If Only Democrats Would Stop Lying.......or Being Clueless

[danielpalos]

Nothing but Continuing upward Trends, right wingers. How typical of the right wing trying to take credit for what they could not do.
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The right wing (as you call it) has taken credit for what IT DID DO - as shown in the 3rd graph in the OP. Can you read graphs ?

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I trust the DOW more than right wing fake news.

 

[Crepitus]

Man, is it ever hard to watch Democrats on TV talk shows. Just now Pete Buttigieg was on Meet the Press (aka Meet the Trump Bashers), and I can't think of a single thing he said that was true. Like other Democrats, when talking about the economy, he completely ignores the great accomplishments of the Trump administration for 3 years, 2017-2019, and only talks about the downturn, which was totally caused by the coronavirus.

Actually, even in spite of the coronavirus, Mayor Pete may not have a talking point with 2020's economy either, since the stock market just recorded record highs this month. Hard to imagine the economy being bad, when the stock market is at its best ever.

Going back to last night, there was a special show on my local NBC affiliate, last night about race relations. One of the shows hosts asked the panel they had there (composed entirely of liberals), what "we who have white privilege, can do" Well, it doesn't help race relations to perpetuate a myth that there is a such thing as "white privilege", when in fact, whites have been the victims of the largest racial discrimination in America (Affirmative Action), for 56 years. All that does is intensify bad race relations by making blacks (beneficiaries) of discrimination, believe that they are victims of it, which is ludicrous.

I would not hestitate to guess that, overall, blacks, all across America, really DO believe that they are victims of racial discrimination, when exactly the opposite of that is true. And all of this distortion and misconception, is caused by and perpetuated by, this false narrative of those on the left, who keep pushing it, and speaking it as if it were the gospel truth.

It would have helped if there would have been at least one conservative on this rigged panel, who would have had the guts to tell it like it is - after I called the station, one person I talked to said they couldn't find any conservative to come on the show. HA HA HA. I can think of hundreds who would have gladly been there, including me.

Getting back to this morning's Meet the Press show, leftist mouthpiece Chuck Todd claimed to refute the common (and truthful) conservative line that Trump rescued America from an Obama economy that was faltering. He claimed to have done a "fact check". His so-called "fact-check" was nothing more than a set of numbers arranged in such a way as to make it appear that there was no change in the economies of Obama and Trump.

Todd looked at the 4 years of Obama's 2nd term, as depicted by the Obama-friendly BEA and showed a GDP growth % about the same (2.2%) as Trump's first term up until December 2019. What Todd doesn't mention is that the BEA that he uses as a source, is a laughingstock, which has been cooking the books on these numbers regularly since Trump had a 4.2% GDP in his best month (which the BEA lowered to 3.3%). Since then, Trump's numbers have been posted, only to be shown lower than they first were, while Obama's numbers kept getting raised. Did they really think nobody was noticing ?

So here's what Todd wants us to look at (keeping in mind that these numbers are already culitvated/elevated for Obama) >>

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And HERE is what conservatives refer to regarding Obama's faltering economy (his last 2 years) which, of course Todd omitted from his "fact check" >>

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And now for the REAL fact check, HERE is the V shape of Obama's recession, and Trump's rescue, just as conservatives rightly claim, and as Chuck Todd tried to cover up and distract us away from >>>

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You are so aptly named it's amazing.

Now stop projecting your troubles on to us.

You do realize "protectionist" is different from "projectionist"....dumbass.

My bad, I just assumed he was bad at spelling as well as dumber than two stacked rocks.

 

[berg80]

What's this about lying?

Twitter flags ‘misleading’ tweet in which Trump suggested voters could contract coronavirus from ballot drop boxes

"Twitter on Sunday flagged a tweet in which President Trump suggested voters could contract the coronavirus by placing their mail-in ballots in drop boxes, calling his message misleading and in violation of the platform’s rules.
“We placed a public interest notice on this Tweet for violating our Civic Integrity Policy for making misleading health claims that could potentially dissuade people from participation in voting,” the company said in a tweet Sunday afternoon."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/08/23/trump-biden-live-updates/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_election-luf%3Aprime-time%2Fpromo

 

[protectionist]

Someone doesn’t know what a recession is. Positive economic growth is not a recession.

