If you're a Reagan Republican and a Trump supporter ...

[kaz]

Well, *****, I never said I "have no trouble with Hillary winning." Stick your finger up your *****, finger boy. You're just losing it

Of course you have said that. You keep saying the Hillary is no worse than Trump.

In the end, no. I'm tired of repeating the same points.

Everything bad about Trump applies to Hillary. There are things Trump says that I agree with.

However, Trump is more likely to follow through with the bad shit he's threatening to do.

What about that is unclear to you?

"Bad shit" like what, imposing a few tariffs? You think that's worse than abolishing the 2nd Amendment, and the first? opening the flood gates for illegal aliens and legalizing 30 million of them? Increasing government spending by $1 trillion?

I always thought anarchists were like the elephant's graveyard. You gave up, it's over. I'm glad to meet an anarchist who still believes and hasn't quit. In the words of Dante:

All ye who enter here abandon all hope ...

While I'm glad to meet an anarchist who still believes. I don't. It's over. We're tilting at windmills. Whatever battle we win here or lose there doesn't matter. Our grandchildren won't know what liberty is whatever we do

Allowing Hillary Clinton to win is the definition of "giving up." You just admitted you think that the election is "pointless" no matter who you vote for.

I didn't "admit" that, I'm saying that. No matter who wins and what happens in this election, there is another one and another after that and we're fucked. The leaches won, it's over

 

[kaz]

While I'm glad to meet an anarchist who still believes. I don't. It's over. We're tilting at windmills. Whatever battle we win here or lose there doesn't matter. Our grandchildren won't know what liberty is whatever we do

What a downer.

I thought I told you earlier to go join your local Goth scene.

The state squeezed the life out of you, yet you still support the state. Talk about sycophancy....

I support the State? What are you smoking?

 

[Onyx]

I support the State? What are you smoking?

Do you believe in a system of appointed rulers that have the ability to enforce political and economic measures through the usage of violence?

You obviously do not consider yourself an anarchist, which makes you a state sycophant.

 

[2aguy]

You're very confused.

-Reagan believed America is great, he was right
-Trump believes Trump is great, but he'll make America great ... if we elect him

-Reagan was all about optimism that our business is the best open the economic borders and we'll kick ass, he was right
-Trump is all about fear we can't compete so those feriners are going to steal our jobs

-Reagan was about wanting to lower taxes and regulations and our companies will want to be here, he was right
-Trump is about punishing them if they try to leave

If you're a Reagan Republican and support Trump, you believe light is dark, up is down and government can best decide who we can do business with.

Johnson's not perfect for sure, but he's far more like Reagan than Trump is, and Trump isn't nearly different enough from Hillary for it to matter.

The last, desperate argument of the Republicans is the Supreme Court. Well, we've had decades of courts with Republican nominated majorities. At one point it was 7-2. We got shit for it. And John Roberts ignoring even the argument of the Obama administration and just declaring it a "tax" was the final nail in the coffin.

Healthcare exchanges, government deciding what policies need to include and all the rest of the Obamacare regulations are a "tax?" He's full of shit. And what Supreme Court ever told a side here's what you should have argued, and I'm going to pretend you did and rule for you?

Then there's this crap Trump is a capitalist, he only wants "fair" trade deals. Even if you believe someone who says he's for free trade keeps saying he isn't, his proposals go way beyond that. Punitive taxes on American businesses trying to escape our oppressive taxes and regulations isn't about trade and it's not capitalist, which is what made us so rich to start with.

That Trump thinks America isn't great, but he personally can make it great is frankly scary. But that he's anti-free trade and anti-Capitalist is unacceptable.

If you're a Reagan Republican ... vote for Johnson ...

If you are a Reagan Republican...and vote for Johnson......you will destroy everything Reagan believed in.......there will be no way to take the country back......Trump is a holding action...hilary is the end.......when Reagan said we are no more than one generation away from extinguishing liberty....he meant hilary.....

if you vote Johnson......conservatism will just be a funny idea that the guys in the welfare line make fun of ........ since generations of AMericans will only know welfare....and voting conservative won't be considered, since the immigrants hilary will make citizens will automatically vote democrat the same way blacks and hispanics do now......

