He certainly messed up a lot.
I guess it's how you define failing. But then I'm not the one making the case for failing.
Bush invaded Iraq and led up to ISIS. Is that failing? On the part of the right, I'd say that'd be called success having a new common enemy so entrenched now that it's impossible to change things.
It does put all US citizens' lives in danger, but I guess it's the price you pay to have the right being more successful, isn't it?
Wrong, it was Obama that withdrew unprepared and early by the Bush terms, but still a year after his promise, that gave strength to ISIS.
You should care if people don't believe your independent schtick because we rely on your words which betray you. If I were to beleive you, then your attempts to be objective are so bad they have deemed you completely un objective.
By fail, conservatives hope and are glad to see his progressive agenda fall on its face because that is not good for the country. The ACA, for example was bought and pushed through like a crook. Honest liberals know this and are grateful for the strong arm tactics used. It's a failure so far, and that's good. He ruled be decree several times now on that fiasco alone. By is drones killed Americans without due process and without congressional input, after he declared the Global war in terror over.
Obama Global War on Terror Is Over - US News
He lied about shovel ready, but made billions disappear in the process.
Again, this is just the tip of the iceberg and if you were honest you would already know the issues. Why debate over and over again the facts when what really matters to you is defending him? He has failed you, libs and progressives. Good, I'm glad for that.
Who was talking about withdrawing? The shit was twirling around the fan when Obama came into office.
Bush made a power vacuum that was nicely filled by those evil terrorists Bush wants the right to be tough on, Obama came in and pulled out based on a timetable Bush had set up, not that it made much difference.
He could have kept US troops for longer, given terrorists more chance to kill more US troops which is what they're praying will happen again.
Obama is reacting to events way beyond his control.
You say I'm not independent, whatever. I'm left wing, but I still wouldn't vote for the two parties. I'd prefer Obama to Bush any day of the week though. I'd much prefer a better system, hence why I would't vote either, oh, and the fact they're corrupt puppets.
Also, I didn't say Obama was perfect, I didn't say he was even great.
Non-Americans asked me once he was elected before he had taken office what would change. They thought the change thing was true. I said nothing. Nothing much has changed.
Has Obama failed? No, it's still the same, nothing's changed. Is that failure? Did he set out to change the world? Not really, he set out to become president in the biggest popularity contest in the US. So what?
things go wrong, corruption happens, problems arise, any different to any other presidency ever? Nope.
So what do you want me to say?
You're not proving he's failed, you're proving some things haven't been great, is that a failure of his presidency? No.
Not even Bush "failed", unless of course you want to redefine failure for me. Some things he did that many people didn't like, he got loads of people killed and so on, failure? He got richer, Cheney got richer, the right had a nice enemy to hate even more, more people got killed. Success, right? For him, not for me. Now I live in a more unstable world. But why does he give a shit about me?
