If the service is good at a sit down restaurant, do you tip the waitress?

[Unkotare]

..... if you want to make real money in the field of Education....

No one enters the field of education to become rich, unless they are some stupid whore like you.

 

[Ordinary Guy]

I do because it is customary, however in Europe the wait staff is paid regular wages and the tips are not expected, that is the way it should be here. Many of our restaurant owners do not pay their staff well and use the business to launder money

 

[Unkotare]

A degree in "leadership" makes a degree in "under water, one-legged, lesbian basket weaving" look respectable.

 

[Winston]

A degree in "leadership" makes a degree in "under water, one-legged, lesbian basket weaving" look respectable.

Plato, Sun Tzu, Machiavelli--they ring a bell? Me, I like Xenophon, Cynegeticus, look it up. Best book on building a team ever written.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

The last time that I went to a sit-down place was this past Sunday at the place that I go to after church. $2.79 was 15%. I left $4.00. The people there are always good to me.

God bless you and them always!!!

Holly

 

[Unkotare]

Plato, Sun Tzu, Machiavelli--they ring a bell? Me, I like Xenophon, Cynegeticus, look it up. Best book on building a team ever written.

Too bad you never actually studied any of them.

 

[Leo123]

Slaves and whores performing for assholes who want to pretend they are potentates for two hours.

Go to a buffet then.

 

[Leo123]

I have dined at establishments that you literally COULD NOT enter, whore.

Hypccrite

 

[Winston]

In more that YOU can imagine in more parts of this earth, whore.

Again, your lack of respect for servers indicates you are full of shit.

So, it is Saturday night and the place is hopping. Two level restaurant, you ain't been a server till you have tackled stairs. I got "the bank" on the lower level, bar is on the second level. The bank is three six top tables that can be "banked" together for parties. I also have a six-top booth. They drop me a party of twenty in the bank, ten couples from Duke University's medical school, group of doctors and interns.

The couples don't sit together, they are scattered through the table. Everyone orders drinks, I write nothing down, I never did in seven years. I come back, take their dinner orders. They have realized I am not writing anything down so now it is a game to them. Almost every one of them has some kind of special request. No problem.

The dinner goes off without a hitch, most order additional drinks throughout the meal and of course, several of the ladies order desert. Then it comes time to drop the check but first I ask, is this together or separate checks? Separate checks they tell me. I responded that was fine, so who are the couples. They told me, you figure it out. I let out a little sigh and then told them, no problem, it will just take me a few minutes.

So, I go back to the server station and I visualize the entire meal. I figure out the couples by their interactions during the meal. I go back and present the check to the gentlemen and then note his date from wherever she was sitting at the table explaining how I came to that conclusion. She looked at you when she was ordering the entree, or she asked you about "no onions". You were the only two that had Tangueray and Tonics. After giving the check to the last gentleman the entire table jumped up, hooting and hollering, each coming to me with their credit cards, the couples finally together, shaking my hand, pounding me on the back and asking, "Who the hell are you? What are you doing here?" "That was the most amazing thing I have ever seen".

That was the level that I operated at and most people, I am sure not you, can remember a certain dinner, a certain server, that stands out to them above all the rest. Even myself, years ago, in one of those places you claim wouldn't let me in. A male, never missing a trick, never letting me touch the bottle of wine I ordered as he gracefully stopped by to top our glasses before they became empty. Giving us everything we needed, before we knew we needed it. But all the time being unobtrusive, impeccable timing. And sweeping away the plates because he knew that the way our fork was placed on the plate that we were done. For each stage, the app, the salads, the entree, and dessert. I am that server in thousands of people's mind to this very day. Older now, it doesn't happen as often as it did, but for years I had people come up to me and go, "It was you".

 

[Winston]

Too bad you never actually studied any of them.

Not only did I study them. In the case of Xenophon, I actually practiced Cynegeticus, was taught by some of the best in the world. When I was ten. If you can't run a team of dogs, you got no business running a team of employees.

 

[Flopper]

Tipping has been customary in America since after the Civil War.

Most Americans follow the culture in this country of tipping the waitress at the restaurant. But some don’t and I’ve actually seen some waitresses run out of the restaurant chasing after people who don’t tip. saying “ I have kids to feed. What are you doing to me?”

In principle, I don't believe it should be needed. However, it has become the custom and is a significant part of people's livelihood so I tip for service.

I strenuously object to tipping someone for handing me merchandise and ringing it up. That is not tipping for service. That is tipping people for doing their job.

Recently, I bought a couple of dozen donuts for a meeting. The guy at the counter rang it up and the credit card device had tips of 20%, 25%, or 30%, or custom tip. I sure as hell was not going pay the the guy $4 to $6 for handing me the donuts and taking my money. That is just plain wrong. I hit the custom tip button and selected no tip. I thought he was going to throw the donuts at me as I left. I called the manager and informed him that I would not be doing business with his establishment in the future.

 

[Flopper]

I have seen people give a gift to their mailman during Christmas time for example. Even things like cookies. I think that’s pretty cool.

We always give Christmas presents to people who provide services for us year round, such as barbers, beauticians, the maid, favorite waitress, and other services people. It is not just the right thing to do but it pays off in the long run. You become a good customer that they will do nice things for you.

 

[Flopper]

Tipping 10 bucks on a $14 order is very impressive. Well done.