Negative economic growth IS, generally identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters (as shown in graphs in the OP).

 

[protectionist]

So what did Mayor Pete lie about in that interview, can you post one of the specific lies?

Ignoring Trumps great accomplishments is not lying by the way.

The answer is in the OP.

 

[protectionist]

This V shaped graph, not even sure where they got that. That’s not the official BEA numbers. It’s not super far off, but the actual data doesn’t show a nice need inflection.

Why are you not sure ?....when the source is clearly provided, and written right underneath all 3 graphs. Yes, it IS the official BEA numbers, what makes you think it isn't ? Because the V isn't what you want to see ?

As the Rolling Stones used to say, You Can't Always Get What You Want.

 

[protectionist]

Trump Is Lying More Than Ever: Just Look At The Data

As of early April, Trump has told 23.3 lies per day in 2020, a 0.5-lie increase since 2019. What’s more, Trump has averaged 23.8 lies per day since the first case of COVID-19 was reported in the US — another 0.5-lie increase. Even during a pandemic, when the public needs to trust and rely on him the most, deception remains a core part of the president’s playbook.

Democrats are always ludicrously claiming that Trump lies. Whenever I have challenged them to produced ONE LIE, they show up with stuff that are NOT lies.
I do not know of ANY lie ever told by Trump, and I doubt that you do either.

 

[protectionist]

Right wingers are clueless, and Causeless.

That's what YOU are > clueless, information -deprived victims of liberal OMISSION media, as I have many times proven in my QUIZ threads, and causeless, other than the cause of them grabbing POWER, by any means necessary.

 

[protectionist]

What's this about lying?

Twitter flags ‘misleading’ tweet in which Trump suggested voters could contract coronavirus from ballot drop boxes

"Twitter on Sunday flagged a tweet in which President Trump suggested voters could contract the coronavirus by placing their mail-in ballots in drop boxes, calling his message misleading and in violation of the platform’s rules.
“We placed a public interest notice on this Tweet for violating our Civic Integrity Policy for making misleading health claims that could potentially dissuade people from participation in voting,” the company said in a tweet Sunday afternoon."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/08/23/trump-biden-live-updates/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_election-luf%3Aprime-time%2Fpromo

What's "misleading" about it ?

 

[protectionist]

I trust the DOW more than right wing fake news.

So you call the BEA reports fake news ? HA HA. They are Obama-leftist, and have routinely been cooked to favor him.

 

[Slade3200]

So what did Mayor Pete lie about in that interview, can you post one of the specific lies?

Ignoring Trumps great accomplishments is not lying by the way.

The answer is in the OP.

No its not

 

[protectionist]

No its not

Yes it is,

 

[CowboyTed]

Man, is it ever hard to watch Democrats on TV talk shows. Just now Pete Buttigieg was on Meet the Press (aka Meet the Trump Bashers), and I can't think of a single thing he said that was true. Like other Democrats, when talking about the economy, he completely ignores the great accomplishments of the Trump administration for 3 years, 2017-2019, and only talks about the downturn, which was totally caused by the coronavirus.

Actually, even in spite of the coronavirus, Mayor Pete may not have a talking point with 2020's economy either, since the stock market just recorded record highs this month. Hard to imagine the economy being bad, when the stock market is at its best ever.

Going back to last night, there was a special show on my local NBC affiliate, last night about race relations. One of the shows hosts asked the panel they had there (composed entirely of liberals), what "we who have white privilege, can do" Well, it doesn't help race relations to perpetuate a myth that there is a such thing as "white privilege", when in fact, whites have been the victims of the largest racial discrimination in America (Affirmative Action), for 56 years. All that does is intensify bad race relations by making blacks (beneficiaries) of discrimination, believe that they are victims of it, which is ludicrous.

I would not hestitate to guess that, overall, blacks, all across America, really DO believe that they are victims of racial discrimination, when exactly the opposite of that is true. And all of this distortion and misconception, is caused by and perpetuated by, this false narrative of those on the left, who keep pushing it, and speaking it as if it were the gospel truth.

