as some noble solution.

There was no good idea behind Social Security... Medicare didn't have a good point... Medicaid and Welfare aren't serving a noble, necessary, needed purpose.

These and the balance of the Social Services, Entitlments and what have you are simply wrong. They represent policy which set aside sound, sustainable principle... and as is a 100% certainty... EVERYTIME ya do so, you can expect it to come around and bite ya in the end.

These programs are finished... they've been finished for decades; and it is a profound delusion that has prevented the culture from recognizing such... It's ironic that the Wrong Ideology; which is FOUNDED UPON and which prides itself in it's adherence to SOCIAL SCIENCE! Is the same ideology which can not come to grips and rejects to the extent of their BEINGS... simple mathematics which proves at every level that none of those programs are sustainable. They're ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN, that psychology and women's studies are INCONTROVBERTIBLE SCIENCE...

But no amount of effort to explain that it simply is not possible to regulate a declining per capita income and increase per capita liabilities can convince the Wrongists, that the only potential outcome; all that one can reasonable expect from that simple equation, is for the system so regulated to crash and burn...

So we compromise... by adding exponential per capita liability to a regulated declination in per capita income. Which if ya graph it out... looks alot like this: \

And THAT kids is from where the misnomer: "They're all the same..." comes.

In truth, 'they' are not all the same... There are millions of Americans who advocate for Right... but there simply no way to compromise with WRONG and not have the solution which comes from such a compromise by anything BUT: WRONG.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

We have mob rule now, teh majority spits on the minority and ignores everything it says.

Actually, we have a corporate oligarchy, but don't let reality get in the way of your tirade.

i dont know why that dipshit MarcATL is thanking you....he only believes this corporate oligarchy controls the Republicans....somehow the Democrats are not controlled by these guys....of course he probably believes that only the GOOD Corps. influence the Dems.....

To be honest, if it weren't for the parentheses, I couldn't tell the parties apart most of the time. It's not like either sticks to any core values or principles or consistently stands for much of anything.