Ilhan Omar denied a Holocaust

[Rigby5]

So is Azog and he’s a friggin Zionist Nazi

Nah, Azog just does not know all the facts and is letting himself be frightened by all the propaganda.
He thinks Germans hated Jews and wanted to kill them all, including him.
But he does not realize it was WWI, Jewish spies and traitors, and anti-Bolshevik propaganda that caused the threat, not Germans themselves.
He does not realize that the crimes of the Zionists in Israel cause him to become more at risk than ever.
Israel is making all Jews look bad, very bad indeed.

 

[Lisa558]

So is Azog and he’s a friggin Zionist Nazi

You mean he’s a Jew who is pro-Israel?

 

[Rigby5]

1000? Lok

First of all, there were only 6 death camps.
{...
The 6 death camps, Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Majdanek and Birkenau were used to carry out the systematic mass murder of Jews as part of the Final Solution,
...}

Second is that they used Poles, Ukrainians, etc., as much as possible as guards and workers.

All the other Germans knew Jews were being relocated, but the majority were sent to work camps, not death camps.
And they kept up a ruse of people even enjoying the country air.

And it was not as complete as some would like to have us think.
For example, there were over 100,000 Jews in the Wehrmacht, and neither them nor their families were bothered.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

First of all, there were only 6 death camps.
{...
The 6 death camps, Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Majdanek and Birkenau were used to carry out the systematic mass murder of Jews as part of the Final Solution,
...}

Second is that they used Poles, Ukrainians, etc., as much as possible as guards and workers.

All the other Germans knew Jews were being relocated, but the majority were sent to work camps, not death camps.
And they kept up a ruse of people even enjoying the country air.

And it was not as complete as some would like to have us think.
For example, there were over 100,000 Jews in the Wehrmacht, and neither them nor their families were bothered.

Wrong again. Nice try. Dachau? Germans used mercenaries that is true.

 

[Rigby5]

You mean he’s a Jew who is pro-Israel?

Explain to me how a person can be both Jewish and pro-Israel at the same time?
He keeps saying things like "by right of conquest", and that does not at all sound Jewish.
That is the kind of thinking that causes Holocausts, where the victor does what ever they want.

 

[Rigby5]

Wrong again. Nice try. Dachau? Germans used mercenaries that is true.

No, Dachau was NOT a death camp.
Dachau was in Germany first of all, and not a single death camp was ever in Germany.

Second was that the population of Dachau was in the hundreds of thousands, far too many witnesses for a death camp.

Third was that not a single death camp was left standing or captured.
And obviously Dachau is still intact, as a Holocaust museum.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No, Dachau was NOT a death camp.
Dachau was in Germany first of all, and not a single death camp was ever in Germany.

Second was that the population of Dachau was in the hundreds of thousands, far too many witnesses for a death camp.

Third was that not a single death camp was left standing or captured.
And obviously Dachau is still intact, as a Holocaust museum.

Nazi Camps

Nazi Germany and its allies established over 44,000 concentration camps and incarceration sites during the Holocaust. Read about the Nazi camp system.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

prisoners escaped from Sobibor. Pretty horrific accounts. But in your world the Jews deserved it.

 

[Rigby5]

Nazi Camps

Nazi Germany and its allies established over 44,000 concentration camps and incarceration sites during the Holocaust. Read about the Nazi camp system.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

prisoners escaped from Sobibor. Pretty horrific accounts. But in your world the Jews deserved it.

Wrong.
I listed Sobibor as a death camp.

{...
Sobibor (/ˈsoʊbɪbɔːr/, Polish: [sɔˈbibur]) was an extermination camp built and operated by Nazi Germany as part of Operation Reinhard. It was located in the forest near the village of Sobibór in the General Government region of German-occupied Poland.

As an extermination camp rather than a concentration camp, Sobibor existed for the sole purpose of murdering Jews. The vast majority of prisoners were gassed within hours of arrival. Those not killed immediately were forced to assist in the operation of the camp, and few survived more than a few months. In total, some 170,000 to 250,000 people were murdered at Sobibor, making it the fourth-deadliest Nazi camp after Belzec, Treblinka, and Auschwitz.

The camp ceased operations after a prisoner revolt which took place on 14 October 1943. The plan for the revolt involved two phases. In the first phase, teams of prisoners were to discreetly assassinate each of the SS officers. In the second phase, all 600 prisoners would assemble for evening roll call and walk to freedom out the front gate. However, the plan was disrupted after only 11 of the SS officers had been killed. The prisoners had to escape by climbing over barbed wire fences and running through a mine field under heavy machine gun fire. About 300 prisoners made it out of the camp, of whom 58 are known to have survived the war.