Stephen Breyer, the Supreme Court Justice...told Hugh Hewitt the lawyer and radio host that his biggest regret was that the SC did not get more involved in redistricting issues.....so you can gaurantee that the court will rule in favor of creating a process that creates democrat voting district after voting district.....republicans won't be able to be elected dog catcher..........

If you vote Johnson, you are not a serious opponent of leftism/statism......

 

[baileyn45]

No, that's silly. Johnson has no chance and the future of America is at stake. Three SC justices is not something we can leave to the Democrats and America cannot withstand a Hillary Clinton administration.

While I don't think much of Trump, well put.

 

[kaz]

I support the State? What are you smoking?

Do you believe in a system of appointed rulers that have the ability to enforce political and economic measures through the usage of violence?

You obviously do not consider yourself an anarchist, which makes you a state sycophant.

I'm a small government libertarian. Government is the worst solution to any problem, so it should be the solution only when it is the only solution.

There can be only one military, one police department, only one manager of limited resources (e.g., water). We need to be able to resolve differences between citizens (i.e., criminal and civilian courts). So WTF are you talking about I want "appointed rulers?" Screw you, you're talking out of your ass

 

[kaz]

You're very confused.

-Reagan believed America is great, he was right
-Trump believes Trump is great, but he'll make America great ... if we elect him

-Reagan was all about optimism that our business is the best open the economic borders and we'll kick ass, he was right
-Trump is all about fear we can't compete so those feriners are going to steal our jobs

-Reagan was about wanting to lower taxes and regulations and our companies will want to be here, he was right
-Trump is about punishing them if they try to leave

If you're a Reagan Republican and support Trump, you believe light is dark, up is down and government can best decide who we can do business with.

Johnson's not perfect for sure, but he's far more like Reagan than Trump is, and Trump isn't nearly different enough from Hillary for it to matter.

The last, desperate argument of the Republicans is the Supreme Court. Well, we've had decades of courts with Republican nominated majorities. At one point it was 7-2. We got shit for it. And John Roberts ignoring even the argument of the Obama administration and just declaring it a "tax" was the final nail in the coffin.

Healthcare exchanges, government deciding what policies need to include and all the rest of the Obamacare regulations are a "tax?" He's full of shit. And what Supreme Court ever told a side here's what you should have argued, and I'm going to pretend you did and rule for you?

Then there's this crap Trump is a capitalist, he only wants "fair" trade deals. Even if you believe someone who says he's for free trade keeps saying he isn't, his proposals go way beyond that. Punitive taxes on American businesses trying to escape our oppressive taxes and regulations isn't about trade and it's not capitalist, which is what made us so rich to start with.

That Trump thinks America isn't great, but he personally can make it great is frankly scary. But that he's anti-free trade and anti-Capitalist is unacceptable.

If you're a Reagan Republican ... vote for Johnson ...

If you are a Reagan Republican...and vote for Johnson......you will destroy everything Reagan believed in.......there will be no way to take the country back......Trump is a holding action...hilary is the end.......when Reagan said we are no more than one generation away from extinguishing liberty....he meant hilary.....

if you vote Johnson......conservatism will just be a funny idea that the guys in the welfare line make fun of ........ since generations of AMericans will only know welfare....and voting conservative won't be considered, since the immigrants hilary will make citizens will automatically vote democrat the same way blacks and hispanics do now......

Stephen Breyer, the Supreme Court Justice...told Hugh Hewitt the lawyer and radio host that his biggest regret was that the SC did not get more involved in redistricting issues.....so you can gaurantee that the court will rule in favor of creating a process that creates democrat voting district after voting district.....republicans won't be able to be elected dog catcher..........

If you vote Johnson, you are not a serious opponent of leftism/statism......

