If you want to improve education fire the under performing teachers

[Jackson]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

That's what happens when the elementary and middle schools pass the students on for "social reasons." That is a great injustice.

 

[bodecea]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

I start with the ones who use avatars which are clown faces of people they don't like. I figure if these people show such little respect for their advasaries, they are probably the ones who are trash talking their friends behind their back. Those people have already demonstrated that they have no or too low of a standard of behavior.

"Advasaries"?....you just got hoisted on your own petard, Skippy.

 

[bodecea]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

That's what happens when the elementary and middle schools pass the students on for "social reasons." That is a great injustice.

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

 

[gallantwarrior]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

I understand what you are "saying". What about the poor teachers who were there first? Too bad students cannot be "left back" to catch up what they lack. It's a shame that so many parents are products of the same liberal indoctrination systems that regard actual education secondary to the PC crap that passed for "education" in modern school systems.

 

[gallantwarrior]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

Oh, by-the-way, if you cannot count, it does not count as an education.

 

[bodecea]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

Oh, by-the-way, if you cannot count, it does not count as an education.

So...get rid of art and music and PE?

 

[Jackson]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

That's what happens when the elementary and middle schools pass the students on for "social reasons." That is a great injustice.

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

The rules usually are, failing is possible twice in the early elementary and once in the 4-=6 grades. If they are still behind, special classes may be needed and they need a psychological.

 

[Jackson]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

Oh, by-the-way, if you cannot count, it does not count as an education.

So...get rid of art and music and PE?

MY thoughts are only reading, language arts and math in grades K-2 and introducing content subjects in grades 3-6. Forget the social engineering studies (2 dads, transgender, etc. time loss)

 

[gallantwarrior]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

Oh, by-the-way, if you cannot count, it does not count as an education.

So...get rid of art and music and PE?

I did not mention that at all. We do need to get rid of all the touchy-feely, PC bullshit being disseminated in public schools under the auspices of "education".

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

The best way to do that is through vouchers.

 

[Jackson]

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

Oh, by-the-way, if you cannot count, it does not count as an education.

So...get rid of art and music and PE?

I did not mention that at all. We do need to get rid of all the touchy-feely, PC bullshit being disseminated in public schools under the auspices of "education".

You can be a compassionate teacher without getting into the PC garbage. School is for academics, damnit!

 

[gallantwarrior]

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

Oh, by-the-way, if you cannot count, it does not count as an education.

So...get rid of art and music and PE?

I did not mention that at all. We do need to get rid of all the touchy-feely, PC bullshit being disseminated in public schools under the auspices of "education".

You can be a compassionate teacher without getting into the PC garbage. School is for academics, damnit!

I agree. But compassion does not necessarily encompass how many mommies, or daddies, are at home, or what a student wishes to pretend they are (male/female) and which toilet/locker room they should attend, etc. Read, write, cipher...history and social studies, within limits, supported by documented facts, that is what should be taught in grades K-12.

 

[Jackson]

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

Oh, by-the-way, if you cannot count, it does not count as an education.

So...get rid of art and music and PE?

I did not mention that at all. We do need to get rid of all the touchy-feely, PC bullshit being disseminated in public schools under the auspices of "education".

You can be a compassionate teacher without getting into the PC garbage. School is for academics, damnit!

I agree. But compassion does not necessarily encompass how many mommies, or daddies, are at home, or what a student wishes to pretend they are (male/female) and which toilet/locker room they should attend, etc. Read, write, cipher...history and social studies, within limits, supported by documented facts, that is what should be taught in grades K-12.

I agree with you wholeheartedly.

 

[ding]

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

Oh, I realize that there may need to be an adjustment period. I'm not so callous that I wouldn't give them a second or maybe even a third chance (if they asked pretty please) until the expectations were firmly in place. But after that, I say there are no excuses.

Sun Tzu and the Lesson of the Concubines

 

[ding]

"Advasaries"?....you just got hoisted on your own petard, Skippy.

Egads, I missed spelled a word. Quick call the grammer police.

P.S. I misspelled grammar just for you.

 

[MisterBeale]

If you want to improve public education fire the under performing teachers. The remaining ones will get the hint. Then... flunk out the under performing students. The remaining ones will get the hint too. Teaching and schooling are not for everyone.

How do you determine the underperforming teachers?

Can their students read, write, and do numbers? Do they understand the most basic precepts of traditional science, history, and social precepts?

So...if you can't count it, it doesn't count? What about the teachers who get classes of students already several grade levels behind? What about students whose parents are illiterate and can't help at home?

That's what happens when the elementary and middle schools pass the students on for "social reasons." That is a great injustice.

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

If that's what it takes.

 

[ding]

Ok...so have 15 year old 6th graders?

Or we could just show them the door and tell them that school may not be for you and wish them luck on their journey. I guarantee that will motivate his fellow students.

Sun Tzu and the Lesson of the Concubines

 

[gallantwarrior]

Here's how it works:
Student wants to be teacher, graduates HS and moves on to college. Is admitted to college on affirmative action (disregard academic qualifications).
Student proceeds through college and graduates on their ethnic (not academic) qualifications. Acquires Affirmative Action posting. Teacher is pretty much illiterate but still "qualified" as teacher. Students acquire teacher's qualifications/talents/etc. Students fail to meet standards but are passed on to subsequent grades because of affirmative action. They are accepted to universities because they are "disadvantaged" minorities. And so it goes....

 

[Jackson]

Here's how it works:
Student wants to be teacher, graduates HS and moves on to college. Is admitted to college on affirmative action (disregard academic qualifications).
Student proceeds through college and graduates on their ethnic (not academic) qualifications. Acquires Affirmative Action posting. Teacher is pretty much illiterate but still "qualified" as teacher. Students acquire teacher's qualifications/talents/etc. Students fail to meet standards but are passed on to subsequent grades because of affirmative action. They are accepted to universities because they are "disadvantaged" minorities. And so it goes....

And why or how did they pass student teach, fgs? I had a student teacher who was a track star and the University wanted to give her a third try on student teaching. She couldn't write or spell, but was very sweet. But that was not enough. She failed. Big time.

 

[ding]

Here's how it works:
Student wants to be teacher, graduates HS and moves on to college. Is admitted to college on affirmative action (disregard academic qualifications).
Student proceeds through college and graduates on their ethnic (not academic) qualifications. Acquires Affirmative Action posting. Teacher is pretty much illiterate but still "qualified" as teacher. Students acquire teacher's qualifications/talents/etc. Students fail to meet standards but are passed on to subsequent grades because of affirmative action. They are accepted to universities because they are "disadvantaged" minorities. And so it goes....

We really have not done them any favors by lowering the standards. I believe had they been held accountable to higher standards they would not only have reached them, but would be more prosperous for it.