If we could weaken China's economy

[Blues Man]

By buying less of the crap that is manufactured there. Would you opt to buy less crap and instead pay a little bit more for the things you need and stop buying the things you don't need ?

 

[Smokin' OP]

By buying less of the crap that is manufactured there would you opt to buy less crap and instead pay a little bit more for the things you need and stop buying the things you don't need?

Sure..................
Teabaggers had no problem with Trump exiting the TPP deal?

www.forbes.com › sites › stuartandersonTrump’s Exit From Asian Trade Pact Damaged America, Boosted China​

Oct 4, 2021 · Donald Trump’s decision to pull the United States out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership created an opening for China and will continue to put U.S. workers and companies at a competitive disadvantage.


time.com › 4579580 › china-donald-trump-tpp-obamaDonald Trump's Withdrawal From TPP Opens Door for China | Time

Nov 22, 2016 · The TPP, which was signed in 2015 between a dozen countries that comprise 40% of the global economy but has yet to be ratified, was “a potential disaster for our country,” said Trump, adding...


On 23 January 2017, US President Donald Trump signed a presidential memorandum to withdraw the United States' signature from the agreement, making its ratification as it was in February 2016 virtually impossible.

Centerpiece of Trump's trade deal with China 'failed ...​

Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2021/02/09 › trump-china-trade-de...

Feb 8, 2021 — The U.S. and China signed the “phase one” trade agreement in January 2020, and its “centerpiece” was China's pledge to purchase $200 billion ...

China-Led Trade Pact Is Signed, in Challenge to US​

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2020/11/15 › business › chin...

Nov 24, 2020 — China-Led Trade Pact Is Signed, in Challenge to U.S.. The deal sealed on Sunday stands as a potent symbol of Beijing's growing economic sway ...

 

[Blues Man]

Sure..................
Teabaggers had no problem with Trump exiting the TPP deal?

www.forbes.com › sites › stuartandersonTrump’s Exit From Asian Trade Pact Damaged America, Boosted China​

Oct 4, 2021 · Donald Trump’s decision to pull the United States out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership created an opening for China and will continue to put U.S. workers and companies at a competitive disadvantage.


time.com › 4579580 › china-donald-trump-tpp-obamaDonald Trump's Withdrawal From TPP Opens Door for China | Time

Nov 22, 2016 · The TPP, which was signed in 2015 between a dozen countries that comprise 40% of the global economy but has yet to be ratified, was “a potential disaster for our country,” said Trump, adding...


On 23 January 2017, US President Donald Trump signed a presidential memorandum to withdraw the United States' signature from the agreement, making its ratification as it was in February 2016 virtually impossible.

Centerpiece of Trump's trade deal with China 'failed ...​

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Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2021/02/09 › trump-china-trade-de...

Feb 8, 2021 — The U.S. and China signed the “phase one” trade agreement in January 2020, and its “centerpiece” was China's pledge to purchase $200 billion ...

China-Led Trade Pact Is Signed, in Challenge to US​

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The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2020/11/15 › business › chin...

Nov 24, 2020 — China-Led Trade Pact Is Signed, in Challenge to U.S.. The deal sealed on Sunday stands as a potent symbol of Beijing's growing economic sway ...

This isn;t about Trump

So take your obsession with him somewhere else.

 

[Smokin' OP]

This isn;t about Trump

So take your obsession with him somewhere else.

Trump was president and made the policy decisions............. FOR America.
Just Obama did signing the TPP.
Just like Bush did with Iraq.

 

[Blues Man]

Here is a perfect example

How Many Shoes Does The Average American Own?

According to a recent study, the average American owns about seven pairs of shoes. This number may seem high to some, but it's quite low

shoesrack.com.au

who the fuck needs 26 pairs of shoes?

Even if you have to wear business attire every day men really only need one good pair of black and one good pair of brown shoes. For the weekend a decent pair of casual shoes or boots and some sneakers

 

[Blues Man]

Trump was president and made the policy decisions............. FOR America.
Just Obama did signing the TPP.
Just like Bush did with Iraq.

And none of them have anything to do with this thread.

 

[pknopp]

Trump was president and made the policy decisions............. FOR America.
Just Obama did signing the TPP.
Just like Bush did with Iraq.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/politics/hillary-clinton-opposes-tpp/index.html

 

[Smokin' OP]

And none of them have anything to do with this thread.

BS............"If we could weaken China's economy"?

After we emboldened their economy?
The horse has left the barn.

US citizens could try to put the genie back in the bottle, but right now, what are their choices?

 

[Blues Man]

BS............"If we could weaken China's economy"?

After we emboldened their economy?
The horse has left the barn.

US citizens could try to put the genie back in the bottle, but right now, what are their choices?

Did you read past the first few words of post?

I don't think so.

It's about the public changing buying habits in case you're having trouble figuring it out.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sure..................
Teabaggers had no problem with Trump exiting the TPP deal?

www.forbes.com › sites › stuartandersonTrump’s Exit From Asian Trade Pact Damaged America, Boosted China​

Oct 4, 2021 · Donald Trump’s decision to pull the United States out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership created an opening for China and will continue to put U.S. workers and companies at a competitive disadvantage.


time.com › 4579580 › china-donald-trump-tpp-obamaDonald Trump's Withdrawal From TPP Opens Door for China | Time

Nov 22, 2016 · The TPP, which was signed in 2015 between a dozen countries that comprise 40% of the global economy but has yet to be ratified, was “a potential disaster for our country,” said Trump, adding...