That point is already a dot in our rear view mirror. Liberals breed the stupid, lazy and dependent and out vote the rest of us. It's fait accompli

 

[Correll]

1. Other than maybe Costa Rica no nation is unarmed. The diplomatic effects of course will depend on the context. It did not hurt US last time.

Obviously I mean having no nuclear arsenal when I say unarmed. That brings up another point though.

Every nation on earth has an arsenal of tactical ballistic missiles. Shoot Iran and they scorch Israel into utter nothingness. They even have intercontinental launch capabilities, so your whole city wont be up in flames, but the White House would probably be up in smoke.

And yes, the usage of nuclear weapons did hurt geopolitically and diplomatically. It streamlined a Soviet nuclear program, and if you want to be on the brink again, you best stop acting like an incredible moron.

2. So, moving the goal post from global destruction to new cold war. Got it.

Global destruction is a very likely possibility. More likely than moving to DEFCON 2.

1. Every nation does not have tactical ballistic missiles.

2. If you think that the Soviets would not have massively pursued the Atomic Bomb if we had not used it, you are sadly mistaken.

3. No, bombing Japan did not hurt us diplomatically or geopolitically.

4. NOpe. Russian isn't launching over Iran.

 

[Correll]

I imagine most Reaganites will be voting for Hillary Clinton or a 3rd party--Gary Johnson more liberal than Darell Castle (not sure if Castle is on all 50 state ballots) but that's probably who Utah is going to favor. Honestly I don't know much about either of these candidates but have heard that Castle is more conservative than Johnson.

But clearly the most qualified candidate is Hillary Clinton, and Republicans are endorsing her like crazy. Bush Sr. told his daughter that he will be voting for her, but refused to admit it publicly. You can bet G.W. & Jeb will be voting for her, and I imagine most Republican Senators and House members will also be voting for her. Every ballot is a "secret ballot."

We recommend Hillary Clinton for president | Editorials | Dallas News
ANOTHER Major Republican Endorses Hillary...Trump Is LIVID, Fears Campaign Is OVER
Trump sends unprecedented numbers of GOP fleeing to Clinton
Republicans for Hillary? - CNNPolitics.com

And there's a reason for that. Many Republicans have praised Hillary Clinton in the past, and like her, "when they're not campaigning against her." So it's no surprise they're kicking this ASS CLOWN Trump to the curb to endorse and vote for her.
Republicans Have Praised Hillary Clinton’s Secretary Of State Tenure
Hillary's secret weapon? GOP praise

And this is the silver bullet that was shot into the ass of the Chimpanzee nominee. Doug Elmet's was a long time friend and former staffer of RONALD REAGAN who says it all in 3 minutes.

Anyone who considers that voting patterns in REagans elections and todays, would realize that the vast majority of living Reagan voters are polling for Trump.

Everything in your post is silly.

 

[Correll]

Supporting the lesser of two evils is the base argument for moral statism.

There is a reason why I said that attitude is dangerous and counterproductive.

We anarchists have long held the moral high ground by rejecting evil in all its forms.

Being irrelevant allows you to avoid direct responsibility.

That is not the same as "Moral High Ground".

 

[Correll]

His message is not "anti-capitalist" any more than George W Bush's message was capitalist. Trump may be against free trade, but he's not against free enterprise. Being for the TPP doesn't mean you favor free trade. The TPP is a nightmare that destroys American sovereignty.

The idea that Trump is more of a threat to capitalism than Hillary is a joke. You obviously aren't to be taken seriously. You keep making ridiculous statements like that.

Look man. You've made a lot of good points through the years. But you're being a stupid **** right now.

I never said "Trump is more of a threat to capitalism than Hillary."

Shove it up your vagina

Of course you did. Allow me to quote you:

"Trump keeps pounding his anti-capitalist message. He's a lot more threat to actually do the crap he's proposing than Hillary is. I doubt she's going to follow through with reducing free trade"

I said he's more likely to do what he's threatening to do. Which is true. That isn't synonymous with the crap you said. Don't help me, quote what I actually said

Hillary wil have the power to do what she wants after she stacks the SC with bootlicking leftwing goons.

