If you ruled the US...

[JWBooth]

 

[deltex1]

If I ruled the US as President, my first action would be to sign an EO saying Congress nor the SCOCTUS have any right to strike down any EOs I may issue. Then, I would issue a second EO saying that a new Constitutional Convention is to be called with delegates from all states present elected for that one purpose, writing a new Constitution. I, naturally, would appoint myself President of the Convention. As president of it, I would try mainly to redefine and reinforce the protections and rights guaranteed by the Constitution, as well as reform the structure of Gov't.
I would make the Supreme Court have eleven justices: 5 elected from regions of the country, 3 appointed by the POTUS, and 1 elected by each chamber of the Congress (I would make three branches). Also, justices would have term limits and would be staggered to ensure each president gets to appoint so many. The Congress would have 3 houses: one proposing social laws, one for matters of economics, and another for world affairs. Each house would be comprised of 150 members, each state being granted 3 representatives. On matters of joint responsibility, one house may plead to the SCOTUS to review it and call for all houses involved together to vote on it. To pass a law, the proposing branch must achieve a 60% majority, followed by at least a 30% minority from the other houses. Each candidate is only allowed to be in 1 house at a time. The president would be forced to relinquish much power to an elected group of specialists similar to the Cabinet, and would be elected to 5 year terms, can be elected twice, and if a 80% majority of all houses vote so, a recall election may be held to throw out the old president.
What would you do?

No offense...but if you were ruler I would shoot myself dead.

 

[CorvusRexus]

You obviously didn't read my OP that well. The EO would pretty much void Congress and the SCOTUS to do anything to me. Besides, I know that the President controls the military, and as I would call a new Convention to right a new Constitution, something many right-wing gun owners would probably support, and as Andrew Jackson once said, "John Marshall (the SCOTUS Chief Justice at the time) has made his decision; now let him enforce it!" Congress and the SCOTUS can't fight the US military and the citizens.

The President does not have the power to do as you posted. EO can not void laws nor deny constitutional authority or power to the other branches and the military would not follow your illegal unconstitutional orders. The Courts would shut you down and you would be arrested and tried for treason. After your impeachment. The people would not follow you.

Congress and the States are the only authorities to call a convention. And Congress decides who sits on the Convention.

I tend to agree. The founding fathers didn't just sit down for 15 minutes and brainstorm the Constitution. They KNEW about tyrants. They READ their history books and paid attention to what went wrong, when and how. They argued fiercely for quite a long time back and forth, many of them attorneys versed in how the law can work for you or screw you, depending on how its written down to each crossed "t" and dotted "i".

They set up a system of checks and balances because they understood the male half of homo sapiens. [to them it was natural to conclude that a slave class would never rule]. They knew that any man, any where, any time was ultimately after getting laid and that any grappling for or acquisition of power would be shadowed by that persistent reality. And when it comes to power to impress the ladies, males tend to get really blind, really fast in their ambitions...

And this creates problems. Just pick up a history book and read it for the details. It's like this repetitive theme over and over and over...some male rising to power and getting WAY out of control with it. And usually some woman he likes is in the background pulling strings like Cleopatra..

So they drew up the Constitution to make sure some president didn't think it would be a great idea if he was just king. You'll have to forgive Corvis Rex. His name has "king" in it...lol.. But I get his frustrations with the asinine gridlock. I think his motivations are to take a sledgehammer to the gridlock using the EO. Can't really fault him for that.

In any event, his frustrations have born a good thread.

I still say, require all people in high levels of government to have

1. An advanced degree in science. I'd prefer as wide a spread as possible like environmental science where you have to visit many disciplines and come to know how they interact with each other.

2. A degree or minor in economics

3. Law degree not necessary and in fact a hinderance. Good ideas don't even make it off the lips of lawyers because they're always thinking "what if?". There's your gridlock. You get a bunch of lawyers always overthinking things and good ideas will never get off the ground. Lawyers should only be for consulting fine details once a good idea is being discussed.

4. A proficiency in human psychology.

5. At least 10 years working a shit job with the rest of the people.

6. Not born into money.

7. No single vestige or outward manifestation of narcissism. Make sure your candidate is a bit homely.

If Americans vetted their leaders in this way, our entire universe would change in the amount of time it would take to clean out Congress and replace them with qualified people.

