If more guns makes a country safer

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You still don't get it, do you. If you are following the law, then I support you. If you aren't then duck and cover.

No, I don't get it and I don't have a clue where you're coming from. What makes you think I have not followed the law? I have no problem with the law or those who enforce it. You seem to, though.

Why, just because you say so? Damn, the world according to Galt. We should make a move about that.

So how would I have had a valid concealed carry permit for the last 8 years and carried every day, if I had not followed the law?

Do you even carry bro?

As a group those with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

If not, THE most law abiding in the country.

Report: Concealed Carry Permit Holders Are The Most Law-Abiding People In The Country

It's a responsibility.

 

[Markle]

What are you so afraid of that you need guns for protection?

I live on the border and I don't need guns for protection. According to the GOP I am living in the middle of the Meemaw raper/killers flooding across the border in what must be one of the most dangerous places in the world. And still, I've never needed a gun.

I guess I'm braver than you are. Gun nutters are the biggest snowflakes on the planet. Afraid of every damn thing and person in the world. Either that, or you have teeny tiny mushroom shaped peckers.

An ignorant post.

The Second Amendment does not say IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED A GUN. NO one cares if you think you need a gun or not.

You conclude by proving even you know your post is foolish by devolving into a childish personal attack. Do you think that makes you a big man?

 

[NotYourBody]

I had guns before I ever heard of the NRA or voted for any party. The safest place in the world right now is under my roof.

What are you so afraid of that you need guns for protection?

I live on the border and I don't need guns for protection. According to the GOP I am living in the middle of the Meemaw raper/killers flooding across the border in what must be one of the most dangerous places in the world. And still, I've never needed a gun.

I guess I'm braver than you are. Gun nutters are the biggest snowflakes on the planet. Afraid of every damn thing and person in the world. Either that, or you have teeny tiny mushroom shaped peckers.

Nobody needs a gun........until they really need a gun one day or night.

So far, I've never needed one. I don't make a habit of carrying things I don't need.

 

[NotYourBody]

I was a child when the violence occurred and far too young to handle a gun.

Never too young ...

... to learn firearm safety.

Actually, it is possible to be too young to handle a gun. Some hands are too small to hold a gun and pull the trigger.

And that person who is supposed to teach the child how to use a gun? It doesn't work well when the proposed teacher is also the assaulter.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I had guns before I ever heard of the NRA or voted for any party. The safest place in the world right now is under my roof.

What are you so afraid of that you need guns for protection?

I live on the border and I don't need guns for protection. According to the GOP I am living in the middle of the Meemaw raper/killers flooding across the border in what must be one of the most dangerous places in the world. And still, I've never needed a gun.

I guess I'm braver than you are. Gun nutters are the biggest snowflakes on the planet. Afraid of every damn thing and person in the world. Either that, or you have teeny tiny mushroom shaped peckers.

Nobody needs a gun........until they really need a gun one day or night.

So far, I've never needed one. I don't make a habit of carrying things I don't need.

Well I have a perfect driving record in and out of my truck. But I still have insurance for my car.

Correct, so far you haven't needed a gun, and neither have I. But if the time comes when we both need one, I'll have mine with me.

 

[JGalt]

What are you so afraid of that you need guns for protection?

I live on the border and I don't need guns for protection. According to the GOP I am living in the middle of the Meemaw raper/killers flooding across the border in what must be one of the most dangerous places in the world. And still, I've never needed a gun.

I guess I'm braver than you are. Gun nutters are the biggest snowflakes on the planet. Afraid of every damn thing and person in the world. Either that, or you have teeny tiny mushroom shaped peckers.

An ignorant post.

The Second Amendment does not say IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED A GUN. NO one cares if you think you need a gun or not.

You conclude by proving even you know your post is foolish by devolving into a childish personal attack. Do you think that makes you a big man?

NotYourBody is a "she".

Judging by her username, she probably thinks murdering unborn children is ok, but protecting your family with guns is not.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You conclude by proving even you know your post is foolish by devolving into a childish personal attack. Do you think that makes you a big man?

No, that's not the way the game is played.

You see, if somebody says you have a small package because you want to carry a gun, you're reaction is supposed to be "Please, don't tell people that! I swear, I'll get rid of my gun, I swear, but please don't tell people I have a small package!"

Of course it never works out that way except in their minds. You're around my age, so you remember when they called it Reverse Psychology. I don't know what the new term for that strategy is today, but the left feel they are pulling it off without notice.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But that won’t happen. You’ll see all the evidence. And if he’s removed republicans will have gone along.