And decades of Republican dominated courts have gotten us what exactly?

Some rollback on Affirmative Action (quotas for example).

 

[Correll]

The "working class" are not the ones who work, Darlene. They're the ones who work as little as possible. Here's how you know that isn't what I said. I didn't say that. What is wrong with you? Seriously?

Obviously you did not comphrehend my post, because I did not accuse you of saying that.

You did call him leftist for attacking the working class (or so you perceived), and upholding the working class has long been a communist tenant.

Left wing is not anti-worker. It is a lot of other things, but not that.

Hillary is pushing the same trade policy as Reagan. She is the darling of the 1%. She is not pro-worker, no matter what she says.

 

[Correll]

I imagine most Reaganites will be voting for Hillary Clinton or a 3rd party--Gary Johnson more liberal than Darell Castle (not sure if Castle is on all 50 state ballots) but that's probably who Utah is going to favor. Honestly I don't know much about either of these candidates but have heard that Castle is more conservative than Johnson.

But clearly the most qualified candidate is Hillary Clinton, and Republicans are endorsing her like crazy. Bush Sr. told his daughter that he will be voting for her, but refused to admit it publicly. You can bet G.W. & Jeb will be voting for her, and I imagine most Republican Senators and House members will also be voting for her. Every ballot is a "secret ballot."

We recommend Hillary Clinton for president | Editorials | Dallas News
ANOTHER Major Republican Endorses Hillary...Trump Is LIVID, Fears Campaign Is OVER
Trump sends unprecedented numbers of GOP fleeing to Clinton
Republicans for Hillary? - CNNPolitics.com

And there's a reason for that. Many Republicans have praised Hillary Clinton in the past, and like her, "when they're not campaigning against her." So it's no surprise they're kicking this ASS CLOWN Trump to the curb to endorse and vote for her.
Republicans Have Praised Hillary Clinton’s Secretary Of State Tenure
Hillary's secret weapon? GOP praise

And this is the silver bullet that was shot into the ass of the Chimpanzee nominee.

A reaganite vote for Hillary? You must be joking. That's like saying Stalin would have voted for Calvin Coolidge.

I just gave you several links to show you that is exactly what's happening. Reaganites will be voting for Hillary Clinton or a 3rd party. You have nominated a man with NO honor, NO respect, NO dignity, and the only loyalty he has ever shown anyone is to himself & Russia. The most incompetent, unqualified, dangerous candidate in this nation's history, your chimpanzee nominee Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is a unique threat to American democracy

Reaganites are pragmatic (can see through the bullshit.) They're intelligent. They are solely focused on fiscal conservatism, a smaller more effective government. They aren't swayed by the Reich wing nutcase, book of dummie's conspiracy theories. They have respect and honor and they're sure not going to support someone who stated in his book "My personal Vietnam was sleeping with married women."
Donald Trump Calls Sleeping Around His ‘Personal Vietnam’

Nor would they support any candidate (that claimed to be a Republican) that just proposed another entitlement program--"child care subsidies."
Donald Trump Proposes Child-Care Subsidies

Unfortunately for you and all the others from the nutcase Reich wing, Reaganites are the majority of the Republican party whom you have been attacking for the last several years and calling them "rino's, establishment", etc. And they have no LOYALTY to this new party of Trump. That is stuffed full of ignorance, anger, fear, bigotry, misogyny and extremism. They decided long ago, (after Trump won the nomination) that there was no way in HELL that they were going to support or vote for Donald Trump. Their 2016 platform suits them well. Full of oppression, bigotry, extremism and division.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/opinion/the-most-extreme-republican-platform-in-memory.html?_r=1

And when you can't get the RED-EST of the RED to support the Republican nominee this race was LOST the very second that Trump was declared the nominee of this party.
In the reddest part of Colorado, some Republicans rethink their loyalty
Open Letter To Donald Trump From a #NeverTrumper

And here's another add made by REAGANITES FOR CLINTON.

