If we take away the Nationalistic ideals

[ricechickie]

Let me tell you, I think black pride is stupid, too. But the origin comes from a reaction to black shame, which was a real thing. Spend every day of your life being told that you are, and treated as, "less than" because of your skin color and tell me you wouldn't go radically in the opposite direction. It's like reprogramming.

I understand that. I also understand this is 2017. You cant move forward when you are running from the past.

Read some of the posts on here. It's not the past.

It's better, but black people (and other minorities ) still encounter treatment that ranges from mildly racist to downright hateful.

That's why I ask people if they really know any black people, well enough to talk to them about this stuff. We need to listen to and understand other people's experiences, before we start telling them how to feel.

Seriously, you seem to think there's some huge "black privilege" out there, which runs directly counter to the people who get stopped for driving while black, or who get the cop's gun pulled on them before a word is spoken, or who get followed suspiciously in stores, or who might get resumes tossed into the trash for an ethnic sounding name.

 

[TNHarley]

and paint their skin black, they would be called "civil rights activists"
I have to assume that is the reason for all this disingenuous bullshit against trump over the assholes in Charlottesville. The bigotry against whites.
Look at this bullshit
I googled :
Black pride : Black pride is a movement in response to dominant white cultures and ideologies that encourages black people to celebrate black culture and embrace their African heritage. In the United States, it was a direct response to white racism especially during the Civil Rights Movement.
White pride : White pride is a motto primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints.
The amount of hypocrisy and hate is massive. Sad.

Both are generational, and feed off of each other. Most Americans like or dislike people based on their character, not their color; most Americans believe everyone should enjoy equal rights and equal opportunity for every citizen regardless of their color, ethnicity, creed, gender, sexual orientation or disabilities. Bigots, racists and misogynists do not.

I agree. I think a small percentage of our country is actually racist, they are just getting in the limelight more.

 

[TNHarley]

Read some of the posts on here. It's not the past.

It's better, but black people (and other minorities ) still encounter treatment that ranges from mildly racist to downright hateful.

That's why I ask people if they really know any black people, well enough to talk to them about this stuff. We need to listen to and understand other people's experiences, before we start telling them how to feel.

Seriously, you seem to think there's some huge "black privilege" out there, which runs directly counter to the people who get stopped for driving while black, or who get the cop's gun pulled on them before a word is spoken, or who get followed suspiciously in stores, or who might get resumes tossed into the trash for an ethnic sounding name.

so do white people, rice. So do white people.
Its always about the black people, isnt it? Their racism against whites doesnt even get mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

 

[OldLady]

You know what i am talking about rice. My gawd woman. Dont stroke out

No, I really don't. But I want to know. Let's talk. Lay it all out, TN.

Read the OP again. Read my other posts in here. It is quit obvious what my point was.
Its not about saying the word ****** or getting arrested for a couple grams of pot.

I did pass 8th grade, so I read it just fine. You said take away the nationalist agenda and change the skin tone, and skinheads would be called "civil rights activists."

Then you cried about the differences in the definitions between black pride and white pride.

Then you said black people can do whatever they want. Seemed like a whine, really.

I don't understand any of it. The definitions are different because that's how our language is. Definitions don't always have logical parity.

The difference between skinheads and civil rights activists has a LOT to do with those "nationalistic ideals" and skin color.....along with the agenda of exclusion

I am baffled by your assertion that black people can do whatever they want. That's why I want you to explain.

I was referring to my OP Damn..
The blacks can burn down buildings, shoot people, attack people, scream "burn this mother fucker down" burn down innocent peoples homes, loot stores and its ok. Obama doesnt have to say anything about it except "i condemn these actions." White people go to rally and violence breaks out and trump does the same thing. COMPLETE OUTRAGE. He has to get specific so disingenuous hacks can feel accomplished.
Blacks can do what they want. Why do their actions get overlooked? Sounds like racism, im just not sure what color it is against..

Who said it was ok for black people to do all that stuff? Those who could be identified should be arrested. Obama condemned the looters and rioters. He didn't hold back, or hedge about "both sides."

What exactly did you want done differently?

I remember Obama's remarks during the Ferguson riots. When he said the looters weren't protesting, they were stealing--I thought to myself, oohh, I wouldn't want to be his girls when they got out of line. Daddy was pissed and rightly so. <chuckle>

 

[william the wie]

Its amazing how after the Nazis showed their asses this weekend by saluting the Nazis, wearing swastikas and one of them carry killed a woman, that it is still somehow black people's fault.