8 Times trump put pressure on taylor to get Ukraine to announce they are looking into Biden.

Trump is guilty af. So nothing unjust if he’s removed. Sorry

Those hearings are closed door, secret. Republicans have been shut out of the meetings so who are the sources of what you have heard?

In fact recently, they are now banning Republicans from seeing any transcripts of their meetings. The Republicans went on air telling the public they have zilch, and that's what they have. So they couldn't come out making up lies about those they are interviewing. Now they feel they can, and the sheep will be the last ones to know.

 

[NotYourBody]

What are you so afraid of that you need guns for protection?

I live on the border and I don't need guns for protection. According to the GOP I am living in the middle of the Meemaw raper/killers flooding across the border in what must be one of the most dangerous places in the world. And still, I've never needed a gun.

I guess I'm braver than you are. Gun nutters are the biggest snowflakes on the planet. Afraid of every damn thing and person in the world. Either that, or you have teeny tiny mushroom shaped peckers.

An ignorant post.

The Second Amendment does not say IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED A GUN. NO one cares if you think you need a gun or not.

You conclude by proving even you know your post is foolish by devolving into a childish personal attack. Do you think that makes you a big man?

I'm not a man. I'm a woman. See the female symbol next to my name? And I'm still braver than you.

People load up with guns because they are AFRAID. Period. Afraid they'll be randomly attacked. Afraid someone want's to steal all their shit. It's some real paranoia.

If they are not AFRAID, they are using the gun as the most obvious phallic symbol in the world. They have to be compensating for something.

 

[NotYourBody]

You conclude by proving even you know your post is foolish by devolving into a childish personal attack. Do you think that makes you a big man?

No, that's not the way the game is played.

You see, if somebody says you have a small package because you want to carry a gun, you're reaction is supposed to be "Please, don't tell people that! I swear, I'll get rid of my gun, I swear, but please don't tell people I have a small package!"

Of course it never works out that way except in their minds. You're around my age, so you remember when they called it Reverse Psychology. I don't know what the new term for that strategy is today, but the left feel they are pulling it off without notice.

OR, men who are obsessed with guns really do have abnormally small penises.

 

[NotYourBody]

Funny, around here, the biggest threat is from the right wingers who are armed. About 50 feet away is a ultra right winger who is armed that gets my vote for the most unstable. He's a Rumpster all the way through. If Rump were to lose the election or were to be convicted for removal by the Senate and call for an armed response, he would be one of the first to respond. And guess what, I would be his first target. That means that he wouldn't fare too well in the exchange. Rumps Army would fall pretty quickly since they would be mostly be made up of fruitcakes that would wage direct war on anyone that they deem as Liberals. And that means anyone not fruitcakes like them. That means that many Conservatives will be targeted as well. Your idea that you will need to get rid of all the Liberal's guns means that anyone not a Rumpster needs to be disarmed. Shades of Tyranny on that one. And that hasn't worked out real well in the past for other groups of people either. So keep spewing your crap. But do us all a favor and don't follow through with it.

What a dreamer you are. First off, Trump would never lead any of his supporters into a civil war. Secondly, most people on the right are law abiding people, and we take out our anger at the ballot box, not in the street and on police officers.

But you do bring up a good point, and that is the left is pushing us to the brink of war. When these anti-Americans do anything possible to remove a duely elected President, that means the commies have taken over, and my vote no longer counts. Because if they can do that to one Republican, they'll be able to do it to any Republican, and that is a call out for war.

This is why I've always been behind having two countries instead of one. Make a division line from north to south. On one side will be the Democrats, and on the other the Republicans. We will have a national vote to decide who gets which side.

If we don't do this soon, eventually the Democrats will do something to spark a civil war.

One real problem with what you are saying. The only side that even brings up a civil war is yours. And yours talks about stockpiling for WHEN it happens. Are you saying that if the Dems win heavily at the ballot box that you will see that as a reason to have a civil war? If that is the case, it's not the Dems that are the danger of causing a Civil War. It's your bunch.

And you need to quite giving Rump so many free rides. He's a friggin embarrassment. He goes from one embarrassment to another almost weekly. And the only reason he does this is because you won't call him on any of his BS. He's always been a spoiled little boy. Spoiled little boys will always push the envelope until they find the limits. So far, you haven't shown him the limits. So he just gets worse and worse. Now he's in serious trouble because the Dems have had enough and so have the Moderates. Your 33% isn't enough to pull him out of it this time. It's like a spoiled little brat that didn't get the spanking as a child finally getting in serious trouble with the authorities. Well, Congress is the Authorities this time. Now, in his own way (by demanding) he is begging you to cover for him once again. It's too late.

