Zone1 If racism is the cause for poverty among blacks, why are 75% of blacks NOT poor?

[MizMolly]

Watch out. This is zone 1. You can't call people racists in zone 1. Because this is a right wing forum and to right wingers no matter how much evidence exists, they believe that racist/racism is overused.

And you call everything racist when it isnt

 

[Woodznutz]

Not when the evidence is documented about what has been and continues to be done.

For example:

Citygroup did a study focusing on U.S. GDP from 2000 until 2020. The study revealed huge losses in GDP due to continuing discrimination against blacks in business revenue, education, housing credit, and income. The study determined that since the year 2000, continuing discriminatory practices in the four areas mentioned in the prior sentence resulted in a loss of 16 trillion dollars in GDP. The breakdown is as follows:

“Closing the Black racial wage gap 20 years ago might have provided an additional $2.7 trillion in income available for consumption and investment.

Improving access to housing credit might have added an additional 770,000 Black homeowners over the last 20 years, with combined sales and expenditures adding another $218 billion to GDP over that time.

Facilitating increased access to higher education (college, graduate, and vocational schools) for Black students might have bolstered lifetime incomes that in aggregate sums to $90 to $113 billion

Providing fair and equitable lending to Black entrepreneurs might have resulted in the creation of an additional $13 trillion in business revenue over the last 20 years. This could have been used for investments in labor, technology, capital equipment, and structures and 6.1 million jobs might have been created per year.”

Dana M Peterson, Catherine L Mann, Closing the Racial Inequality Gaps, The Economic Cost of Black Inequality in the U.S., pg. 4, Closing the Racial Inequality Gaps - CitiGPS

Here are more studies.

Laura Sullivan, Tatjana Meschede, Lars Dietrich, & Thomas Shapiro, Amy Traub, Catherine Ruetschlin, Tamara Draut, The Racial Wealth Gap, Why Policy Matters, pg.4 https://www.demos.org/sites/ default/files/publications/RacialWealthGap_2.pdf

Ani Turner, The Business Case for Racial Equity, https://altarum.org/sites/default/f..._Business-Case-Racial-Equity_National-Report_ 2018.pdf

Brentin Mock, “White Americans’ Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable,” CITILAB, September 3, 2019, CityLab - Bloomberg

Your opinion is not supported by anyone with good sense.

All of the failures mentioned are a result of blacks not building capital through savings and investments. The denied "access" mentioned is to white capital and the institutions white capital has built, while blacks continue to spend their money on conspicuous consumption products offered mostly by white owned companies. You can't have your cake and eat someone else's.

 

[Woodznutz]

You are not taking any closer look because you have not bothered to do the homework about it.

It's one of my favorite topics.

 

[Woodznutz]

The main cultural problem we have in America is white racism.

Or maybe it's trying to make an Afro-centric culture succeed in an Anglo-American society.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Watch out. This is zone 1. You can't call people racists in zone 1. Because this is a right wing forum and to right wingers no matter how much evidence exists, they believe that racist/racism is overused.

This forum was designated as Zone 1 to protect YOU. You were always complaining that everyone was ganging up on you.

 

[Woodznutz]

But why, oh why, oh why, which you are not capable of grasping.

nm

 

[Markle]

Aren't Whites also getting a free ride off the tax payer money?


What race gets the most SNAP benefits?


White

SNAP recipients represent different races and/or ethnicities. White: about 37 percent; African American: 26 percent; Hispanic: 16 percent; Asian: 3 percent; and Native American: about 2 percent.

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What excuses do the 37% of Whites have to ask and accept any benefits?

If you are an honest person seeking real answers, you will know that the percentages you list above should roughly equal these percentages for the racial demographics of our country.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/RHI625221#RHI625221

But, you and several other folks here can't face facts, can you?

 

[Lisa558]

The point was that White, and many other ethnicities, are also dependent on help from the Government. That is what good governments do. Take care of those who are in need. It happens in just about every country. But some in the US do not want to see some people get help, of any kind.
That is very much understood.

The points are:

1) that whites are less likely to be on welfare than blacks, and

2) that whites are not blaming racism for their poor choices that lead to dependence on welfare.

There is nothing “helpful” about handing out ”help” to people who won’t do anything to help themselves. No able-bodied adult who refuses to get a job, and isn’t caring for pre-school children, should get nothing.

Also, let’s not forget that the “help” comes from other people. In my liberal county, it was just announced that due to the increasing costs of social support programs (which includes a ridiculous rent forgiveness extension), they are considering a new local income tax on middle-class people - people struggling to pay their own bills.

 

[Markle]

This forum was designated as Zone 1 to protect YOU. You were always complaining that everyone was ganging up on you.

He must feel pretty special having his own private forum.

 

[Markle]

Lie all you like about the government or the numbers coming from the southern border, who are not all Mexicans.

Just make sure that you do not ask for your SS or Medicare/Medicaid after a certain age.

Specifically, why should I not receive benefits? I paid hundreds of thousands of dollars into those accounts.

As you know, IF all those funds had not been loaned to the federal government at obscenely low-interest rates, and had been invested in conservative mutual fund-like accounts, benefits to recipients would be two to three times higher than what we have today. How would that be a bad thing?

 

[Markle]

In 2017, Demos published a study titled, “The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap.” On page ten, this statement is written: “The median white single parent has 2.2 times more wealth than the median black two-parent household and 1.9 times more wealth than the median Latino two-parent household.”

Your opinion of things shows an inability to deal with reality.

Your screaming only emphasizes your desperation and recognization that you have lost any semblance of credibility.

As to your source, it doesn't appear that the group, or whatever "Demos" is, has nothing whatsoever to do with any study of race.

Here is who they say they are. Little wonder you refused to include any links.

Demos

Here are demonstrations of some things studied in our laboratory.
These demonstrations are meant to enhance your appreciation of human perception and cognition. You'll discover for yourself just how challenging perceptual and cognitive tasks can be, and how fragile visual memory --including memory of what you have just seen-- can be. to view some of the demonstrations, your computer must have Adobe's Flash player installed. This player is a free download.
Demonstrations:

• Fish Police!!! A video game that tests people's ability to ignore what should be ignored.
• Visual memory --test your ability to recognize things that you've only just seen.
• We are studying how people learn to associate unfamiliar names and faces. View the faces and hear the names.
• Test your ability to imitate series of simple hand gestures.
• Visuomotor imitation --test your ability to reproduce abstract movement patterns you've just seen.
• Sample results from a study of visuomotor imitation. See how well other people did.
• Imitate Masha's gestures --test your ability to reproduce complex gestures made by a realistic animated human.

For more information on the lab's research or to send comments about the demonstrations, e-mail the Lab Director.

https://people.brandeis.edu/~sekuler/DemosIntro.html

 

[Markle]

Not surprising.

When verifiable facts are posted folks like my good friends IM2, Sixties Fan, and others can't stand the heat they abandon that thread for ones where their lies aren't contested.

Come on folks, when do you grow up and start working toward real solutions?