Did you randomly post that in this thread?
Did you read the OP?

You don't expect numeracy from the left so why expect literacy?

 

[TNHarley]

No, I really don't. But I want to know. Let's talk. Lay it all out, TN.

Read the OP again. Read my other posts in here. It is quit obvious what my point was.
Its not about saying the word ****** or getting arrested for a couple grams of pot.

I did pass 8th grade, so I read it just fine. You said take away the nationalist agenda and change the skin tone, and skinheads would be called "civil rights activists."

Then you cried about the differences in the definitions between black pride and white pride.

Then you said black people can do whatever they want. Seemed like a whine, really.

I don't understand any of it. The definitions are different because that's how our language is. Definitions don't always have logical parity.

The difference between skinheads and civil rights activists has a LOT to do with those "nationalistic ideals" and skin color.....along with the agenda of exclusion

I am baffled by your assertion that black people can do whatever they want. That's why I want you to explain.

I was referring to my OP Damn..
The blacks can burn down buildings, shoot people, attack people, scream "burn this mother fucker down" burn down innocent peoples homes, loot stores and its ok. Obama doesnt have to say anything about it except "i condemn these actions." White people go to rally and violence breaks out and trump does the same thing. COMPLETE OUTRAGE. He has to get specific so disingenuous hacks can feel accomplished.
Blacks can do what they want. Why do their actions get overlooked? Sounds like racism, im just not sure what color it is against..

Who said it was ok for black people to do all that stuff? Those who could be identified should be arrested. Obama condemned the looters and rioters. He didn't hold back, or hedge about "both sides."

What exactly did you want done differently?

I remember Obama's remarks during the Ferguson riots. When he said the looters weren't protesting, they were stealing--I thought to myself, oohh, I wouldn't want to be his girls when they got out of line. Daddy was pissed and rightly so. <chuckle>

 

[hazlnut]

and paint their skin black, they would be called "civil rights activists"
I have to assume that is the reason for all this disingenuous bullshit against trump over the assholes in Charlottesville. The bigotry against whites.
Look at this bullshit
I googled :
Black pride : Black pride is a movement in response to dominant white cultures and ideologies that encourages black people to celebrate black culture and embrace their African heritage. In the United States, it was a direct response to white racism especially during the Civil Rights Movement.
White pride : White pride is a motto primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints.
The amount of hypocrisy and hate is massive. Sad.

Racist pig boys are showing what cry-babies they are.



America has spoken, Kessler chased down and tacked in the bushes.

 

[ricechickie]

Read some of the posts on here. It's not the past.

It's better, but black people (and other minorities ) still encounter treatment that ranges from mildly racist to downright hateful.

That's why I ask people if they really know any black people, well enough to talk to them about this stuff. We need to listen to and understand other people's experiences, before we start telling them how to feel.

Seriously, you seem to think there's some huge "black privilege" out there, which runs directly counter to the people who get stopped for driving while black, or who get the cop's gun pulled on them before a word is spoken, or who get followed suspiciously in stores, or who might get resumes tossed into the trash for an ethnic sounding name.

so do white people, rice. So do white people.
Its always about the black people, isnt it? Their racism against whites doesnt even get mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

How much racism do you encounter daily, TN?

 

[ricechickie]

Read some of the posts on here. It's not the past.

It's better, but black people (and other minorities ) still encounter treatment that ranges from mildly racist to downright hateful.

That's why I ask people if they really know any black people, well enough to talk to them about this stuff. We need to listen to and understand other people's experiences, before we start telling them how to feel.

Seriously, you seem to think there's some huge "black privilege" out there, which runs directly counter to the people who get stopped for driving while black, or who get the cop's gun pulled on them before a word is spoken, or who get followed suspiciously in stores, or who might get resumes tossed into the trash for an ethnic sounding name.

so do white people, rice. So do white people.
Its always about the black people, isnt it? Their racism against whites doesnt even get mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

How much racism do you encounter daily, TN?

AND why do you think the question is funny?

 

[TNHarley]

Read some of the posts on here. It's not the past.

It's better, but black people (and other minorities ) still encounter treatment that ranges from mildly racist to downright hateful.

That's why I ask people if they really know any black people, well enough to talk to them about this stuff. We need to listen to and understand other people's experiences, before we start telling them how to feel.

