If Trump had truly wanted to get a deal done with Ukraine, he...

[Zincwarrior]

HUH?

HOW?

What is the US benefit to supporting Russia?

 

[Contumacious]

you act like the invasion was the beginning of Russia's aggression against Ukraine.
It wasn't. They invaded Crimea in 2014 and have been waging low level war in the Donbas since then.

This wasn't about NATO membership. It was about Putin thinking he could pull of a quick win with a new US president and an undermined NATO.

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT

 

[Contumacious]

What is the US benefit to supporting Russia?

What is the US benefit to supporting Russia?

What is the US benefit to supporting Ukraine?

 

[Contumacious]

Just imagine if Trump began his so called negotiations by speaking with our ally, Ukraine first and what Zelensky and the Ukrainians needed instead of Russia and Putin first....giving Ukraine the visible support as Trump chose to give the enemy and war criminals....in Putin's regime. The President's power and leverage would have given Zelensky and Ukraine a better positioning, and not Russia's war criminal Putin, every single thing Putin wanted.

Your premise is all wrong

Putin invaded Ukraine for exactly the same reason JFK blockaded Cuba in 1962.

 

[JoeB131]

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT

Look, everyone, another Russian Troll.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

What stalemate? Who says it’s a stalemate? I say Putin’s looking for a bail out.

It’s a stalemate right now. And that’s with all of our support. Putin looking for a way out is a good thing. You have to negotiate from there. But to think he’s just going to walk away to the previous borders is ******* stupid.

 

[Slade3200]

You can certainly extrapolate what occurred during the 'Pep Talk" democrats gave Zelensky by his atrocious behavior.

You can certainly try to extrapolate…. and sound like a moron. The pep talk had Lindsey Graham in it dufus

 

[Clipper]

Nah... If he had any serious shit on Trump he would have spilled it when Trump hit him with all those sanctions last time around.

Trump has enough brain room to understand that someone's lying to him. The Big Z thinks he's an honorary American Democrat or something. He really thought he could go into the oval office and just push Trump around and walke out of there with a check for 250B.

Trump is only willing to put in effort to stop the war ... He doesn't want to invest anymore in continuing it...the big Z is not interested in stopping the war right now.

This is not hard to understand.... His interests do not lie on the same vector as ours.

How are your orange felon's "feels" knowing that half the planet now realizes that he's nothing but Putin's errand boy?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You can certainly try to extrapolate…. and sound like a moron. The pep talk had Lindsey Graham in it dufus

And?

 

[Slade3200]

And?

And he isn’t a Dem… he’s a Trump loving kiss ass. Your theory is shit

 

[konradv]

It’s a stalemate right now. And that’s with all of our support. Putin looking for a way out is a good thing. You have to negotiate from there. But to think he’s just going to walk away to the previous borders is ******* stupid.

That’s why he needs to be made to realize leaving is the only long term solution.

 

[eagle1462010]

That’s why he needs to be made to realize leaving is the only long term solution.

Without manpower Ukraine will continue to lose ground. 50% of their Infrastructure is destroyed already.

 

[konradv]

Without manpower Ukraine will continue to lose ground. 50% of their Infrastructure is destroyed already.

I wonder where MAGA gets these up-to-date figures on Ukraine’s military standing. Apparently the Ruzzian propaganda pipeline is still in full swing, despite the outing of Tim Pool et al.

 

[eagle1462010]

I wonder where MAGA gets these up-to-date figures on Ukraine’s military standing. Apparently the Ruzzian propaganda pipeline is still in full swing, despite the outing of Tim Pool et al.

I look at many sources, but hardly trust any.

Maps show Ukraines August gains are now about gone and they are losing ground.

 

[konradv]

I look at many sources, but hardly trust any.

Maps show Ukraines August gains are now about gone and they are losing ground.

Time to double down, not give up.

 

[eagle1462010]

Time to double down, not give up.

We are already 36 Trillion in debt. That is what takes us down. Same as the USSR.

Perhaps 1 day, given the globalist assholes seem to want WWIII, we will finally go head to head.

 

[eagle1462010]

• • Revelation 13
    In a vision, a beast with the feet of a bear and the mouth of a lion receives power from a dragon. This beast is the Antichrist, a powerful ruler who dominates the Roman Empire and sets himself up as a god.

 

[JoeB131]

It’s a stalemate right now. And that’s with all of our support. Putin looking for a way out is a good thing. You have to negotiate from there. But to think he’s just going to walk away to the previous borders is ******* stupid.

Unless he doesn't have a choice. If he wants to be welcomed back into polite society, he needs to return to the 2014 borders.

We don't reward aggression.

Or at least we didn't until Neville Trump came along.

 

[konradv]

We are already 36 Trillion in debt. That is what takes us down. Same as the USSR.

Perhaps 1 day, given the globalist assholes seem to want WWIII, we will finally go head to head.

We’re not sending them money; we’re sending them material that’s already been produced and will eventually be destroyed, sold or mothballed.

 

[eagle1462010]

We’re not sending them money; we’re sending them material that’s already been produced and will eventually be destroyed, sold or mothballed.

It all costs money.