It would have helped if there would have been at least one conservative on this rigged panel, who would have had the guts to tell it like it is - after I called the station, one person I talked to said they couldn't find any conservative to come on the show. HA HA HA. I can think of hundreds who would have gladly been there, including me.

Getting back to this morning's Meet the Press show, leftist mouthpiece Chuck Todd claimed to refute the common (and truthful) conservative line that Trump rescued America from an Obama economy that was faltering. He claimed to have done a "fact check". His so-called "fact-check" was nothing more than a set of numbers arranged in such a way as to make it appear that there was no change in the economies of Obama and Trump.

Todd looked at the 4 years of Obama's 2nd term, as depicted by the Obama-friendly BEA and showed a GDP growth % about the same (2.2%) as Trump's first term up until December 2019. What Todd doesn't mention is that the BEA that he uses as a source, is a laughingstock, which has been cooking the books on these numbers regularly since Trump had a 4.2% GDP in his best month (which the BEA lowered to 3.3%). Since then, Trump's numbers have been posted, only to be shown lower than they first were, while Obama's numbers kept getting raised. Did they really think nobody was noticing ?

So here's what Todd wants us to look at (keeping in mind that these numbers are already culitvated/elevated for Obama) >>

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And HERE is what conservatives refer to regarding Obama's faltering economy (his last 2 years) which, of course Todd omitted from his "fact check" >>

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And now for the REAL fact check, HERE is the V shape of Obama's recession, and Trump's rescue, just as conservatives rightly claim, and as Chuck Todd tried to cover up and distract us away from >>>

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Trump increased borrowing by 2%... So by just borrowing the economy has to increase by 2%....

I will also point out that endless increasing the GDP leads to over stimulating the economy... This is Macroeconomics 101...

Obama was slowing down the economy to decrease borrowing so when a recession hits he or successor can use that leverage to borrow and pump the economy quicker out of recession...

Trump had an inflated economy built on increased borrowing much like GW Bush.

Simple question was if the economy was so good why did Trump need to borrow 1 trillion a year?

And before you say Obama, he inherited an economy which was in a recession and very close to a depression from the financial crisis.

 

[g5000]

Trump Is Lying More Than Ever: Just Look At The Data

As of early April, Trump has told 23.3 lies per day in 2020, a 0.5-lie increase since 2019. What’s more, Trump has averaged 23.8 lies per day since the first case of COVID-19 was reported in the US — another 0.5-lie increase. Even during a pandemic, when the public needs to trust and rely on him the most, deception remains a core part of the president’s playbook.

Democrats are always ludicrously claiming that Trump lies. Whenever I have challenged them to produced ONE LIE, they show up with stuff that are NOT lies.
I do not know of ANY lie ever told by Trump, and I doubt that you do either.

Wow. Trump never lies, eh? Holy shit, you are about as brain dead as it gets!

Every time some profoundly stupid person says Trump never lies and then asks for ONE LIE, I always give them two.

Trump says he didn't know about $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels

“You’ll have to ask Michael Cohen,“ Trump said when pressed about his lawyer‘s payment.

www.politico.com

“I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to go play golf. Bleev me...Bleev me...Bleev me, folks." - Donald Trump, August 8, 2016

 

[g5000]

I bet protectionist will still claim Trump never lies. That's a job requirement to be a Trump piss drinker.

 

[g5000]

Another Trump lie:

 

[Shawnee_b]

If only democrats stopped lying?

If only it rained gold bars from Heaven?

Neither is going to happen but I'd bet on the gold bars.

 

[g5000]

Another Trump lie:

“We have a mortality rate. Think of this. That's tenfold better than any other. What we're doing is incredible. If you look you've heard the numbers tenfold. We have fewer people dying and our people have done an incredible job.”

 

[g5000]

Another Trump lie:

"The U.S. has the loosest immigration laws in the world — thanks to Democrats."

 

[g5000]

I could literally do this all day.

Now watch. Protectionist will continue to lie and say Trump never lies.