After the revolt, the Nazis demolished the camp and planted it over with pine trees.
...}

In the real world, 2 Zionists did awful things that greatly harmed Germany, and that caused a lot of anger towards Jews in general, that was not at all deserved.
The point is that Zionists are still doing awful things that all Jews are getting blamed for.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Wrong.
I listed Sobibor as a death camp.

{...
Sobibor (/ˈsoʊbɪbɔːr/, Polish: [sɔˈbibur]) was an extermination camp built and operated by Nazi Germany as part of Operation Reinhard. It was located in the forest near the village of Sobibór in the General Government region of German-occupied Poland.

As an extermination camp rather than a concentration camp, Sobibor existed for the sole purpose of murdering Jews. The vast majority of prisoners were gassed within hours of arrival. Those not killed immediately were forced to assist in the operation of the camp, and few survived more than a few months. In total, some 170,000 to 250,000 people were murdered at Sobibor, making it the fourth-deadliest Nazi camp after Belzec, Treblinka, and Auschwitz.

The camp ceased operations after a prisoner revolt which took place on 14 October 1943. The plan for the revolt involved two phases. In the first phase, teams of prisoners were to discreetly assassinate each of the SS officers. In the second phase, all 600 prisoners would assemble for evening roll call and walk to freedom out the front gate. However, the plan was disrupted after only 11 of the SS officers had been killed. The prisoners had to escape by climbing over barbed wire fences and running through a mine field under heavy machine gun fire. About 300 prisoners made it out of the camp, of whom 58 are known to have survived the war.

After the revolt, the Nazis demolished the camp and planted it over with pine trees.
...}

In the real world, 2 Zionists did awful things that greatly harmed Germany, and that caused a lot of anger towards Jews in general, that was not at all deserved.
The point is that Zionists are still doing awful things that all Jews are getting blamed for.

Link that’s why Hitler demonized Jews.

 

[Rigby5]

Link that’s why Hitler demonized Jews.

This link shows that before WWI, Jews were not discriminated against in Germany, but after WWI it was widely considered that Germany could only have lost due to Jewish and communist traitors. Jews and communists being synonymous at the time.

Antisemitism in History: World War I

Learn about trends that developed during and immediately after WWI that brought antisemitism, including its racist variant, into the mainstream of European politics.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

{...
First, for the nations that lost the war, the dreadful carnage on the battlefield—Europe's first experience with mass man-made death—seemed to be a sacrifice made for no gain. It seemed inexplicable except by insidious internal betrayal. A stab-in-the-back legend attributed the German and Austrian defeat in World War I to internal traitors working for foreign interests, primarily Jews and communists. This legend was widely believed and deliberately disseminated by the defeated German military leadership, seeking to avoid personal consequences for their policies.

Like other negative stereotypes about Jews, the stab-in-the-back legend was believed despite the fact that it was entirely untrue: German Jews had served in the German armed forces loyally, bravely, and out of proportion to their numbers in the population.

Second, the Bolshevik Revolution, the establishment of the Soviet Union, and short-lived experiments with communist dictatorship in Bavaria and Hungary frightened the middle classes all over Europe and even across the Atlantic in the United States. The prominence of individual communists of Jewish descent in the revolutionary regimes (Leon Trotsky in the Soviet Union, Béla Kun in Hungary, and Ernst Toller in Bavaria) confirmed to antisemites the "natural" attraction of Jews and international communism.
...
Among the new stereotypes regarding the "behavior" of Jews that appeared in the wake of World War I and that were deliberately propagated alongside older prejudices were the following myths:

• Jews had started the war to bring Europe financially and politically into ruin and make Europe susceptible to Jewish "control."
• Jews exploited the misery of the war to enrich themselves and prolonged it to lead the Bolshevik Revolution in furthering the aim of world revolution.
• With their inherited cowardice and instinctive disloyalty predisposing them against defending the nation, Jews were responsible for the pernicious malaise behind the front and stabbed the fighting troops in the back (causing the military defeat and democratic/socialist revolution).
• Foreign Jews dominated the peace negotiations and succeeded in dividing Germans and Hungarians by artificial national borders, while their co-conspirators, the domestic Jews, misled the nation into "surrender" and permanent "enslavement."
• The Jews controlled the complex finances of the reparations system for their own profit.
• Having established constitutional democracy, Jews used it to weaken the political will of the nation.