This is part of the commie revolution. The legislative branch does not have the power to control the executive branch. That's why we have separation of powers.

I never said if the commies win, we need to have a civil war. What I said is that when the commies remove a President unjustly, such as having secret clandestine inquiries, refusal to let the opponents even so much as see their transcript, and overturn an election, it is time for a civil war, because everything they do is unconstitutional.

The election is where citizens get to vote in or out a candidate for Prescient, not the legislative branch. This is particularly true when it's the opposing party that has been talking impeachment, and looking for a crime to match their punitive actions. That's not the way it works for real Americans.

But that won’t happen. You’ll see all the evidence. And if he’s removed republicans will have gone along.

8 Times trump put pressure on taylor to get Ukraine to announce they are looking into Biden.

Trump is guilty af. So nothing unjust if he’s removed. Sorry

That's the problem: we're not seeing any evidence because the Democrats are hiding the fact they have none. Now they announced a possible delay until after the holiday. Why? Because like the phony story by the Balls broad, they continue to find something.....anything they can get Trump on.

Every other evil scheme your side has tried failed miserably. When are you going to learn this is the trend?

So you are not reading ANY of the opening statements from the witnesses? Because that is all kinds of evidence.

 

[Harry Dresden]

America would be the safest country in the world When will Republicans learn the NRA is FOS ?

I know you're full of shit. Does that count?

And if you keep your BS up I'll get Coyote to ban you,,,,,

why coyote?...

 

[Markle]

Trump is stone cold busted.

Top U.S. Diplomat Unravels Story Of Trump's Ukraine Aid Holdup | HuffPost

The hearings are being held in secret. So what is the source of "information"?

 

[Markle]

background checks make us safer because they will stop some nuts from getting their hands on guns.

And we all know limiting magazines to 10 rounds slows you shooters down. If it doesn't then why cry about not being allowed to have 20 round mags?

Show me! IF more laws piled on top of other laws eliminated the underlying crime, why not pass more laws against bank robberies, child abuse, counterfeiting, and whatever?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

We’re interested in what makes us all safer. Background checks and maybe we don’t allow people to buy assault weapons and wmds

As you are well aware, you cannot demonstrate that any of these things makes anyone safer.

background checks make us safer because they will stop some nuts from getting their hands on guns.

And we all know limiting magazines to 10 rounds slows you shooters down. If it doesn't then why cry about not being allowed to have 20 round mags?

the Courts are pretty well going with 15 round capacity limits. That limit was set in 2013 in a Colorado Suit where it got changed from 10 to 15 to make it stick. as one federal judge called it, "the Heller Limit".

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It takes about one second to drop a magazine and pop in another one. How many lives do you suppose that would save?

If the Orlando Pulse shooting -- 300 people, one gunman - is any indication, the answer is exactly zero.

But then, their objective isn't to save lives, or make people safer.

Agreed. It's just one of many baby steps to make gun ownership or possession so difficult that most people will abort the use of firearms.

First it's 10 round magazines, then 5, then 3, then no sami-automatics at all. If they get to that point, the next is to make speed loaders for revolvers illegal. Then reduce the amount of rounds a barrel can have like they did with magazines.

They really believe we don't know what they're up to.

You are crying to the wind on that one. Federal Judges have already placed a 15 round max on the limits. States that have tried to go for 5 and 10 have had their law overturned and had to rewrite their laws to read 15. That doesn't mean that your state even needs to have a limit. They can have a 20 or a 30 or no limit either. It's up to the state. It only means the min must be 15.


But you keep crying and weeping. Hardly anyone is paying any attention anymore.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Funny, around here, the biggest threat is from the right wingers who are armed. About 50 feet away is a ultra right winger who is armed that gets my vote for the most unstable. He's a Rumpster all the way through. If Rump were to lose the election or were to be convicted for removal by the Senate and call for an armed response, he would be one of the first to respond. And guess what, I would be his first target. That means that he wouldn't fare too well in the exchange. Rumps Army would fall pretty quickly since they would be mostly be made up of fruitcakes that would wage direct war on anyone that they deem as Liberals. And that means anyone not fruitcakes like them. That means that many Conservatives will be targeted as well. Your idea that you will need to get rid of all the Liberal's guns means that anyone not a Rumpster needs to be disarmed. Shades of Tyranny on that one. And that hasn't worked out real well in the past for other groups of people either. So keep spewing your crap. But do us all a favor and don't follow through with it.

What a dreamer you are. First off, Trump would never lead any of his supporters into a civil war. Secondly, most people on the right are law abiding people, and we take out our anger at the ballot box, not in the street and on police officers.

