Zone1 If secular progressives think Jesus isn't real, why do they hate him?

[JoeB131]

That's a problem how?

If Jesus were God, everyone would believe in him.

 

[Crepitus]

We don't.

 

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If Jesus were God, everyone would believe in him.

That's some stellar logic.

 

[JoeB131]

That's some stellar logic.

It's the only logic there is.

The majority of humans believe in something else and they always have.

 

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It's the only logic there is.

The majority of humans believe in something else and they always have.

That you can't see the flaw in your logic is on you, not me.

 

[BreezeWood]

OUt of 8 billion humans, only 2 billion believe in Jesus.

That's a problem how?

because, they do no believe in jesus who taught liberation theology, self determination - they believe in the forgeries and fallacies of the crucifiers who wrote the 4th century christian bible and have either become mentally ill or have that issue to begin with.

 

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because, they do no believe in jesus who taught liberation theology, self determination - they believe in the forgeries and fallacies of the crucifiers who wrote the 4th century christian bible and have either become mentally ill or have that issue to begin with.

That's some idiotic logic you have there. But that's exactly what I would expect from a religious nutjob such as yourself.

 

[BreezeWood]

That's some idiotic logic you have there. But that's exactly what I would expect from a religious nutjob such as yourself.

that of a crucifier ...

they are liars who wrote all three desert bibles the same as moses who claimed commandments from the heaves that never existed or were ever seen by anyone than moses who makes their claim ... similarly that of the abrahamic hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid jesus repudiated in the 1st century.

same as the christian above who lies for their own purposes using jesus their victim to deceivingly persuade the unsuspecting of their false convictions than those made by the heavens.

 

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that of a crucifier ...

they are liars who wrote all three desert bibles the same as moses who claimed commandments from the heaves that never existed or were ever seen by anyone than moses who makes their claim ... similarly that of the abrahamic hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid jesus repudiated in the 1st century.

same as the christian above who lies for their own purposes using jesus their victim to deceivingly persuade the unsuspecting of their false convictions than those made by the heavens.

Thank you for proving my point, religious nutjob.

 

[BreezeWood]

Thank you for proving my point, religious nutjob.

same as the christian above who lies for their own purposes using jesus their victim to deceivingly persuade the unsuspecting of their false convictions than those made by the heavens.

- is there anything lower than a texas desert dweller ...

 

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- is there anything lower than a texas desert dweller ...

Yes, false righteous indignant religious nutjobs.

 

[BreezeWood]

- is there anything lower than a texas desert dweller ...

Yes, false righteous indignant religious nutjobs.

who speak of themselves ---

in denial when what they are is an inescapable truth - crucifiers from their very beginning.

 

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who speak of themselves ---

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in denial when what they are is an inescapable truth - crucifiers from their very beginning.

Rant on, nutjob.

 

[BreezeWood]

Rant on, nutjob.

- crucifier from their very beginning.

just be yourself ...

a texas christian ....

 

[Z99]

The spiritual is involved. If God isn't in you, others fill the void. Scripture says SATAN is the god of this world until Jesus returns and dethrones him

1 John 5:19
English Standard Version
19 We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

 

[Z99]

...the bible, it promotes incest in the story of Lot and his daughters.

The two daughters had just fled Soddom with their father and thought that everybody in the world except them were dead. They gave their father wine because they felt that he wouldn't agree to procreate with them otherwise and the scriptures say that he didn't know that he was having sex with his daughters.

Genesis 19:34-38


31 And the firstborn said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is not a man on earth to come in to us after the manner of all the earth. 32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve offspring from our father.” 33 So they made their father drink wine that night. And the firstborn went in and lay with her father. He did not know when she lay down or when she arose.

34 The next day, the firstborn said to the younger, “Behold, I lay last night with my father. Let us make him drink wine tonight also. Then you go in and lie with him, that we may preserve offspring from our father.” 35 So they made their father drink wine that night also. And the younger arose and lay with him, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose. 36 Thus both the daughters of Lot became pregnant by their father. 37 The firstborn bore a son and called his name Moab.2 nHe is the father of the Moabites to this day. 38 The younger also bore a son and called his name Ben-ammi.3 oHe is the father of the Ammonites to this day.

 

[Z99]

He got drunk, had sex with his daughters then later prostituted them out.

That's not biblically accurate, but we can get past that. Here is a good explanation of why Lott offered his virgin daughters to the mob of men.

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Genesis 19:8-10 meaning​

Lot reminded the lustful mob that the two visitors were under his protection and offered his two virgin daughters to the men to appease them, and protect his guests. The crowd pressed Lot against the door trying to break inside. But the two visitors quickly grabbed Lot and shut the door.
Lot offers to appease the men's lust by handing over his two daughters who have not had relations with man (v 8) to the sexual predators. It is difficult for readers with a western mindset to conceive how someone the Bible calls righteous could make such an offer (2 Peter 2:7). Lot's decision in this chapter is never described as righteous. This was not his shining moment. In fact, he does not have any shining moments. He only escapes destruction by God's grace. There is no praise for Lot or any idea that we ought to admire Lot's actions. At best, he takes a stand against the mob and preaches against their wickedness, but even then he offers to trade his daughters to purchase safety.

Truly, it was by his faith in God that righteousness was attributed to him.

 

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just be yourself ...

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a texas christian ....

FWIW, most religious nutjobs are broken records.

 

[Ace Nova]

If Jesus were God, everyone would believe in him.

Most major religions/spiritual people of the world follow (or at least incorporate) a form of Jesus' primary teaching which is, "Love your Neighbor as Yourself"

- A form of the "Golden Rule".

It's the only logic there is.

The majority of humans believe in something else and they always have.

That could be - but if you are religious and practice in an organized religion - you would more likely be Christian vs any other organized religion.

Christianity is has the most amount of followers at 2.38 billion people (Approximately 31% of the population of the world) vs any other organized religion.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

If secular progressives think Jesus isn't real, why do they hate him?​

Most of them have a "Superiority" complex where they believe only THEY know what's best for you and everyone else.
They hold you in complete contempt and consider you an idiot regardless and themselves geniuses regardless.
THEY believe you are incapable of running your own life. Hence the love of huge, invasive iron fisted government.

With that in mind, how could they not hate Jesus, Elon Musk or Trump for that matter?