...}

This source is not one I subscribe to necessarily, in that is does not just blame Zionists for the Germans losing WWI, but claims Zionist deliberately planned and plotted even starting WWI.

Background to Treason:The Balfour Declaration | Counter-Currents

5,663 words Editor’s Note: The following text by William Pierce is an excerpt from a longer text, “Background to Treason: A Brief History of U.S. Policy in the Middle East, Part 1: From the Exodus to the Balfour Declaration.” I simply removed everything before the discussion of the Balfour...

counter-currents.com

{...
Even before the Zionist Congress met, Herzl had been attempting to persuade the Turks to give the Jews free rein in Palestine. First he tried blackmail, hinting that he and his fellow Jews, by using their influence, could either silence or intensify the agitation against Turkey then being carried on in various European capitals by Armenian expatriates, who had their own grievances.

When the blackmail didn’t work, Herzl’s thoughts turned to war. He told his fellow Zionists at Basle that they might be able to achieve control of Palestine through a European war, if they played their cards right: “It may be that Turkey will refuse or will be unable to understand us. This will not discourage us. We will seek other means to accomplish our end. The Orient question is now a question of the day. Sooner or later it will bring about a conflict among the nations. . . . The great European war must come. With my watch in hand do I await this terrible moment. After the great European war is ended the peace conference will assemble. We must be ready for that time.”[1]

The other Zionist leaders fell in with Herzl’s war plans — which, it is well to note, were proclaimed to world Jewry 17 years before the actual outbreak of the war. As it turned out, the Jews were able to use the war just as they had hoped: from it they finagled a promise by the government of Great Britain to secure Palestine for them.

This promise, the so-called “Balfour Declaration,” has an especially interesting history, for it not only throws light on the crucial period during which the Jews first secured the control over the foreign policy of the United States which they still wield — that is, the period during which the American people lost their sovereignty, unknowingly yielding to an alien minority in their midst the power to choose which nations would be America’s friends and which her foes; to decide when there would be peace and when war, and how each war would be waged, whether to win or lose or draw — but it also brilliantly illuminates the general modus operandi which the Jews, spread out as they are among many nations, have long used in playing off one nation against another in order to attain their own ends.
...}

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

This link shows that before WWI, Jews were not discriminated against in Germany, but after WWI it was widely considered that Germany could only have lost due to Jewish and communist traitors. Jews and communists being synonymous at the time.

Antisemitism in History: World War I

Learn about trends that developed during and immediately after WWI that brought antisemitism, including its racist variant, into the mainstream of European politics.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

{...
First, for the nations that lost the war, the dreadful carnage on the battlefield—Europe's first experience with mass man-made death—seemed to be a sacrifice made for no gain. It seemed inexplicable except by insidious internal betrayal. A stab-in-the-back legend attributed the German and Austrian defeat in World War I to internal traitors working for foreign interests, primarily Jews and communists. This legend was widely believed and deliberately disseminated by the defeated German military leadership, seeking to avoid personal consequences for their policies.

Like other negative stereotypes about Jews, the stab-in-the-back legend was believed despite the fact that it was entirely untrue: German Jews had served in the German armed forces loyally, bravely, and out of proportion to their numbers in the population.

Second, the Bolshevik Revolution, the establishment of the Soviet Union, and short-lived experiments with communist dictatorship in Bavaria and Hungary frightened the middle classes all over Europe and even across the Atlantic in the United States. The prominence of individual communists of Jewish descent in the revolutionary regimes (Leon Trotsky in the Soviet Union, Béla Kun in Hungary, and Ernst Toller in Bavaria) confirmed to antisemites the "natural" attraction of Jews and international communism.
...
Among the new stereotypes regarding the "behavior" of Jews that appeared in the wake of World War I and that were deliberately propagated alongside older prejudices were the following myths:

• Jews had started the war to bring Europe financially and politically into ruin and make Europe susceptible to Jewish "control."
• Jews exploited the misery of the war to enrich themselves and prolonged it to lead the Bolshevik Revolution in furthering the aim of world revolution.
• With their inherited cowardice and instinctive disloyalty predisposing them against defending the nation, Jews were responsible for the pernicious malaise behind the front and stabbed the fighting troops in the back (causing the military defeat and democratic/socialist revolution).
• Foreign Jews dominated the peace negotiations and succeeded in dividing Germans and Hungarians by artificial national borders, while their co-conspirators, the domestic Jews, misled the nation into "surrender" and permanent "enslavement."
• The Jews controlled the complex finances of the reparations system for their own profit.
• Having established constitutional democracy, Jews used it to weaken the political will of the nation.