On 23 January 2017, US President Donald Trump signed a presidential memorandum to withdraw the United States' signature from the agreement, making its ratification as it was in February 2016 virtually impossible.

Centerpiece of Trump's trade deal with China 'failed ...​

View attachment 772647
Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2021/02/09 › trump-china-trade-de...

Feb 8, 2021 — The U.S. and China signed the “phase one” trade agreement in January 2020, and its “centerpiece” was China's pledge to purchase $200 billion ...

China-Led Trade Pact Is Signed, in Challenge to US​

View attachment 772645
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2020/11/15 › business › chin...

Nov 24, 2020 — China-Led Trade Pact Is Signed, in Challenge to U.S.. The deal sealed on Sunday stands as a potent symbol of Beijing's growing economic sway ...

Trump wanted to cut a better deal for America. That's one of the reasons the CCP teamed up with the democrat Party to unleash a bioweapon to interfere with the election to get their puppet into the White House

 

[pknopp]

Trump wanted to cut a better deal for America. That's one of the reasons the CCP teamed up with the democrat Party to unleash a bioweapon to interfere with the election to get their puppet into the White House

But he was in way over his head and left China with his tail between his legs.

 

[Blues Man]

Trump wanted to cut a better deal for America. That's one of the reasons the CCP teamed up with the democrat Party to unleash a bioweapon to interfere with the election to get their puppet into the White House

Jesus Fucking H Christ people

can't you talk about anything other than out corrupt politicians?

 

[Smokin' OP]

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/politics/hillary-clinton-opposes-tpp/index.html

In the end she WAS against it.

“I have said from the very beginning that we had to have a trade agreement that would create good American jobs, raise wages and advance our national security and I still believe that is the high bar we have to meet,” Clinton said.

She added: “I don’t believe it’s going to meet the high bar I have set.”

Before she was for it.

As secretary of state, Clinton actively advocated for the TPP. In fact, she did so 45 times between 2010 and 2013.

I would be concerned, not only with American jobs but more importantly, achieving an alternative to China trade.
Something Clinton overlooked in my opinion.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Did you read past the first few words of post?

I don't think so.

It's about the public changing buying habits in case you're having trouble figuring it out.

WTF?
Did you read my last sentence?

"US citizens could try to put the genie back in the bottle, but right now, what are their choices"?

 

[candycorn]

Price is king. It's been that way for as long as anyone can remember.

It would be nice if we had an economy where there were some built in safety nets to where consumers didn't have to look for the cheapest price for a bar of soap or laundry detergent but we are there because companies have decided it's better business to please the investors than to please their employees.

 

[Blues Man]

WTF?
Did you read my last sentence?

"US citizens could try to put the genie back in the bottle, but right now, what are their choices"?

Their choices are to stop buying shit they don't actually need.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Trump wanted to cut a better deal for America. That's one of the reasons the CCP teamed up with the democrat Party to unleash a bioweapon to interfere with the election to get their puppet into the White House

Q-NUTS come up with some of the nuttiest, but funny theories.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Their choices are to stop buying shit they don't actually need.

That is true.
But just the shit people need, is quite a bit.


Now, corporations are using the walmart trick of claiming their product is made in America...........from parts made, elsewhere.

 

[pknopp]

Their choices are to stop buying shit they don't actually need.

Here is the problem with this. Businesses can get tax breaks for moving production to China.

Trump-GOP Tax Law Encourages Companies to Move Jobs Offshore–and New Tax Cuts Won’t Change That

Now we are suppose to be able to negate the actions of the government? I need a new pair of tennis shoes and I'm suppose to find a pair online that are made in America because the government encouraged business to offshore?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Sure..................
Teabaggers had no problem with Trump exiting the TPP deal?

www.forbes.com › sites › stuartandersonTrump’s Exit From Asian Trade Pact Damaged America, Boosted China​

Oct 4, 2021 · Donald Trump’s decision to pull the United States out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership created an opening for China and will continue to put U.S. workers and companies at a competitive disadvantage.


time.com › 4579580 › china-donald-trump-tpp-obamaDonald Trump's Withdrawal From TPP Opens Door for China | Time

Nov 22, 2016 · The TPP, which was signed in 2015 between a dozen countries that comprise 40% of the global economy but has yet to be ratified, was “a potential disaster for our country,” said Trump, adding...


On 23 January 2017, US President Donald Trump signed a presidential memorandum to withdraw the United States' signature from the agreement, making its ratification as it was in February 2016 virtually impossible.

Centerpiece of Trump's trade deal with China 'failed ...​

View attachment 772647
Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2021/02/09 › trump-china-trade-de...

Feb 8, 2021 — The U.S. and China signed the “phase one” trade agreement in January 2020, and its “centerpiece” was China's pledge to purchase $200 billion ...

China-Led Trade Pact Is Signed, in Challenge to US​

View attachment 772645
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2020/11/15 › business › chin...

Nov 24, 2020 — China-Led Trade Pact Is Signed, in Challenge to U.S.. The deal sealed on Sunday stands as a potent symbol of Beijing's growing economic sway ...

A report claimed fhat TPP cost Canada many jobs. More free trade wih low wage coountries only gusrsntees the shift of more manufacturng. You ca't ciinsume if unemployed. America already has trade deals with most of the TPP countries, U.S manufacturers just want to ship jobs faster for more profit. Free Trade has to be among nations with similar systems and basic regulations