But you do bring up a good point, and that is the left is pushing us to the brink of war. When these anti-Americans do anything possible to remove a duely elected President, that means the commies have taken over, and my vote no longer counts. Because if they can do that to one Republican, they'll be able to do it to any Republican, and that is a call out for war.

This is why I've always been behind having two countries instead of one. Make a division line from north to south. On one side will be the Democrats, and on the other the Republicans. We will have a national vote to decide who gets which side.

If we don't do this soon, eventually the Democrats will do something to spark a civil war.

One real problem with what you are saying. The only side that even brings up a civil war is yours. And yours talks about stockpiling for WHEN it happens. Are you saying that if the Dems win heavily at the ballot box that you will see that as a reason to have a civil war? If that is the case, it's not the Dems that are the danger of causing a Civil War. It's your bunch.

And you need to quite giving Rump so many free rides. He's a friggin embarrassment. He goes from one embarrassment to another almost weekly. And the only reason he does this is because you won't call him on any of his BS. He's always been a spoiled little boy. Spoiled little boys will always push the envelope until they find the limits. So far, you haven't shown him the limits. So he just gets worse and worse. Now he's in serious trouble because the Dems have had enough and so have the Moderates. Your 33% isn't enough to pull him out of it this time. It's like a spoiled little brat that didn't get the spanking as a child finally getting in serious trouble with the authorities. Well, Congress is the Authorities this time. Now, in his own way (by demanding) he is begging you to cover for him once again. It's too late.

This is part of the commie revolution. The legislative branch does not have the power to control the executive branch. That's why we have separation of powers.

I never said if the commies win, we need to have a civil war. What I said is that when the commies remove a President unjustly, such as having secret clandestine inquiries, refusal to let the opponents even so much as see their transcript, and overturn an election, it is time for a civil war, because everything they do is unconstitutional.

The election is where citizens get to vote in or out a candidate for Prescient, not the legislative branch. This is particularly true when it's the opposing party that has been talking impeachment, and looking for a crime to match their punitive actions. That's not the way it works for real Americans.

But that won’t happen. You’ll see all the evidence. And if he’s removed republicans will have gone along.

8 Times trump put pressure on taylor to get Ukraine to announce they are looking into Biden.

Trump is guilty af. So nothing unjust if he’s removed. Sorry

That's the problem: we're not seeing any evidence because the Democrats are hiding the fact they have none. Now they announced a possible delay until after the holiday. Why? Because like the phony story by the Balls broad, they continue to find something.....anything they can get Trump on.

Every other evil scheme your side has tried failed miserably. When are you going to learn this is the trend?

Right now, the House is equiv to a Grand Jury. And yes, it has some Republicans represented on it. It's closed doors just like every other Grand Jury EVER. The only job they have is to determine if there is enough evidence to bring charges and what those charges are. Once that is done, it goes to pre senate House hearings. At that time, Rumps lawyers gets to see all the evidence and argue their case to the constitutionality of those charges. Once that is done, the House Votes for Impeachment or not. If impeachment is voted positive then it's give over to the Senate for the Trial for either aquital or removal of office. Right now, the only ones that get to speak are the Grand Jury members or the House Committee Members and Special Prosecutor. And those are also the only ones allowed in the room outside of the people they are questioning.

So how about getting a better 4x6 card from your handlers. The one you are reading from makes you look like a complete hack.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Funny, around here, the biggest threat is from the right wingers who are armed. About 50 feet away is a ultra right winger who is armed that gets my vote for the most unstable. He's a Rumpster all the way through. If Rump were to lose the election or were to be convicted for removal by the Senate and call for an armed response, he would be one of the first to respond. And guess what, I would be his first target. That means that he wouldn't fare too well in the exchange. Rumps Army would fall pretty quickly since they would be mostly be made up of fruitcakes that would wage direct war on anyone that they deem as Liberals. And that means anyone not fruitcakes like them. That means that many Conservatives will be targeted as well. Your idea that you will need to get rid of all the Liberal's guns means that anyone not a Rumpster needs to be disarmed. Shades of Tyranny on that one. And that hasn't worked out real well in the past for other groups of people either. So keep spewing your crap. But do us all a favor and don't follow through with it.

What a dreamer you are. First off, Trump would never lead any of his supporters into a civil war. Secondly, most people on the right are law abiding people, and we take out our anger at the ballot box, not in the street and on police officers.

But you do bring up a good point, and that is the left is pushing us to the brink of war. When these anti-Americans do anything possible to remove a duely elected President, that means the commies have taken over, and my vote no longer counts. Because if they can do that to one Republican, they'll be able to do it to any Republican, and that is a call out for war.