...}

This source is not one I subscribe to necessarily, in that is does not just blame Zionists for the Germans losing WWI, but claims Zionist deliberately planned and plotted even starting WWI.

Background to Treason:The Balfour Declaration | Counter-Currents

5,663 words Editor’s Note: The following text by William Pierce is an excerpt from a longer text, “Background to Treason: A Brief History of U.S. Policy in the Middle East, Part 1: From the Exodus to the Balfour Declaration.” I simply removed everything before the discussion of the Balfour...

counter-currents.com

{...
Even before the Zionist Congress met, Herzl had been attempting to persuade the Turks to give the Jews free rein in Palestine. First he tried blackmail, hinting that he and his fellow Jews, by using their influence, could either silence or intensify the agitation against Turkey then being carried on in various European capitals by Armenian expatriates, who had their own grievances.

When the blackmail didn’t work, Herzl’s thoughts turned to war. He told his fellow Zionists at Basle that they might be able to achieve control of Palestine through a European war, if they played their cards right: “It may be that Turkey will refuse or will be unable to understand us. This will not discourage us. We will seek other means to accomplish our end. The Orient question is now a question of the day. Sooner or later it will bring about a conflict among the nations. . . . The great European war must come. With my watch in hand do I await this terrible moment. After the great European war is ended the peace conference will assemble. We must be ready for that time.”[1]

The other Zionist leaders fell in with Herzl’s war plans — which, it is well to note, were proclaimed to world Jewry 17 years before the actual outbreak of the war. As it turned out, the Jews were able to use the war just as they had hoped: from it they finagled a promise by the government of Great Britain to secure Palestine for them.

This promise, the so-called “Balfour Declaration,” has an especially interesting history, for it not only throws light on the crucial period during which the Jews first secured the control over the foreign policy of the United States which they still wield — that is, the period during which the American people lost their sovereignty, unknowingly yielding to an alien minority in their midst the power to choose which nations would be America’s friends and which her foes; to decide when there would be peace and when war, and how each war would be waged, whether to win or lose or draw — but it also brilliantly illuminates the general modus operandi which the Jews, spread out as they are among many nations, have long used in playing off one nation against another in order to attain their own ends.
...}

Too long

Hitler wasn’t in power then. Show why Hitler did what he did.

 

[Rigby5]

Too long

Hitler wasn’t in power then. Show why Hitler did what he did.

I think you are giving Hitler too much credit.
He was not educated, an aristocrat, wealthy, or particularly skilled at anything but oratory.
So likely he was just told what to say and do.
He was a populist, like Trump.
And the wealthy elite saw Jews as all Bolshevik threats.
So they wanted the German population, to see Jews as traitors.
And I believe Hitler just did what he was told.
Another possibility is simply there may have been some Jewish owned resources they wanted to confiscate?

 

[JoeB131]

Which is why most Palis are overweight and have Smart Phones!

Really? I haven't seen any of these fat Palestinians... and having a smart phone isn't freedom.

ou say stole and I disagree. Their own Govt oppresses them. Middle East is a shitshow. Israel is the least of its problems.

You can kind of put it any way you want... but the Zionist Trash of Europe went in and took their land because the West felt bad about Hitler.

Hey, I feel really bad about what's happening to black people. How about I give away your stuff.

 

[Indeependent]

Really? I haven't seen any of these fat Palestinians... and having a smart phone isn't freedom.



You can kind of put it any way you want... but the Zionist Trash of Europe went in and took their land because the West felt bad about Hitler.

Hey, I feel really bad about what's happening to black people. How about I give away your stuff.

Go on Quora and discover how many Palis don’t want to live under Pali rule.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Really? I haven't seen any of these fat Palestinians... and having a smart phone isn't freedom.



You can kind of put it any way you want... but the Zionist Trash of Europe went in and took their land because the West felt bad about Hitler.

Hey, I feel really bad about what's happening to black people. How about I give away your stuff.

That’s what’s happening….re black people. But that’s not what happened in Israel. Many Jews were already there. Millions were expelled from the Middle East and Islamist nations became more radical. Then the Ashkenazi followed. Then wars happened. Not sure how killing Israeli babies or even 30 yr olds makes sense but Islamists don’t care. Islamists have 50+ countries of their own. Jews have one and that’s the issue. If Israel was conquered by Sunnis, no one would care. But Jews…different story.

