Illegal Employer Problem

[Harry Dresden]

So, I am not as old as you. But I have seen several decades pass.


And though most of that time, we discussed how to handle illegals.

Back and forth, around and around,

and nothing was ever really DONE. And the problem just grew and grew.


NOW, we are doing something. we ARE making progress.


The way you frame your question, as if we should do that, INSTEAD of what we are doign now,


is the answer.


You want to keep NOT addressing the problem. YOu want to TALK about it.

If you had instead framed your question as "let us ADD this to what we are doing" to fix the problem faster and better, I might be convinced of your sincerity.

BUT, instead, i think that what you really want, is to allow teh illegals to not only stay, but to keep coming.


It makes America more diverse, less white and thus more open to your lib agenda.


maga is deporting, adn deporting A LOT. We are not stopping.

You want to discuss going after the employers, try talking to your fellow dems. Plenty of states that could address that issue, states with dems in charge.


NO reason to worry about what the feds are doing. You want to do it? I am not stopping you.

Hell, if my state tries it, i will support it too.

bobo isnt several decades old..??

 

[Correll]

ICE has been raiding MANY places of employment over the past 12 months particularly.

You'd think the libs would be overjoyous.

But what they want is NO enforcement.

A couple of years ago, libs were peevish that states like Texas were enforcing immigration, they said it was the Federal Government's duty, not the state.

Now the feds are taking the initiative, they are peevish and want rogue states like Minnesota to take the lead
Why can't libs be honest and admit they want open borders.

Becasue they know that if they are honest about what htey want and who they are,

that they would never win another election.

 

[sealybobo]

That's what President Trump and Czar Homan have been doing.

They have been raiding Home Depot parking lots to nab illegals right in the employment markets.

That's not what I'm talking about. Meat Poultry factories. Go inside the business. They are hiring illegal workers to save money. And we know who they are.

You're just talking about illegals standing outside of Home Depot. You're just putting a dent in the problem. A small small fraction.

And it's funny because those people outside Home Depot are just helping average people. You guys wouldn't dare bother corporations aka illegal employers.

And you're going to prove it to Correll. You don't really want to solve the problem.

 

[sealybobo]

So, I am not as old as you. But I have seen several decades pass.


And though most of that time, we discussed how to handle illegals.

Back and forth, around and around,

and nothing was ever really DONE. And the problem just grew and grew.


NOW, we are doing something. we ARE making progress.


The way you frame your question, as if we should do that, INSTEAD of what we are doign now,


is the answer.


You want to keep NOT addressing the problem. YOu want to TALK about it.

If you had instead framed your question as "let us ADD this to what we are doing" to fix the problem faster and better, I might be convinced of your sincerity.

BUT, instead, i think that what you really want, is to allow teh illegals to not only stay, but to keep coming.


It makes America more diverse, less white and thus more open to your lib agenda.


maga is deporting, adn deporting A LOT. We are not stopping.

You want to discuss going after the employers, try talking to your fellow dems. Plenty of states that could address that issue, states with dems in charge.


NO reason to worry about what the feds are doing. You want to do it? I am not stopping you.

Hell, if my state tries it, i will support it too.

Ha! All the legal immigrations down in Florida love Trump. So we don't win over these ethnics once they are in and legal. They tend to be very conservative people and they easily fall for Trump's shit.

Yes, I want Trump to do what he's doing now AND go after illegal employers. He can even be kind to them. Don't find them too much. Don't shut them down. Just take all their illegal employees from them and now they have to hire Americans. AND pay more.

I'm with you bro. Let's not argue about this. I'm on your side right now.

 

[Correll]

Ha! All the legal immigrations down in Florida love Trump. So we don't win over these ethnics once they are in and legal. They tend to be very conservative people and they easily fall for Trump's shit.

If hispanics voted consistently republican, you dems would have machine gun nests set up allong the border, and you know it.

