Zone1 If you don't believe in God, it is far easier to murder

[kyzr]

Move that goalpost
The thread title says “believe in god “ not attend church

Your turn
Show where most murderers are atheist

Simple factoid. THOU SHALT NOT KILL. If you believe in God you follow his commandments.
I can tell anyone anything, especially on death row looking for clemency.

 

[BreezeWood]

the desert bibles deaden natural spiritualism that lead desert dwellers to minimize the contents of their beliefs -

Florida’s Executions: Troubling Patterns of Secrecy and Inadequate Legal Representation​

not to mention the current genocide the jews are conducting in the middleast.

 

[rightwinger]

Simple factoid. THOU SHALT NOT KILL. If you believe in God you follow his commandments.
I can tell anyone anything, especially on death row looking for clemency.

Not that easy is it?

Christians routinely ignore those commandments but still believe in God

 

[Muhammed]

Logical, and as we see, whether in the womb or out of the womb, Chalie was spot on!!

If you're a Christian, Jesus died for your sins and you are forgiven. So, basically you can murder someone and still look forward to eternal bliss.

 

[Chuz Life]

Charlie was completely wrong. If you believe in God and an immortal soul, it is easy to kill since you're not really ending a life just sending it on it's way prematurely. Since I don't believe in God I feel that life is truly unique and only gets one chance so THIS life has great value since there is no next one.

Correct me if I am as wrong as you say Charlie was. . . but don't people who "believe in God" also believe they will burn in hell for an eternity for murdering someone? Even if they are sending their murder victim's souls to "God" prematurely?

 

[pinqy]

Simple factoid. THOU SHALT NOT KILL. If you believe in God you follow his commandments.

Have you read the Old Testament? God commanded his followers to kill a lot of people.
And, of course, heresy/blasphemy has carried the death penalty in pretty much every country with an official religion.

 

[kyzr]

Have you read the Old Testament? God commanded his followers to kill a lot of people.
And, of course, heresy/blasphemy has carried the death penalty in pretty much every country with an official religion.

Actually I believe the Old Testament was superseded by the New Testament.

Moving cave men into more civilized men.

 

[pinqy]

Actually I believe the Old Testament was superseded by the New Testament.

Moving cave men into more civilized men.

So “Thou shalt not kill,” has been superseded and is no longer applicable? There is no specific rule against killing in the New Testsment.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Logical, and as we see, whether in the womb or out of the womb, Chalie was spot on!!

Elastic Elitism

You're stretching it just as much as pacifist Christians do by opposing capital punishment and military service. More evidence that Jesus was hired by the Romans to preach turning the other cheek.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Simple factoid. THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

The Media Aren't Hired for Their Language Skills

That's not what "factoid" means. The Lazy Language Lords just make up meanings because they're too stupid to understand any complicated ones.

As coined by Norman Mailer, a factoid is something that is not true but has the effect of a verified fact. For example, that Gore, Hillary, and Trump "won" the Popular Vote, when actually none of them got over 50% of it. It wouldn't have made them winners if we got rid of the Electoral College.

 

[alang1216]

Correct me if I am as wrong as you say Charlie was. . . but don't people who "believe in God" also believe they will burn in hell for an eternity for murdering someone? Even if they are sending their murder victim's souls to "God" prematurely?

Burning in hell is a Christian thing but so is forgiveness. Every Christian will admit they are a sinner but hardly any believe they will ultimately end up in hell.

 

[toobfreak]

If you don't believe in God, it is far easier to murder​

Well of course. That is the entire point to atheism.

• With God, there are consequences to bad actions, you are watched, you will be judged, God has sin and penalties.
• Without God, anything goes, no consequences if you don't get caught. Man is his own judge. Anything goes.

 

[rightwinger]

Well of course. That is the entire point to atheism.

• With God, there are consequences to bad actions, you are watched, you will be judged, God has sin and penalties.
• Without God, anything goes, no consequences if you don't get caught. Man is his own judge. Anything goes.

Most convicted of murder are Christians

 

[kyzr]

So “Thou shalt not kill,” has been superseded and is no longer applicable? There is no specific rule against killing in the New Testament.

Its covered, a lot...

35 Important Bible Verses About Killing In The New Testament (Explained) - Bible Repository

“You shall not murder.” – Exodus 20:13

biblerepository.com

 

[kyzr]

The Media Aren't Hired for Their Language Skills
That's not what "factoid" means. The Lazy Language Lords just make up meanings because they're too stupid to understand any complicated ones.
As coined by Norman Mailer, a factoid is something that is not true but has the effect of a verified fact. For example, that Gore, Hillary, and Trump "won" the Popular Vote, when actually none of them got over 50% of it. It wouldn't have made them winners if we got rid of the Electoral College.

I use factoid all the time instead of the more demanding or argumentative word "fact".
Factoid seems softer, but I never knew it meant untrue.<g>

 

[Chuz Life]

Burning in hell is a Christian thing but so is forgiveness. Every Christian will admit they are a sinner but hardly any believe they will ultimately end up in hell.

Being a murderer just might tip the scales on some
thoughts on that.

 

[Votto]

Most convicted of murder are Christians

Hitler said he was a Christian

Do you believe that he actually was?



Christ is our example, so if you do not follow the example, you are not a follower of Christ no matter what you blabber on about.

Pretty simply really.

 

[Votto]

Elastic Elitism

You're stretching it just as much as pacifist Christians do by opposing capital punishment and military service. More evidence that Jesus was hired by the Romans to preach turning the other cheek.

A lot needs to be clarified here, I think.

First of all, the Bible does not say, "Thou shalt not kill". The proper translation is, "Thou shalt not murder, which is a huge difference.



Secondly, I think Charley was talking about the God of the Bible, and not a god manufactured in the minds of men, such as the god of Islam. Clearly, Islam does as Mohammad did, which was to convert with the sword. There is no such mandate in Christianity.

 

[Votto]

Well of course. That is the entire point to atheism.

• With God, there are consequences to bad actions, you are watched, you will be judged, God has sin and penalties.
• Without God, anything goes, no consequences if you don't get caught. Man is his own judge. Anything goes.

Atheists believe that man is simply a glorified animal, and as such, can be treated like an animal

The problem is, how do we treat animals?

 

[Votto]

Say what you will about Christians being "murderous".

But all can see how the Left, which seems to be about 99.9% godless, is assassinating people around the US who offend them

But the parrot in the cave is not just the act of murder we see, such as Charlie or trying to off Trump or Kavanaugh or the entire GOP Congress.

No, the parrot in the cave is the reaction as the loons come out in mass to celebrate it and tear down memorials like the animals they picture themselves as being.

There is no real comparison on the Right of the political spectrum.

In fact, we have democrats running for political office now who have said they wanted their opponent murdered along with his children. Not only is he still up for election, democrats have come out to support him.

Again, there is no comparison to this on the right

None.

Democrats simple see their version of "social justice", and will murder whoever they need to in order to accomplish it, which they never do.