Yes there is obesity in Palestine

Overweight and Obesity among Palestinian Adults: Analyses of the Anthropometric Data from the First National Health and Nutrition Survey (1999-2000)

<i>Background</i>. A cross-sectional survey was designed to provide a baseline data on the prevalence and distribution of overweight and obesity and their associations among adults in Palestine. <i>Methods</i>. A random representative sample of 3617 adults aged 18–64 years was collected between...

www.hindawi.com

 

[Rigby5]

Go on Quora and discover how many Palis don’t want to live under Pali rule.

Wrong.
All people have some conflicting political ideals, but the Israelis are incredibly abusive towards all native Palestinians, regardless of religion.
For example, they are not allowed to use the same schools, hospitals, or even roads.
They are forced to take long circuitous routes to get anywhere, because of main roads being reserved for the modern Jewish elite.

The constant blockade of Palestinian commerce by Israel is totally illegal, immoral, and a war crime according to the 1906 Geneva Conventions.

 

[Rigby5]

That’s what’s happening….re black people. But that’s not what happened in Israel. Many Jews were already there. Millions were expelled from the Middle East and Islamist nations became more radical. Then the Ashkenazi followed. Then wars happened. Not sure how killing Israeli babies or even 30 yr olds makes sense but Islamists don’t care. Islamists have 50+ countries of their own. Jews have one and that’s the issue. If Israel was conquered by Sunnis, no one would care. But Jews…different story.

Yes there is obesity in Palestine

Overweight and Obesity among Palestinian Adults: Analyses of the Anthropometric Data from the First National Health and Nutrition Survey (1999-2000)

<i>Background</i>. A cross-sectional survey was designed to provide a baseline data on the prevalence and distribution of overweight and obesity and their associations among adults in Palestine. <i>Methods</i>. A random representative sample of 3617 adults aged 18–64 years was collected between...

www.hindawi.com

Fewer than 5% of the population of Palestine was Jewish until the late 1930s.

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There are currently 6 million Jews in Israel and Palestine, but 12 million Arab Moslems in the same lands.

No Jews was ever expelled from any Moslem or Arab country.
The only time Jews were expelled from anywhere, was by Christians. like from the Iberian Peninsula, England, Russia, etc.

The Ashkenazi were the first to start the movement to go to Palestine, around the late 1890s.
Theodor Herzl.

Theodor Herzl - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All other Jews resisted, so then Zionists like Chaim Weizmann and David ben Gurion deliberately started antagonizing people against Jews, in order to make all Jews finally move to Palestine, where they would then be working for the corrupt Zionist leadership.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Fewer than 5% of the population of Palestine was Jewish until the late 1930s.

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There are currently 6 million Jews in Israel and Palestine, but 12 million Arab Moslems in the same lands.

No Jews was ever expelled from any Moslem or Arab country.
The only time Jews were expelled from anywhere, was by Christians. like from the Iberian Peninsula, England, Russia, etc.

The Ashkenazi were the first to start the movement to go to Palestine, around the late 1890s.
Theodor Herzl.

Theodor Herzl - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All other Jews resisted, so then Zionists like Chaim Weizmann and David ben Gurion deliberately started antagonizing people against Jews, in order to make all Jews finally move to Palestine, where they would then be working for the corrupt Zionist leadership.

They were expelled and by the thousands. Funny you didn’t know that. How is that possible? And you called my friend a liar. Tsk tsk tsk.

 

[JoeB131]

Go on Quora and discover how many Palis don’t want to live under Pali rule.

Then simple enough solution. Let every Palestinian vote in Israeli elections, and send members of Hamas and Fatah to the Knesset. As opposed to just the Quisling Parties that Zionists allow to exist.

That’s what’s happening….re black people. But that’s not what happened in Israel. Many Jews were already there. Millions were expelled from the Middle East and Islamist nations became more radical.

Not this old tired story again.

Riddle me this, Batman. If most of the Zionists are from Palestine and the Middle East, then why is it EVERY LAST ZIONIST leader is someone who was either born in Europe or his parents or grandparents were? Were the ME majority just so awed by their European features they said, "Yeah, I got to vote for that guy!"

 

[22lcidw]

Would the powerful kill their own to achieve their goals? In race, color, creed and any other way? It seems history and reality proves they will easily. In a huge way it involves a lot of subterfuge and resets of the times by those movers and shakers whose goals trumps everything else.