Zone1 If you don't believe in God, it is far easier to murder

[rightwinger]

Hitler said he was a Christian

Do you believe that he actually was?



Christ is our example, so if you do not follow the example, you are not a follower of Christ no matter what you blabber on about.

Pretty simply really.

Yea…you can play that game
Renounce anyone who breaks the rules

Still most murderers believe in God

 

[Votto]

Yea…you can play that game
Renounce anyone who breaks the rules

Still most murderers believe in God

Actually, those that follow God are the ones are routinely targeted for murder.

Jesus once said, "Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world", in Luke 11:50.

And as we saw with Christ, he too was thrown to the wolves along with the 12 disciples and along with the early church.

What came later was horrific in terms of the gospel being subverted into human political power grabs, by persecuting Jews, persecuting anyone who disagreed with the church via inquisitions as they were burned at the stake, or Crusades to loot the Holy Land. Naturally, you could count them as no different that the prophets of old and the early Christian movement. This all happened once the Pope became a worldly political power piece, something Jesus never aspired to as he declined the masses trying to make him a worldly king time and again.

And why is this? Why do people of God have a target on their backs as Jesus once said, if they did this to me, they will do this to my followers? In fact, having that target on your back may be the evidence that you are a follower of Christ. It is because the truth offends. It should offend all of us. The difference between the world and the Christian is, the Christian accepts the truth and lets the surgeon use his blade to help save us rather than opposing the truth so that the same blade must cut us down for rejecting reality.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, those that follow God are the ones are routinely targeted for murder.

Jesus once said, "Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world", in Luke 11:50.

And as we saw with Christ, he too was thrown to the wolves along with the 12 disciples and along with the early church.

What came later was horrific in terms of the gospel being subverted into human political power grabs, by persecuting Jews, persecuting anyone who disagreed with the church via inquisitions as they were burned at the stake, or Crusades to loot the Holy Land. Naturally, you could count them as no different that the prophets of old and the early Christian movement. This all happened once the Pope became a worldly political power piece, something Jesus never aspired to as he declined the masses trying to make him a worldly king time and again.

And why is this? Why do people of God have a target on their backs as Jesus once said, if they did this to me, they will do this to my followers? In fact, having that target on your back may be the evidence that you are a follower of Christ. It is because the truth offends. It should offend all of us. The difference between the world and the Christian is, the Christian accepts the truth and lets the surgeon use his blade to help save us rather than opposing the truth so that the same blade must cut us down for rejecting reality.

Shows how ineffective your religion is

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I use factoid all the time instead of the more demanding or argumentative word "fact".
Factoid seems softer, but I never knew it meant untrue.<g>
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Dictionaries Appeasing Diploma Dumbos

Definition 2 is permissive, illiterate, and untrue. The suffix -oid means "not really," as in asteroid "only looks like a star," android "only looks like a man."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

A lot needs to be clarified here, I think.

First of all, the Bible does not say, "Thou shalt not kill". The proper translation is, "Thou shalt not murder, which is a huge difference.



Secondly, I think Charley was talking about the God of the Bible, and not a god manufactured in the minds of men, such as the god of Islam. Clearly, Islam does as Mohammad did, which was to convert with the sword. There is no such mandate in Christianity.

A Worm in the Nile Will Squirm in Denial

The translators of the Bible knew Hebrew and the difference between "kill" and "murder." You can't nitpick your way out of that fact. The rule of law is the rule of lawyers.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Atheists believe that man is simply a glorified animal, and as such, can be treated like an animal

The problem is, how do we treat animals?

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Clouds on "Both Sides Now"

Postmodern atheists are truly Satanic. We can't adopt a ruling-class religion because the rulers intentional make its alternative disgusting and socially destructive, which is their goal in everything these snakes hiss to us, which is adopted out of fear of overwhelming power and a desperate childish search for infallible father-figures.

Secular Humanism is not secular; it believes that Nature is supernatural. It is not humanist; it believes that humans are a crime against Nature.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Shows how ineffective your religion is

Parallel Delusions

Jesus, a power-freak who claimed to be the Son of God, designed it that way. This is so much like Marxists who claim that the Russians perverted their Utopia.