Yes, I want Trump to do what he's doing now AND go after illegal employers. He can even be kind to them. Don't find them too much. Don't shut them down. Just take all their illegal employees from them and now they have to hire Americans. AND pay more.

I'm with you bro. Let's not argue about this. I'm on your side right now.

OK, then buddy. Fine. LIke I said, it doesn't have to be Trump.

Call you dem governors and mayors, tell them to start it.

 

[sealybobo]

If hispanics voted consistently republican, you dems would have machine gun nests set up allong the border, and you know it.







OK, then buddy. Fine. LIke I said, it doesn't have to be Trump.

Call you dem governors and mayors, tell them to start it.

Nonsense. That's why I think you guys are silly suggesting we want illegals in so we can win elections. Is that working for us?

I remember during Bush white people became 49% of the population. I thought for sure now Democrats would start winning all elections and Republicans would have to change their approach or they would never win elections again. But then Trump came along and fooled a very large percentage of Hispanics.

You know I live near Dearborn, MI right? ARABS voted for Trump. Why? Because Biden wasn't being tough enough on Israel. LOL. Now they are PISSED that Trump's COMPLETELY on Israel's side. LOL. ******* ignorant minorites. They'll fit right in here. LOL.

 

[hadit]

ICE has been raiding MANY places of employment over the past 12 months particularly.

You'd think the libs would be overjoyous.

But what they want is NO enforcement.

A couple of years ago, libs were peevish that states like Texas were enforcing immigration, they said it was the Federal Government's duty, not the state.

Now the feds are taking the initiative, they are peevish and want rogue states like Minnesota to take the lead.

Why can't libs be honest and admit they want open borders.

I don't even think they honestly want that. I believe that their problem is Orange Man. I believe they would applaud if it was Obama or Quid Pro Joe doing this.

 

[sealybobo]

ICE has been raiding MANY places of employment over the past 12 months particularly.

You'd think the libs would be overjoyous.

But what they want is NO enforcement.

A couple of years ago, libs were peevish that states like Texas were enforcing immigration, they said it was the Federal Government's duty, not the state.

Now the feds are taking the initiative, they are peevish and want rogue states like Minnesota to take the lead.

Why can't libs be honest and admit they want open borders.

Have they? I haven't heard a word about it. All I see is them picking on illegals outside.

Can you name some companies that have been raided?

 

[sealybobo]

I don't even think they honestly want that. I believe that their problem is Orange Man. I believe they would applaud if it was Obama or Quid Pro Joe doing this.

I don't think Republicans honestly want this. That's my point.

We wanted this in the 2000's. You guys didn't. And honestly, I still don't think you want that.

Ever notice when illegals are caught working in some company, you guys never bash the employer. You accept their excuse. They were given fake documents. Bullshit.

Remember Mollie Tibbetts was murdered by an illegal in a red state working on a Republicans farm? At first he said he used Everify, that turned out to not be true.

Like I said before if Trump told you to be mad at these illegal employers, you would. But because i'm saying it, you will argue. Prick.

We sounded a lot like you guys back in 2006

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration" they are promoting one of Karl Rove's most potent Republican Party frames.

www.thomhartmann.com

 

[Polishprince]

Have they? I haven't heard a word about it. All I see is them picking on illegals outside.

Can you name some companies that have been raided?

How about Emiliano's in Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania?

Emiliano's: Agents left behind 'trail of destruction' | 16 people detained by ICE

The restaurant posted on their social media platforms that federal agents "stormed our restaurant in a show of force that went far beyond anything reasonable or humane.

www.wtae.com

 

[Polishprince]

Have they? I haven't heard a word about it. All I see is them picking on illegals outside.

Can you name some companies that have been raided?

How about 9 massage parlors in Baton Rouge, Louisiana?

ICE detains 10 workers at Baton Rouge massage parlors

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has conducted worksite inspections at nine illicit massage businesses in Baton Rouge.

www.wafb.com

 

[Polishprince]

Have they? I haven't heard a word about it. All I see is them picking on illegals outside.