Valid points. And completely ignoring the fact no one on this thread will ever rule the US, I will continue. If you read my proposal, you would indeed notice that it has checks and balances. I am however forced to admit my system would not be fool-proof. No system of government is. Eventually someone would fine a way to trash any system, no matter how elegantly conceived or how long it took to think of. For example, someone could pretend to be homely, not ambitious, get a degree in what you suggested, all the while being exactly what you strive to prevent. All of the arrogant people who wish to rule will merely have to bide their time and earn some degrees and be decent actors and professional liars (not like they aren't already) and then become President. Lastly, they show the world their true colors but it is too late to stop them.

 

[CorvusRexus]

If I ruled the US as President, my first action would be to sign an EO saying Congress nor the SCOCTUS have any right to strike down any EOs I may issue. Then, I would issue a second EO saying that a new Constitutional Convention is to be called with delegates from all states present elected for that one purpose, writing a new Constitution. I, naturally, would appoint myself President of the Convention. As president of it, I would try mainly to redefine and reinforce the protections and rights guaranteed by the Constitution, as well as reform the structure of Gov't.
I would make the Supreme Court have eleven justices: 5 elected from regions of the country, 3 appointed by the POTUS, and 1 elected by each chamber of the Congress (I would make three branches). Also, justices would have term limits and would be staggered to ensure each president gets to appoint so many. The Congress would have 3 houses: one proposing social laws, one for matters of economics, and another for world affairs. Each house would be comprised of 150 members, each state being granted 3 representatives. On matters of joint responsibility, one house may plead to the SCOTUS to review it and call for all houses involved together to vote on it. To pass a law, the proposing branch must achieve a 60% majority, followed by at least a 30% minority from the other houses. Each candidate is only allowed to be in 1 house at a time. The president would be forced to relinquish much power to an elected group of specialists similar to the Cabinet, and would be elected to 5 year terms, can be elected twice, and if a 80% majority of all houses vote so, a recall election may be held to throw out the old president.
What would you do?

No offense...but if you were ruler I would shoot myself dead.

Why?

 

[Imperious]

Muhahahaha Fascism against the masses! Totalitarian state here I come!

In all seriousness, I think the first step would be restructuring the whole economy, similar to Stalin's massive change of economy, I would bring all the industry back to the states, and restructure our entire infrastructure. Next step? Bring our troops home, from everywhere! Then we can gradually resend them where they are actually needed, like South Korea for example. Next, I would abolish the whole party system, that way we can all work together! This is all ALOT easier said than done, and I am assure problems would arise, but we could deal with those hand and hand! Although, I don't think China would like it very much if I brought our industry back where it belongs. This is why I would need to have mass meetings with our Allies, and talk to Russia about repairing our hindered relationship. Maybe I could help Putin look at American society differently! Russia would be a powerful ally. Lastly, would also invest in growing economies around the world, like Nigeria! I am sure there would be more to do aswell, but we would just have to see when I get into office!

What do you guys think? Would you support me?

 

[deltex1]

If I ruled the US as President, my first action would be to sign an EO saying Congress nor the SCOCTUS have any right to strike down any EOs I may issue. Then, I would issue a second EO saying that a new Constitutional Convention is to be called with delegates from all states present elected for that one purpose, writing a new Constitution. I, naturally, would appoint myself President of the Convention. As president of it, I would try mainly to redefine and reinforce the protections and rights guaranteed by the Constitution, as well as reform the structure of Gov't.
I would make the Supreme Court have eleven justices: 5 elected from regions of the country, 3 appointed by the POTUS, and 1 elected by each chamber of the Congress (I would make three branches). Also, justices would have term limits and would be staggered to ensure each president gets to appoint so many. The Congress would have 3 houses: one proposing social laws, one for matters of economics, and another for world affairs. Each house would be comprised of 150 members, each state being granted 3 representatives. On matters of joint responsibility, one house may plead to the SCOTUS to review it and call for all houses involved together to vote on it. To pass a law, the proposing branch must achieve a 60% majority, followed by at least a 30% minority from the other houses. Each candidate is only allowed to be in 1 house at a time. The president would be forced to relinquish much power to an elected group of specialists similar to the Cabinet, and would be elected to 5 year terms, can be elected twice, and if a 80% majority of all houses vote so, a recall election may be held to throw out the old president.
What would you do?

