Admiral Rockwell Tory
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Exactly.Then it is the parents choosing to separate their family if they abandon their child here.
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Exactly.Then it is the parents choosing to separate their family if they abandon their child here.
His call.For those who give this a moment of thought, if "we" deport this bastard, we are not breaking up his family. He should take his son with him, and if he doesn't then HE is breaking up the family, not the Government.
It is long past time to end birthright citizenship. It is the Democrats who love it because the more government-dependent bastards we have as citizens, the better it is for them.
The Left is evil.
Neither parent nor guardian requested asylum. His father wanted him back. Yeah, it sucked for the kid, but the law is the law. Clinton's administration did the right thing.The law says if your parent or legal guardian asks for asylum then they have to consider it.
But the Clinton Adm was doing favors for their commie friends in Cuba.....so Elian had to go back.
If they end up in the streets, it will be on the streets of their home country. No optics here. If they return and and up on the streets, we'll, how stupid can they be.My point was, if an illegal family is doing well here in America, and then they are deported and then end up in the streets, that will be a problem in optics for republicans
Trump will not deport US citizens. He can't. Why are you even bothering with this statement?Sure, and it's one thing to not be in a position of power and say something, and another to be in a position to effect change.
If trump starts deporting babies, that are US citizens, the republican party will take a hit that they likely won't recover from for a very long time.
This idiot is going to be one of the first illegals to leave.
He may even self-deport before Trump takes office.
Demanding $20,000 to leave the US isn't a smart move when it comes to Trump.
Sure, and it's one thing to not be in a position of power and say something, and another to be in a position to effect change.
If trump starts deporting babies, that are US citizens, the republican party will take a hit that they likely won't recover from for a very long time.
Who is going to report on it? The lame stream media doesn't give two shits about illegals being sent home once they are of no use politically.My point was, if an illegal family is doing well here in America, and then they are deported and then end up in the streets, that will be a problem in optics for republicans
Trump will not deport US citizens. He can't. Why are you even bothering with this statement?
There was no legal guardian. The mother was deceased. The child was staying with relatives none of whom had guardianship. Father, did not give permission for mother to take the child, She was essentially a parental kidnapper. There was no choice but to return the child to his father.The law says if your parent or legal guardian asks for asylum then they have to consider it.
But the Clinton Adm was doing favors for their commie friends in Cuba.....so Elian had to go back.
My God, you are terminally confused. The case was United Staes V. Wong Kim ArkThat's the very case I was referencing. That supreme court ruled that diplomates who have a child born on US soil does not give citizenship to that child. And being subject to US laws according to the 14th amendment.
You have just made an excellent case for ending birthright citizenship.I'm not falling for any hype. I'm just being a realist. Trump my not run again but there will be another republicans who want to run, and the left will spare no expense to make sure that candidate is linked to trump policies.
I'm with you guys on illegal immigration, it needs to stop, but I'm telling you, the American government is not going to deport babies, who are American citizens, and they are not going to force them into adoption by deporting their parents.
This is not acquiescing to the left, this is just my view of what I think is going to happen, based on what I feel the American public is willing to accept
The Constitution is not to be interpreted phrase by phrase, equal weight is required to comprehend the full context and benefit for the citizens. It goes back to that 'not a suicide pact'.Already determined. There would be an immediate backlash to reinterpret such a very simple phrase. Those "not subject to the jurisdiction thereof" are here for diplomatic purposes and have immunity. There's about 125 years of case law that would be thrown on its ear. You really should read up on the topic.
Numbnuts never use wiki the edit as you go source. Furthermore numbnuts Wong entered the country in a recognized port of entry. He did not enter the country illegally.My God, you are terminally confused. The case was United Staes V. Wong Kim Ark
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), was a landmark decision[4] of the U.S. Supreme Court which held that "a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China",[5] automatically became a U.S. citizen at birth.[6] This decision established an important precedent in its interpretation of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.[7]
United States v. Wong Kim Ark - Wikipedia
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The case was resolved that he was a US citizen because he was born here, and not the child of diplomats.
WTF? Wong Kim Ark was born in the United States. He never entered through a port of entry unless his mother's birth canal was registered as such. I used a resource that you could find which backed up my knowledge of studying the case in my educational law class in graduate school. Can you top that? Apparently, you suck at that since you think he entered through a port of entry.Numbnuts never use wiki the edit as you go source. Furthermore numbnuts Wong entered the country in a recognized port of entry. He did not enter the country illegally.
Yes numbnuts what the **** are you smoking? Nothing in my comment is wrong. Children born to diplomates on U.S. soil are not U.S. citizens and those who are not subject to the laws of the U.S. are not citizens illegals are not subjects to our laws.WTF? Wong Kim Ark was born in the United States. He never entered through a port of entry unless his mother's birth canal was registered as such. I used a resource that you could find which backed up my knowledge of studying the case in my educational law class in graduate school. Can you top that? Apparently, you suck at that since you think he entered through a port of entry.
You should never argue my specialties like Constitutional law, government, mathematics, or education. I know my shit as that was my career for most of my life.
Just making this video demonstrates just how screwed up things are.
I mean, c'mon dude.


The 14th Amendment has not a ******* thing to do with their parents, you dipshit! You keep posting what I said in my initial post as if it is something new or relevant. It's not!Yes numbnuts what the **** are you smoking? Nothing in my comment is wrong. Children born to diplomates on U.S. soil are not U.S. citizens and those who are not subject to the laws of the U.S. are not citizens illegals are not subjects to our laws.
Numbnuts Wongs parents entered the county through a recognized port of entry not illegally