Can you name some companies that have been raided?

How about El Tapatio restaurant in Minnesota?

ICE Agents Ate at a Mexican Restaurant in a Small Town. After Their Meal, They Detained Employees

A group of ICE agents sat down to eat lunch at El Tapatio, a family-owned Mexican restaurant in Willmar, Minn., and then returned hours later to detain the restaurant's employees.

people.com

 

[sealybobo]

How about Emiliano's in Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania?

Emiliano's: Agents left behind 'trail of destruction' | 16 people detained by ICE

The restaurant posted on their social media platforms that federal agents "stormed our restaurant in a show of force that went far beyond anything reasonable or humane.

www.wtae.com

16 employees? Like I said, a mere token.

"During the execution of the search warrants, 16 individuals were encountered and found to be illegally present in the United States.

But, I was trying to find a better company for them to raid and this is encouraging

Tyson Foods Inc., which employs almost 100,000 people at locations throughout the United States, is the first major food company to become a full member of ICE's IMAGE program.

IMAGE is a voluntary program that allows businesses to partner with ICE as part of their efforts to maintain an authorized workforce and protect themselves from the use of fraudulent identity documents by current or prospective employees. This program compliments ICE's worksite enforcement strategy, which focuses on holding employers accountable who knowingly hire unauthorized workers to minimize operating costs and boost profits.

 

[Polishprince]

16 employees? Like I said, a mere token.

"During the execution of the search warrants, 16 individuals were encountered and found to be illegally present in the United States.

But, I was trying to find a better company for them to raid and this is encouraging

Tyson Foods Inc., which employs almost 100,000 people at locations throughout the United States, is the first major food company to become a full member of ICE's IMAGE program.

IMAGE is a voluntary program that allows businesses to partner with ICE as part of their efforts to maintain an authorized workforce and protect themselves from the use of fraudulent identity documents by current or prospective employees. This program compliments ICE's worksite enforcement strategy, which focuses on holding employers accountable who knowingly hire unauthorized workers to minimize operating costs and boost profits.

Tyson cooperates with ICE to purge illegals from its employment rolls.

Emiliano's doesn't.

See the difference?

 

[Correll]

Nonsense. That's why I think you guys are silly suggesting we want illegals in so we can win elections. Is that working for us?

Yes. Of course. It has worked a lot. You have not won the white vote since Johnson, and you have made up that failure by pandering to non-white groups.

I remember during Bush white people became 49% of the population. I thought for sure now Democrats would start winning all elections and Republicans would have to change their approach or they would never win elections again. But then Trump came along and fooled a very large percentage of Hispanics.

Save teh spin for you fellow leftards, old man.

Losing by less, is not a winning strategy. Which is why you are trying to sell your line of jive ass bullshit.

Is this really who you want a be a jive ass shit talker?

You know I live near Dearborn, MI right? ARABS voted for Trump. Why? Because Biden wasn't being tough enough on Israel. LOL. Now they are PISSED that Trump's COMPLETELY on Israel's side. LOL. ******* ignorant minorites. They'll fit right in here. LOL.

So, good chance that next election they will come back to you. Which is why you are still talking shit trying to sell the idea of massive turd world immigration.

Because you know that, with their non-american, shit hole political and cultural backgrounds, they are more likely to vote for you, then the people that build the greatest nation in the world.

And you can see no downside to that. NOTHING.

Also, no red flags. That you want to import people with a terrible political culture, to support you. NOPE, that makes complete sense to you.

 

[sealybobo]

That's what President Trump and Czar Homan have been doing.

They have been raiding Home Depot parking lots to nab illegals right in the employment markets.

I'm starting to agree. Send a message. That's what gets them to leave. Or stop coming. Even if it's just token raids to small business', it sends a message.

God damn I'm becoming a ******* republican! I was watching the National Championship and Trump was there. But of course everyone cheered how much were tickets? Only elites were at that game. LOL.