This is why I've always been behind having two countries instead of one. Make a division line from north to south. On one side will be the Democrats, and on the other the Republicans. We will have a national vote to decide who gets which side.

If we don't do this soon, eventually the Democrats will do something to spark a civil war.

One real problem with what you are saying. The only side that even brings up a civil war is yours. And yours talks about stockpiling for WHEN it happens. Are you saying that if the Dems win heavily at the ballot box that you will see that as a reason to have a civil war? If that is the case, it's not the Dems that are the danger of causing a Civil War. It's your bunch.

And you need to quite giving Rump so many free rides. He's a friggin embarrassment. He goes from one embarrassment to another almost weekly. And the only reason he does this is because you won't call him on any of his BS. He's always been a spoiled little boy. Spoiled little boys will always push the envelope until they find the limits. So far, you haven't shown him the limits. So he just gets worse and worse. Now he's in serious trouble because the Dems have had enough and so have the Moderates. Your 33% isn't enough to pull him out of it this time. It's like a spoiled little brat that didn't get the spanking as a child finally getting in serious trouble with the authorities. Well, Congress is the Authorities this time. Now, in his own way (by demanding) he is begging you to cover for him once again. It's too late.

This is part of the commie revolution. The legislative branch does not have the power to control the executive branch. That's why we have separation of powers.

I never said if the commies win, we need to have a civil war. What I said is that when the commies remove a President unjustly, such as having secret clandestine inquiries, refusal to let the opponents even so much as see their transcript, and overturn an election, it is time for a civil war, because everything they do is unconstitutional.

The election is where citizens get to vote in or out a candidate for Prescient, not the legislative branch. This is particularly true when it's the opposing party that has been talking impeachment, and looking for a crime to match their punitive actions. That's not the way it works for real Americans.

Once a President is in office, he is bound to operate within the confines of the Office. If he doesn't then there is a system in place to deal with it. What you are seeing is that system in action. One of the jobs of the Congress is to oversee the executive branch. Rump has tried (and been very effective because of your free rides) in negating that. Well, the chickens have come to roost.

Same goes for gun regulations. At some point, society will demand some gun regulation. You and I may not fully agree on the level that Society settles for firearms regulation but it will happen. The only thing one side or the other can do is to dump hundreds of millions into the system to delay it. But in the end, Society will get what it wants. It could be from a ballot box, Executive Branch, Legislative or Judicial. But all of these, in the end, go back to the ballot box and the Constitution of the United States and the State Constitutions.

Meanwhile, you are going to scream that it's Unconstitutional and cry "Just wait until our next Savior comes, you'll see".

Our state was one of the late states to get CCW laws in place. Since then, classes have been backlogged and still are. Now, more females are getting their CCW licenses than men. When our CCW law came about, we had a liberal Democrat Governor at the time. Even he wasn't stupid enough to veto the bill, and the following bills making carrying a weapon more lawful than ever.

Bottom line is that the interest in gun ownership and self-defense grows every day in this country. At one time, we had one indoor firing rage in the Cleveland area. You walked in, and got a booth right away. You had your choice of stalls.

Men would bring their guns to the range, and the women would sit behind the glass either watching them, or reading a book or something. Today, it's at least an hour wait to get a booth at that same range. And the women are not sitting behind the glass watching their menfolk having fun. They are in front of the glass now with them.

That's besides the fact that several other ranges have opened up in the area, and while I've never been to the other ones, I've been told they too have an hour wait to get a booth.

Sounds to me like you need to open one up yourself. It's called Capitalism. You see a need and then you fill that need. You want to blame the Democrats because your Capitalists can't take advantage of a Capitalistic opportunity. Get t different 4x6 card from your handler.

 

[Markle]

So far, I've never needed one. I don't make a habit of carrying things I don't need.

Amusing!

Do you not carry a spare tire, jack, and lug wrench? I personally, I go a bit overboard. All my cars also have jumper cables, flares, a first aid kit, and a few other necessities.

You are kept safer because I, and the "Rays from Cleveland" DO have loaded guns in our houses and on our persons and the criminals don't know which is which.

If you do not believe that to be true, please print the sign below and put one on your front door and in the back window of your car. Let us know how that works for you.

 

[cutter]

The people that legally own guns are not the people you need to worry about. Pass all the gun laws you want criminals will not obey them. The only thing it does is disarm the people that will never be a threat to anyone but criminals and criminals will be more protected while committing their crimes. Just make it illegal for criminals to possess guns and see how many obey that law. Hint....none.