If lockdowns & masks work, why are the vast majority of Covid deaths in leftist states?

[Nostra]

Dems claim rightwingers refuse to wear masks. Then explain why more people died in lefty states.

Bring some science, not "ORANGE MAN BAD"!

State	Deaths / 1M pop	Total Cases	Confirmed Cases	Confirmed Case Fatality Rate	Total Case Fatality Rate	Tests	Tests / 1M pop	Confirmed Cases / 1M pop	New Deaths	Deaths
California	1,336	-	3,563,618	1.48%	-	48,897,190	1,237,521	90,190	-	52,782
New York	2,470	-	1,693,580	2.84%	-	38,409,107	1,974,400	87,058	-	48,042
Texas	1,533	-	2,672,266	1.66%	-	23,204,166	800,257	92,160	-	44,453
Florida	1,450	-	1,918,100	1.62%	-	21,901,603	1,019,735	89,306	-	31,142
Pennsylvania	1,890	-	940,831	2.57%	-	10,476,323	818,336	73,491	-	24,193
New Jersey	2,626	-	795,785	2.93%	-	10,690,625	1,203,602	89,593	-	23,321
Illinois	1,800	-	1,189,416	1.92%	-	18,234,668	1,438,993	93,863	-	22,803
Georgia	1,646	-	1,011,807	1.73%	-	7,712,024	726,356	95,297	-	17,480
Ohio	1,484	-	970,583	1.79%	-	10,084,481	862,725	83,033	-	17,346
Michigan	1,657	-	649,057	2.55%	-	10,985,614	1,100,007	64,991	-	16,544
Massachusetts	2,329	-	582,844	2.78%	-	16,317,937	2,348,073	83,868	-	16,182
Arizona	2,206	-	818,670	1.96%	-	4,210,980	578,533	112,474	-	16,060
Indiana	1,875	-	662,750	1.90%	-	8,056,112	1,196,650	98,445	-	12,623
Tennessee	1,674	-	776,337	1.47%	-	6,797,475	994,776	113,613	-	11,436
North Carolina	1,076	-	863,409	1.31%	-	10,311,881	983,200	82,323	-	11,288
Alabama	2,045	-	497,154	2.02%	-	2,423,471	494,265	101,394	+38	10,029
Louisiana	2,075	-	431,271	2.24%	-	6,004,999	1,291,733	92,771	-	9,647
Virginia	1,048	-	578,559	1.55%	-	7,547,695	884,269	67,783	-	8,943
South Carolina	1,666	-	518,823	1.65%	-	5,999,533	1,165,249	100,767	-	8,576
Missouri	1,394	-	522,581	1.64%	-	5,490,487	894,591	85,147	-	8,555
Maryland	1,310	-	383,956	2.06%	-	7,948,627	1,314,761	63,509	+14	7,919
Connecticut	2,148	-	283,128	2.70%	-	6,804,929	1,908,662	79,412	-	7,658
Mississippi	2,266	-	295,675	2.28%	-	2,472,673	830,830	99,348	+19	6,743
Minnesota	1,163	-	485,655	1.35%	-	7,376,464	1,307,969	86,115	-	6,558
Wisconsin	1,106	-	564,592	1.14%	-	3,196,304	548,964	96,968	-	6,440
Colorado	1,035	-	430,615	1.38%	-	2,585,390	448,951	74,776	-	5,959
Iowa	1,743	-	364,892	1.51%	-	4,088,220	1,295,762	115,653	-	5,498
Arkansas	1,741	-	322,949	1.63%	-	3,169,449	1,050,243	107,014	-	5,254
Washington	664	-	344,660	1.47%	-	5,301,508	696,203	45,261	-	5,059
Nevada	1,613	-	294,289	1.69%	-	2,729,627	886,198	95,544	-	4,967
Kansas	1,630	-	296,954	1.60%	-	1,259,105	432,190	101,930	-	4,750
Kentucky	1,046	-	406,201	1.15%	-	4,521,249	1,011,992	90,920	-	4,671
Oklahoma	1,146	-	424,999	1.07%	-	3,516,251	888,622	107,405	-	4,534
New Mexico	1,784	-	185,542	2.02%	-	2,710,151	1,292,500	88,487	-	3,740
Rhode Island	2,384	-	126,849	1.99%	-	3,022,306	2,852,952	119,741	-	2,525
West Virginia	1,292	-	132,416	1.74%	-	2,198,226	1,230,020	74,094	+8	2,309
Oregon	528	-	156,037	1.43%	-	3,760,400	891,568	36,995	-	2,225
Nebraska	1,077	-	201,346	1.04%	-	967,551	500,179	104,087	-	2,084
Puerto Rico	641	-	183,432	1.12%	-	464,073	145,309	57,436	+8	2,048
Utah	608	-	371,979	0.52%	-	3,828,322	1,194,127	116,027	-	1,949
South Dakota	2,134	-	112,652	1.68%	-	423,463	478,674	127,339	-	1,888
Idaho	1,044	-	171,836	1.09%	-	1,092,871	609,839	95,887	-	1,871
North Dakota	1,899	-	99,957	1.45%	-	405,387	531,961	131,166	-	1,447
Delaware	1,464	-	87,193	1.64%	-	627,084	643,979	89,542	-	1,426
Montana	1,284	-	100,158	1.37%	-	1,081,562	1,011,961	93,713	-	1,372
New Hampshire	860	-	75,803	1.54%	-	1,662,742	1,222,864	55,749	-	1,170
District of Columbia	1,450	-	40,818	2.51%	-	1,233,983	1,748,473	57,836	+4	1,023
Maine	524	-	45,091	1.56%	-	1,871,610	1,392,347	33,545	+2	705
Wyoming	1,178	-	54,527	1.25%	-	641,380	1,108,199	94,214	-	682
Hawaii	310	-	27,623	1.59%	-	1,120,660	791,498	19,510	-	439
Alaska	409	-	56,428	0.53%	-	1,704,660	2,330,219	77,135	-	299
Vermont	330	-	15,372	1.34%	-	1,078,840	1,728,941	24,635	-	20