See what makes America great? The freedom to have stupid liberal ideas and say them out loud. LOL

 

[sealybobo]

Tyson cooperates with ICE to purge illegals from its employment rolls.

Emiliano's doesn't.

See the difference?

Yes. And I won't continue to point out they used to knowingly hire them. So did Trump. But they ain't no mo. LOL.

Sorry illegals. Even legal Hispanics don't give a ****. My new Cuban girlfriend loves Trump. If she can love him, so can I. LOL!!!

 

[sealybobo]

Yes. Of course. It has worked a lot. You have not won the white vote since Johnson, and you have made up that failure by pandering to non-white groups.




Save teh spin for you fellow leftards, old man.

Losing by less, is not a winning strategy. Which is why you are trying to sell your line of jive ass bullshit.

Is this really who you want a be a jive ass shit talker?





So, good chance that next election they will come back to you. Which is why you are still talking shit trying to sell the idea of massive turd world immigration.

Because you know that, with their non-american, shit hole political and cultural backgrounds, they are more likely to vote for you, then the people that build the greatest nation in the world.

And you can see no downside to that. NOTHING.

Also, no red flags. That you want to import people with a terrible political culture, to support you. NOPE, that makes complete sense to you.

Hey, I feel beaten down. You know the saying I'm going to POUND some sense into you? I feel like that's what you MAGA have done to me. I'm starting to wake up. It's a new dawn, it's a new day, and I feel good!!!

But this happened before. Right after 9-11. Will it last? I doubt it. BUT, I'm rich enough if it doesn't work out, just like Reaganomics didn't work out, I won't suffer.

OH, and don't worry if you are broke and 65. Just move to ******* Florida. The medicare fraud here is out of control. My crack head neighbor has maids daily, drivers to take her to physical therapy, food delivered so often she tells them to STOP BRINGING THEM. Depends diapers she doesn't need. I'm taking them to my aunt and uncles house if she ever gets out of the rehab/hospital, she's going to need them. She has Humana and doesn't have it as good as the crack head next door. I guess you have to know how to milk the system to the max. Crack head over here has a sister who's paying her bills from California. Her husband is a doctor so they know how to milk the system to the max. Fuckers. I hope MAGA goes after medicare/medicaid fraud hard next.

JD VANCE, JD VANCE!

 

[Hafar1014]

Nonsense. That's why I think you guys are silly suggesting we want illegals in so we can win elections. Is that working for us?

I remember during Bush white people became 49% of the population. I thought for sure now Democrats would start winning all elections and Republicans would have to change their approach or they would never win elections again. But then Trump came along and fooled a very large percentage of Hispanics.

You know I live near Dearborn, MI right? ARABS voted for Trump. Why? Because Biden wasn't being tough enough on Israel. LOL. Now they are PISSED that Trump's COMPLETELY on Israel's side. LOL. ******* ignorant minorites. They'll fit right in here. LOL.

MEXICO’S ELECTION PLOT UNMASKED: How Mexico’s 50+ Consulates Are Running Shadow Campaign to Sway U.S. Elections

Mexico’s consulates across the United States are running a shadow campaign to bend American elections in favor of Mexican interests, Peter Schweizer reveals in his new book, "The Invisible Coup: How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon."

www.breitbart.com

With more than 50 consulates in the U.S. today, Schweizer writes, the Mexican government “is blatantly interfering in our domestic politics, working with American political advisors to turn legal and illegal migrants inside the US into a political force to wield for their benefit.”

In particular, Schweizer writes, the Mexican government sends about a million textbooks to American schools every year to teach its version of U.S. history, among other subjects.