Seriously, you seem to think there's some huge "black privilege" out there, which runs directly counter to the people who get stopped for driving while black, or who get the cop's gun pulled on them before a word is spoken, or who get followed suspiciously in stores, or who might get resumes tossed into the trash for an ethnic sounding name.

so do white people, rice. So do white people.
Its always about the black people, isnt it? Their racism against whites doesnt even get mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

How much racism do you encounter daily, TN?

AND why do you think the question is funny?

It has nothing to do with one individual. It is about the country. Hell, there is MANY black racists on here. It was funny you mentioned that BTW... proved my point

 

[Wry Catcher]

Read some of the posts on here. It's not the past.

It's better, but black people (and other minorities ) still encounter treatment that ranges from mildly racist to downright hateful.

That's why I ask people if they really know any black people, well enough to talk to them about this stuff. We need to listen to and understand other people's experiences, before we start telling them how to feel.

Seriously, you seem to think there's some huge "black privilege" out there, which runs directly counter to the people who get stopped for driving while black, or who get the cop's gun pulled on them before a word is spoken, or who get followed suspiciously in stores, or who might get resumes tossed into the trash for an ethnic sounding name.

so do white people, rice. So do white people.
Its always about the black people, isnt it? Their racism against whites doesnt even get mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

White people are rarely profiled in our society. Blacks are regularly, that can't be denied. The reasons are numerous, and it is the responsibility of parents to teach by word and action that to prejudge a person by their color, speech or dress is wrong.

 

[TNHarley]

Read some of the posts on here. It's not the past.

It's better, but black people (and other minorities ) still encounter treatment that ranges from mildly racist to downright hateful.

That's why I ask people if they really know any black people, well enough to talk to them about this stuff. We need to listen to and understand other people's experiences, before we start telling them how to feel.

Seriously, you seem to think there's some huge "black privilege" out there, which runs directly counter to the people who get stopped for driving while black, or who get the cop's gun pulled on them before a word is spoken, or who get followed suspiciously in stores, or who might get resumes tossed into the trash for an ethnic sounding name.

so do white people, rice. So do white people.
Its always about the black people, isnt it? Their racism against whites doesnt even get mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

White people are not profiled in our society. Blacks are, that can't be denied. The reasons are numerous, and it is the responsibility of parents to teach by word and action that to prejudge a person by their color, speech or dress is wrong.

White people arent profiled by the institution because most of them are white. White people are a big majority of the people in this country.
The individuals racism cant be denied.

 

[ricechickie]

Read some of the posts on here. It's not the past.

It's better, but black people (and other minorities ) still encounter treatment that ranges from mildly racist to downright hateful.

That's why I ask people if they really know any black people, well enough to talk to them about this stuff. We need to listen to and understand other people's experiences, before we start telling them how to feel.

Seriously, you seem to think there's some huge "black privilege" out there, which runs directly counter to the people who get stopped for driving while black, or who get the cop's gun pulled on them before a word is spoken, or who get followed suspiciously in stores, or who might get resumes tossed into the trash for an ethnic sounding name.

so do white people, rice. So do white people.
Its always about the black people, isnt it? Their racism against whites doesnt even get mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

How much racism do you encounter daily, TN?

AND why do you think the question is funny?

It has nothing to do with one individual. It is about the country. Hell, there is MANY black racists on here. It was funny you mentioned that BTW... proved my point

You live in a pretty much white area, right?

You can go a long time without interacting with a minority?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I probably have experienced more anti-white racism than you have. It causes bad feelings, but it doesn't affect my ability to live or make a living. In general, it has no teeth.

Black people can't go live somewhere in the US where they won't see white people, and so experience white racism. Even if a small percentage are racists, it adds up to an almost daily occurrence. And these are more likely to be people in power, who can affect their ability to live and make a living.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[TNHarley]

Read some of the posts on here. It's not the past.

It's better, but black people (and other minorities ) still encounter treatment that ranges from mildly racist to downright hateful.

That's why I ask people if they really know any black people, well enough to talk to them about this stuff. We need to listen to and understand other people's experiences, before we start telling them how to feel.

Seriously, you seem to think there's some huge "black privilege" out there, which runs directly counter to the people who get stopped for driving while black, or who get the cop's gun pulled on them before a word is spoken, or who get followed suspiciously in stores, or who might get resumes tossed into the trash for an ethnic sounding name.

so do white people, rice. So do white people.
Its always about the black people, isnt it? Their racism against whites doesnt even get mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

How much racism do you encounter daily, TN?