That post is nothing but partisan blather. There is nothing in there to respond to.

 

[Correll]

Trump is by no stretch of imagination a Reagan, however, no worse and possibly better then the alternative. Continuing down the same path for another 8 years will accomplish nothing more then further bankrupt the country, fill the pockets of the rich, shrink the middle class, expand the ranks of working poor and solidify the transformation to a socialist government.

Trump is not off the beaten track.

He comes across as more moderate than George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, and John Mccain.

He is such an outsider that he has much of the Republican leadership supporting Hillary.


It is insane to deny that he is "off the beaten path".

 

[Correll]

You're very confused.

-Reagan believed America is great, he was right
-Trump believes Trump is great, but he'll make America great ... if we elect him

-Reagan was all about optimism that our business is the best open the economic borders and we'll kick ass, he was right
-Trump is all about fear we can't compete so those feriners are going to steal our jobs

-Reagan was about wanting to lower taxes and regulations and our companies will want to be here, he was right
-Trump is about punishing them if they try to leave

If you're a Reagan Republican and support Trump, you believe light is dark, up is down and government can best decide who we can do business with.

Johnson's not perfect for sure, but he's far more like Reagan than Trump is, and Trump isn't nearly different enough from Hillary for it to matter.

The last, desperate argument of the Republicans is the Supreme Court. Well, we've had decades of courts with Republican nominated majorities. At one point it was 7-2. We got shit for it. And John Roberts ignoring even the argument of the Obama administration and just declaring it a "tax" was the final nail in the coffin.

Healthcare exchanges, government deciding what policies need to include and all the rest of the Obamacare regulations are a "tax?" He's full of shit. And what Supreme Court ever told a side here's what you should have argued, and I'm going to pretend you did and rule for you?

Then there's this crap Trump is a capitalist, he only wants "fair" trade deals. Even if you believe someone who says he's for free trade keeps saying he isn't, his proposals go way beyond that. Punitive taxes on American businesses trying to escape our oppressive taxes and regulations isn't about trade and it's not capitalist, which is what made us so rich to start with.

That Trump thinks America isn't great, but he personally can make it great is frankly scary. But that he's anti-free trade and anti-Capitalist is unacceptable.

If you're a Reagan Republican ... vote for Johnson ...

If you are a Reagan Republican...and vote for Johnson......you will destroy everything Reagan believed in.......there will be no way to take the country back......Trump is a holding action...hilary is the end.......when Reagan said we are no more than one generation away from extinguishing liberty....he meant hilary.....

if you vote Johnson......conservatism will just be a funny idea that the guys in the welfare line make fun of ........ since generations of AMericans will only know welfare....and voting conservative won't be considered, since the immigrants hilary will make citizens will automatically vote democrat the same way blacks and hispanics do now......

Stephen Breyer, the Supreme Court Justice...told Hugh Hewitt the lawyer and radio host that his biggest regret was that the SC did not get more involved in redistricting issues.....so you can gaurantee that the court will rule in favor of creating a process that creates democrat voting district after voting district.....republicans won't be able to be elected dog catcher..........

If you vote Johnson, you are not a serious opponent of leftism/statism......

That point is already a dot in our rear view mirror. Liberals breed the stupid, lazy and dependent and out vote the rest of us. It's fait accompli

Almost certainly.

 

[francoHFW]

Reagan was a moderate at best.
I'm 50/50 on Trump. The other 50 was I can't stand hillary.

Because you believe a lot of bs...

 

[francoHFW]

Reagan, in his zeal to defeat communism, bypassed a Democratic-controlled Congress sanction on funding the Contras.

It worked on all fronts. The Sandinistas were defeated and their funding from the USSR dried up.

Again, a job well done.