MEXICO’S ELECTION PLOT UNMASKED: How Mexico’s 50+ Consulates Are Running Shadow Campaign to Sway U.S. Elections​

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ALFREDO ESTRELLA/AFP via Getty Images
John Binder19 Jan 20262,741
3:48
Mexico’s consulates across the United States are running a shadow campaign to bend American elections in favor of Mexican interests, #1 New York Times bestselling investigative journalist and Breitbart News Senior Contributor Peter Schweizer writes in his new book, The Invisible Coup: How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon.


With more than 50 consulates in the U.S. today, Schweizer writes, the Mexican government “is blatantly interfering in our domestic politics, working with American political advisors to turn legal and illegal migrants inside the US into a political force to wield for their benefit.”

In particular, Schweizer writes, the Mexican government sends about a million textbooks to American schools every year to teach its version of U.S. history, among other subjects.


Likewise, for Mexican-American adults in the U.S., Mexico’s consulates offer such courses, which Schweizer writes is not meant to help assimilate Mexican migrants to American life.


Perhaps most consequential are the mass protests that Mexico’s consulates help stage in the U.S., Schweizer writes, designed to combat anti-illegal immigration policies:

Mexico, working with its domestic allies, has staged successful mass protests. During the spring of 2007, hundreds of thousands of protestors took to the streets across America in multiple marches to defend illegal immigrants. They blocked roads, carrying Mexican, Salvadoran, Guatemalan, or Dominican flags. The chants reflected a presumption of the right to become citizens regardless of their host country’s laws. “‘Today we march, tomorrow we vote’ and ‘We didn’t cross the border; the border crossed us.’” An astonishing 3.5 million to 5 million people participated in the marches in twenty cities over a couple of months.107 While many Americans were shocked by the political display, radicals noted with pleasure “the highly organized protest against the exclusionary model of citizenship. It worked: the bill raising illegal immigration to a felony died in the Senate.

 

[sealybobo]

MEXICO’S ELECTION PLOT UNMASKED: How Mexico’s 50+ Consulates Are Running Shadow Campaign to Sway U.S. Elections

Mexico’s consulates across the United States are running a shadow campaign to bend American elections in favor of Mexican interests, Peter Schweizer reveals in his new book, "The Invisible Coup: How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon."

www.breitbart.com

With more than 50 consulates in the U.S. today, Schweizer writes, the Mexican government “is blatantly interfering in our domestic politics, working with American political advisors to turn legal and illegal migrants inside the US into a political force to wield for their benefit.”

In particular, Schweizer writes, the Mexican government sends about a million textbooks to American schools every year to teach its version of U.S. history, among other subjects.

MEXICO’S ELECTION PLOT UNMASKED: How Mexico’s 50+ Consulates Are Running Shadow Campaign to Sway U.S. Elections​

1,468

ALFREDO ESTRELLA/AFP via Getty Images
John Binder19 Jan 20262,741
3:48
Mexico’s consulates across the United States are running a shadow campaign to bend American elections in favor of Mexican interests, #1 New York Times bestselling investigative journalist and Breitbart News Senior Contributor Peter Schweizer writes in his new book, The Invisible Coup: How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon.


With more than 50 consulates in the U.S. today, Schweizer writes, the Mexican government “is blatantly interfering in our domestic politics, working with American political advisors to turn legal and illegal migrants inside the US into a political force to wield for their benefit.”

In particular, Schweizer writes, the Mexican government sends about a million textbooks to American schools every year to teach its version of U.S. history, among other subjects.


Likewise, for Mexican-American adults in the U.S., Mexico’s consulates offer such courses, which Schweizer writes is not meant to help assimilate Mexican migrants to American life.


Perhaps most consequential are the mass protests that Mexico’s consulates help stage in the U.S., Schweizer writes, designed to combat anti-illegal immigration policies:

There is too much truth to what you say for me to argue. So Trump is going to use these facts to push this agenda. Fine. You and I are too old to have to go to war if that's where the GOP takes us. And perhaps this is the time for us to re establish ourselves on the world stage.

Let's see how I feel in November. I'm starting to come around. **** everyone else. I'm going to be like you boomers.