When I was young, I worked parking cars at a fancy night club. We usually got a dollar or so tip. One night this guy drove in with a fancy little red sports car. He was there several hours and when he left he handed me a $50 bill. I told all the valet parkers and we watched for that little red car. Whenever it came in, we parked it right close to the door so he didn't have to wait. Everyone was really nice to the guy. He came every night or so but to my knowledge, he never tipped more than dollar or so. Yet every one always treated him like a king.

 

[Foxfyre]

Tipping has been customary in America since after the Civil War.

Most Americans follow the culture in this country of tipping the waitress at the restaurant. But some don’t and I’ve actually seen some waitresses run out of the restaurant chasing after people who don’t tip. saying “ I have kids to feed. What are you doing to me?”

I recently helped my 96 year old Aunt move from her home where she had lived alone since her husband died in 2016. The assisted/living facility she moved into is 5-star with fine dining offered at every meal. The dining room staff however is salaried and they are not allowed to accept tips from either the residents or their guests. And ever since the COVID lockdowns they have had a terrible time finding people to work. Qualified fine dining waiters and waitresses make the large bulk of their income from tips and they would take a significant pay cut if they went to work on straight salary unless it was a really good one.

By the way, as I understand it the standard gratuity for competent service, not even exceptional service, these days is 20% which wasn't on the OP poll option.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

In principle, I don't believe it should be needed. However, it has become the custom and is a significant part of people's livelihood so I tip for service.

I strenuously object to tipping someone for handing me merchandise and ringing it up. That is not tipping for service. That is tipping people for doing their job.

Recently, I bought a couple of dozen donuts for a meeting. The guy at the counter rang it up and the credit card device had tips of 20%, 25%, or 30%, or custom tip. I sure as hell was not going pay the the guy $4 to $6 for handing me the donuts and taking my money. That is just plain wrong. I hit the custom tip button and selected no tip. I thought he was going to throw the donuts at me as I left. I called the manager and informed him that I would not be doing business with his establishment in the future.

Well, I agree that it is probably unnecessary for a place like Panera bread or Starbucks to have a tip option.

Im talking about the traditional things you know like tipping a taxi driver, a pizza delivery guy or a waitress. That’s totally in line with American culture. It’s been going on for years.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

So a thread on tipping turns racist as the OP and right wingers can’t help themselves? I swear you guys are the worst humans we’ve had on the planet.

Can’t help yourself

I’m a proud Democrat. But you types of people constantly lie about other peoples positions. your No know different than the monstrous mayor of Chicago. Or the squad who are a disgrace to the history of Africa.



you think it’s racist to call out Black people who don’t tip. It’s insane. The types of ideology that your types of people engage. It’s terrible for the country. Brought nothing but poverty to working class people.

Your idea of racism is when somebody calls out a black criminal. But if somebody calls out a white criminal, it’s not racist. Man you’ve completely lost your mind.

Get back to us when somebody says that they won’t hire a black person for a job or they don’t want their daughter to go out with a black person.

 

[Unkotare]

Go to a buffet then.

No.

 

[Unkotare]

Hypccrite

How so?

 

[Flopper]

I recently helped my 96 year old Aunt move from her home where she had lived alone since her husband died in 2016. The assisted/living facility she moved into is 5-star with fine dining offered at every meal. The dining room staff however is salaried and they are not allowed to accept tips from either the residents or their guests. And ever since the COVID lockdowns they have had a terrible time finding people to work. Qualified fine dining waiters and waitresses make the large bulk of their income from tips and they would take a significant pay cut if they went to work on straight salary unless it was a really good one.

By the way, as I understand it the standard gratuity for competent service, not even exceptional service, these days is 20% which wasn't on the OP poll option.

I have always wondered where do these standards for gratuity come from. I remember when it was 10%, then 15%, now 20%. I see these little video pads they run your credit card that you can choose 20%, 25%, or 30% as a tip. Down at the bottom of the screen, there's little button that says custom tip, so you can leave a bigger tip. On that screen at the bottom is little button that says NO TIP. I typically use the NO Tip button when the only service being performed is taking my money and handing me merchandise.

While it is true servers depend on tips to get a livable income, when we tip we make it possible for employers to avoid paying a living wage.

 

[Foxfyre]

I have always wondered where do these standards for gratuity come from. I remember when it was 10%, then 15%, now 20%. I see these little video pads they run your credit card that you can choose 20%, 25%, or 30% as a tip. Down at the bottom of the screen, there's little button that says custom tip, so you can leave a bigger tip. On that screen at the bottom is little button that says NO TIP. I typically use the NO Tip button when the only service being performed is taking my money and handing me merchandise.

While it is true servers depend on tips to get a livable income, when we tip we make it possible for employers to avoid paying a living wage.

The restaurant has to pay minimum wage if the server does not make enough in tips. Only the worst waiters will not make significantly more than minimum wage via tips though.

By allowing the servers to work for tips, i.e. work for merit reward, wages can be kept low which keeps the cost of the food seemingly more affordable for more patrons who then leave more nice tips for the servers. It may seem a bit strange to do it that way but all the people in the industry, including the servers, want it that way.

The 20% was rather artificially pushed in order for restaurants to attract and keep great servers. I've been told by people in the industry that we can expect that 20% norm to increase to 25% in our foreseeable future.