AND why do you think the question is funny?

It has nothing to do with one individual. It is about the country. Hell, there is MANY black racists on here. It was funny you mentioned that BTW... proved my point

You live in a pretty much white area, right?

You can go a long time without interacting with a minority?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I probably have experienced more anti-white racism than you have. It causes bad feelings, but it doesn't affect my ability to live or make a living. In general, it has no teeth.

Black people can't go live somewhere in the US where they won't see white people, and so experience white racism. Even if a small percentage are racists, it adds up to an almost daily occurrence. And these are more likely to be people in power, who can affect their ability to live and make a living.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

There is nothing there to correct. However, racism is still racism and my point stands.

 

[ricechickie]

so do white people, rice. So do white people.
Its always about the black people, isnt it? Their racism against whites doesnt even get mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

How much racism do you encounter daily, TN?

AND why do you think the question is funny?

It has nothing to do with one individual. It is about the country. Hell, there is MANY black racists on here. It was funny you mentioned that BTW... proved my point

You live in a pretty much white area, right?

You can go a long time without interacting with a minority?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I probably have experienced more anti-white racism than you have. It causes bad feelings, but it doesn't affect my ability to live or make a living. In general, it has no teeth.

Black people can't go live somewhere in the US where they won't see white people, and so experience white racism. Even if a small percentage are racists, it adds up to an almost daily occurrence. And these are more likely to be people in power, who can affect their ability to live and make a living.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

There is nothing there to correct. However, racism is still racism and my point stands.

You're drawing false parallels, when racism's harmful effects are mitigated by the power held by the racist.

Assault is assault, too, right? I was assaulted at work. Sounds pretty bad until I tell you I was hit by a Kindergartener.

 

[TNHarley]

How much racism do you encounter daily, TN?

AND why do you think the question is funny?

It has nothing to do with one individual. It is about the country. Hell, there is MANY black racists on here. It was funny you mentioned that BTW... proved my point

You live in a pretty much white area, right?

You can go a long time without interacting with a minority?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I probably have experienced more anti-white racism than you have. It causes bad feelings, but it doesn't affect my ability to live or make a living. In general, it has no teeth.

Black people can't go live somewhere in the US where they won't see white people, and so experience white racism. Even if a small percentage are racists, it adds up to an almost daily occurrence. And these are more likely to be people in power, who can affect their ability to live and make a living.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

There is nothing there to correct. However, racism is still racism and my point stands.

You're drawing false parallels, when racism's harmful effects are mitigated by the power held by the racist.

Assault is assault, too, right? I was assaulted at work. Sounds pretty bad until I tell you I was hit by a Kindergartener.

Well, i dont think i am.
Is burning down innocent peoples homes and shooting innocent white people not harmful? Or are we going to ignore that part like you do others?

 

[TNHarley]

And Kindergarteners are NO joke! lol

 

[Avatar4321]

Take away the nationalistic ideals and you just have socialism instead of national socialism

 

[ricechickie]

AND why do you think the question is funny?

It has nothing to do with one individual. It is about the country. Hell, there is MANY black racists on here. It was funny you mentioned that BTW... proved my point

You live in a pretty much white area, right?

You can go a long time without interacting with a minority?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I probably have experienced more anti-white racism than you have. It causes bad feelings, but it doesn't affect my ability to live or make a living. In general, it has no teeth.

Black people can't go live somewhere in the US where they won't see white people, and so experience white racism. Even if a small percentage are racists, it adds up to an almost daily occurrence. And these are more likely to be people in power, who can affect their ability to live and make a living.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

There is nothing there to correct. However, racism is still racism and my point stands.

You're drawing false parallels, when racism's harmful effects are mitigated by the power held by the racist.

Assault is assault, too, right? I was assaulted at work. Sounds pretty bad until I tell you I was hit by a Kindergartener.

Well, i dont think i am.
Is burning down innocent peoples homes and shooting innocent white people not harmful? Or are we going to ignore that part like you do others?

Those are crimes and should be prosecuted. Do you think every bit of black crime is racially motivated?

I guess I'm still confused. Do you think the rioters and violent mobs are considered "civil rights activists"?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

If we take away the Nationalistic ideals

You're left with your everyday white supremacist with no aspirations.