No offense...but if you were ruler I would shoot myself dead.

Why?

All of your adjustments will be in vain...you will still be faced with self serving morons in most positions...unless you have figured out a way to perfect humanity.

 

[Coyote]

If I ruled the US....I would make penalties for animal abuse equivalent to that of child abuse.


Then I'd probably get fired.

 

[Unkotare]

...you claim I am a child? ...

That is correct.

 

[OKTexas]

I would simply restore the Constitution as written, then if the people want to change it, that's what article 5 is for.

 

[DriftingSand]

I would simply restore the Constitution as written, then if the people want to change it, that's what article 5 is for.

Good answer. And I would also offer everyone hunting lessons.

 

[CorvusRexus]

Muhahahaha Fascism against the masses! Totalitarian state here I come!

In all seriousness, I think the first step would be restructuring the whole economy, similar to Stalin's massive change of economy, I would bring all the industry back to the states, and restructure our entire infrastructure. Next step? Bring our troops home, from everywhere! Then we can gradually resend them where they are actually needed, like South Korea for example. Next, I would abolish the whole party system, that way we can all work together! This is all ALOT easier said than done, and I am assure problems would arise, but we could deal with those hand and hand! Although, I don't think China would like it very much if I brought our industry back where it belongs. This is why I would need to have mass meetings with our Allies, and talk to Russia about repairing our hindered relationship. Maybe I could help Putin look at American society differently! Russia would be a powerful ally. Lastly, would also invest in growing economies around the world, like Nigeria! I am sure there would be more to do aswell, but we would just have to see when I get into office!

What do you guys think? Would you support me?

Finally! Someone else who believes the US should be strong allies with Russia! And you would abolish parties, too!

You bet you'd have my support.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Worst poll I think I've ever seen on here.

Not a single choice for rational adults.

 

[westwall]

keep it civil folks....

 

[Votto]

If I ruled the US as President, my first action would be to sign an EO saying Congress nor the SCOCTUS have any right to strike down any EOs I may issue. Then, I would issue a second EO saying that a new Constitutional Convention is to be called with delegates from all states present elected for that one purpose, writing a new Constitution. I, naturally, would appoint myself President of the Convention. As president of it, I would try mainly to redefine and reinforce the protections and rights guaranteed by the Constitution, as well as reform the structure of Gov't.
I would make the Supreme Court have eleven justices: 5 elected from regions of the country, 3 appointed by the POTUS, and 1 elected by each chamber of the Congress (I would make three branches). Also, justices would have term limits and would be staggered to ensure each president gets to appoint so many. The Congress would have 3 houses: one proposing social laws, one for matters of economics, and another for world affairs. Each house would be comprised of 150 members, each state being granted 3 representatives. On matters of joint responsibility, one house may plead to the SCOTUS to review it and call for all houses involved together to vote on it. To pass a law, the proposing branch must achieve a 60% majority, followed by at least a 30% minority from the other houses. Each candidate is only allowed to be in 1 house at a time. The president would be forced to relinquish much power to an elected group of specialists similar to the Cabinet, and would be elected to 5 year terms, can be elected twice, and if a 80% majority of all houses vote so, a recall election may be held to throw out the old president.
What would you do?

I would declare myself dictator and kill off any opponents. Then I would confiscate all the money in the nation and redistribute it the way I saw fit. But most importantly, I would confiscate all weapons before doing any of this cause I'm not stupid!

Then when I die I'll have my body mummified and put under glass. After all, I'm the man with all the power and all the answers. How can you ever live without me? This way, I will always be with you.

Damn, you say this has been done before?