He also fear mongered the country about them, and there was pretty much genocide there. Later they were elected to run the country, and were later voted out. An American disgrace.

 

[Onyx]

I'm a small government libertarian. Government is the worst solution to any problem, so it should be the solution only when it is the only solution.

Yeah, which makes you a believer in the state. (statist)

The naivety of your beliefs always gives me a jolly ol' laugh. Believing that you can maintain transparent, honest, and accountable government on any scale and keep it from expanding in power is being openly ignorant.

Like I said earlier, you believe in the same state that has squeezed the life out of you. That makes you a sycophant.

There can be only one military, one police department, only one manager of limited resources (e.g., water).

In other words, there needs to be one soulless machine with a monopoly of force.

What are the boundaries of this one government? Over the world? Over the country? Over the region? How about over the individual?

We need to be able to resolve differences between citizens (i.e., criminal and civilian courts).

In addition to maintaining the slave state, you also support the existence of second class "citizens," constituting those that reject conforming to the established law.

So WTF are you talking about I want "appointed rulers?"

The rulers that are at the head of that established government of yours. Whether you are authorizing or enabling them with powers, society has now been conceptualized into a series of rulers and slaves.

Screw you, you're talking out of your ass

You need to chill out.

Why does every discussion have to be so hostile with you?

 

[Bush92]

You're very confused.

-Reagan believed America is great, he was right
-Trump believes Trump is great, but he'll make America great ... if we elect him

-Reagan was all about optimism that our business is the best open the economic borders and we'll kick ass, he was right
-Trump is all about fear we can't compete so those feriners are going to steal our jobs

-Reagan was about wanting to lower taxes and regulations and our companies will want to be here, he was right
-Trump is about punishing them if they try to leave

If you're a Reagan Republican and support Trump, you believe light is dark, up is down and government can best decide who we can do business with.

Johnson's not perfect for sure, but he's far more like Reagan than Trump is, and Trump isn't nearly different enough from Hillary for it to matter.

The last, desperate argument of the Republicans is the Supreme Court. Well, we've had decades of courts with Republican nominated majorities. At one point it was 7-2. We got shit for it. And John Roberts ignoring even the argument of the Obama administration and just declaring it a "tax" was the final nail in the coffin.

Healthcare exchanges, government deciding what policies need to include and all the rest of the Obamacare regulations are a "tax?" He's full of shit. And what Supreme Court ever told a side here's what you should have argued, and I'm going to pretend you did and rule for you?

Then there's this crap Trump is a capitalist, he only wants "fair" trade deals. Even if you believe someone who says he's for free trade keeps saying he isn't, his proposals go way beyond that. Punitive taxes on American businesses trying to escape our oppressive taxes and regulations isn't about trade and it's not capitalist, which is what made us so rich to start with.

That Trump thinks America isn't great, but he personally can make it great is frankly scary. But that he's anti-free trade and anti-Capitalist is unacceptable.

If you're a Reagan Republican ... vote for Johnson ...

So if Ronald Reagan were alive he would vote for Hillary, or worse that ******* dolt Johnson? Lol.

 

[kaz]

Look man. You've made a lot of good points through the years. But you're being a stupid **** right now.

I never said "Trump is more of a threat to capitalism than Hillary."

Shove it up your vagina

Of course you did. Allow me to quote you:

"Trump keeps pounding his anti-capitalist message. He's a lot more threat to actually do the crap he's proposing than Hillary is. I doubt she's going to follow through with reducing free trade"

I said he's more likely to do what he's threatening to do. Which is true. That isn't synonymous with the crap you said. Don't help me, quote what I actually said

Hillary wil have the power to do what she wants after she stacks the SC with bootlicking leftwing goons.

And decades of Republican dominated courts have gotten us what exactly?

Some rollback on Affirmative Action (quotas for example).

Wow, the tiniest bit. Sandra Day O'Conner (Republican appointee) found 25 years of discrimination in favor of blacks is in the Constitution. I still can't find that part