 

[CorvusRexus]

If I ruled the US as President, my first action would be to sign an EO saying Congress nor the SCOCTUS have any right to strike down any EOs I may issue. Then, I would issue a second EO saying that a new Constitutional Convention is to be called with delegates from all states present elected for that one purpose, writing a new Constitution. I, naturally, would appoint myself President of the Convention. As president of it, I would try mainly to redefine and reinforce the protections and rights guaranteed by the Constitution, as well as reform the structure of Gov't.
I would make the Supreme Court have eleven justices: 5 elected from regions of the country, 3 appointed by the POTUS, and 1 elected by each chamber of the Congress (I would make three branches). Also, justices would have term limits and would be staggered to ensure each president gets to appoint so many. The Congress would have 3 houses: one proposing social laws, one for matters of economics, and another for world affairs. Each house would be comprised of 150 members, each state being granted 3 representatives. On matters of joint responsibility, one house may plead to the SCOTUS to review it and call for all houses involved together to vote on it. To pass a law, the proposing branch must achieve a 60% majority, followed by at least a 30% minority from the other houses. Each candidate is only allowed to be in 1 house at a time. The president would be forced to relinquish much power to an elected group of specialists similar to the Cabinet, and would be elected to 5 year terms, can be elected twice, and if a 80% majority of all houses vote so, a recall election may be held to throw out the old president.
What would you do?

I would declare myself dictator and kill off any opponents. Then I would confiscate all the money in the nation and redistribute it the way I saw fit. But most importantly, I would confiscate all weapons before doing any of this cause I'm not stupid!

Then when I die I'll have my body mummified and put under glass. After all, I'm the man with all the power and all the answers. How can you ever live without me? This way, I will always be with you.

Damn, you say this has been done before?

Better idea! You could militarize the country, take over the world, then have all of the world's scientists find a way to make you immortal! You could rule forever!

 

[guno]

I would keep the original Constitution intact but I would proclaim America a Christian nation. However, non-Christians could live here and be free to believe as they choose. I would maintain freedom of the press; freedom of speech; freedom of religion; etc.

Gun safety training and proper usage would be mandatory for children in the 7th grade and up. Law-abiding adults would be required to own a firearm and know how to use it. However, only folks who felt comfortable could open carry. Teachers, principles, pilots, bus drivers, etc. would be required to carry as a part of their job description.

Parents would be very closely involved with their children's education. Only true American history would be taught. Sex ed would be between parents and kids. That would give teachers more time to teach and focus on educational curriculum instead of condoms and kill-pills.

Abortion would be listed as 1st degree murder and anyone caught participating in that heinous act would get the death penalty. No appeals. Just sentencing, a last meal, and a rope.

Open homosexuality would be strictly banned. I would not concern myself or law enforcement with a person's sex life behind closed doors but any open activism (that is recruitment) would be punishable by law.

Violent criminals (murderers, rapists, molesters, etc.) who are convicted of a crime where it was proven that they were guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt (DNA evidence) would meet with a swift death penalty. No appeals. Just a last supper and a firing squad.

We would create a powerful military but we would NOT be the world's police dogs. We would only intervene if a nation asked for our help and we could end the conflict quickly and decisively.

Our borders would be completely sealed. Anyone who wished to enter the nation legally could apply. They would have to learn English and memorize the Constitution (at least the key points). They would remain crime-free and find gainful employment. No free handouts.

I would abolish the Federal Reserve Bank. Period!!!

Our domestic policy would emphasize charity amongst neighbors. Every male and female adult would be required to serve in the public sector for a period of 2 or three years. Their duties would require them to help the sick, elderly, orphans, and destitute. Our Welfare program would come from the hearts of the people instead of some elite legislatures sitting in some Washington D.C. throne.

"but I would proclaim America a Christian nation"

I would place all religious fundamentalist into mental institutions. Expand teaching science and promote rational thinking, change the government to a parliamentary type system

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Where the hell is the response I just posted?

 

[CorvusRexus]

Where the hell is the response I just posted?

Was it in the argument Unkotare and I had? That all got deleted.

 

[HenryBHough]

I would declare myself dictator and kill off any opponents. Then I would confiscate all the money in the nation and redistribute it the way I saw fit. But most importantly, I would confiscate all weapons before doing any of this cause I'm not stupid!

Then when I die I'll have my body mummified and put under glass. After all, I'm the man with all the power and all the answers. How can you ever live without me? This way, I will always be with you.

Damn, you say this has been done before?

Yup. In North Korea. Now much of that has been accomplished right here but you have a couple of more years to wait before it'll all be true. But just a couple.