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Because more people live in leftist states.

derp derp derp

Link?

 

[Nostra]

That doesn't even address that you claimed it was several States

And I have shown you that it was Florida. You know it was NY. It was also at LEAST Illinois and NJ.

Ya know why that was the case?

Because that was the policy put out by the CDC at that time. TRUMP's CDC

Benito wasn’t following CDC guidelines, Liar. I

 

[Lesh]

So no, you can't provide the actual quotes to support your lame ass claim that DeSantas ordered thousands Covid patients into retirement homes like Cuomo.

Yes, Lesh still can't back up his claim that De Santas ordred 15,000 people to their death like Cuomo did

I never claimed that DeSantis ordered thousands covid patients into retirement homes.

I said and provided proof that he had that same POLICY at that same time.

How many were sent back is an unknown number...much like Cuomo

 

[Lesh]

State missteps failed frail in Florida’s nursing homes

As coronavirus deaths increased exponentially in elder care centers, Gov. Ron DeSantis took a victory lap. Along with...

www.jacksonville.com

"Also last week, he announced a Jacksonville nursing home that hadn’t opened yet would take COVID-19 patients who can’t be isolated in their current facilities.

DeSantis has trumpeted that he avoided the avalanche of deaths like in New York and New Jersey because he prohibited hospitals from transferring positive cases back to facilities. But he didn’t ban the practice until May 5."

It didn't become an issue because Florida hospitals at that time were not overwhelmed like in NY

Show the quotes you're referring to in the article

Typical. Both were provided to you initially

I said to cite the specific quotes that back up what you claim that article says.

Nowhere did it say your claim that Florida was sending thousands of Covid patients into retirement homes like Cuomo, you lied.

You also said there were more States that did that, you didn't show that either

It does say it in the article linked above....he and Cuomo stopped doing it in May 2020....Not only did he send covid hospital patients back in to nursing homes, DeSantis never even separated covid positive residents from the other residents.

After saying he would conduct only “surveillance testing” at facilities, DeSantis changed course last week and will at least partly try to adhere to federal guidelines by testing all staffers over the next two weeks, The Post has learned.

Beyond that it wasn’t until this month that DeSantis made basic infection containment, like isolating COVID-positive residents, a requirement, not a suggestion.

He ordered elder care centers two weeks ago to isolate them or ship them out to hospitals or another home without cases.

Also last week, he announced a Jacksonville nursing home that hadn’t opened yet would take COVID-19 patients who can’t be isolated in their current facilities.

DeSantis has trumpeted that he avoided the avalanche of deaths like in New York and New Jersey because he prohibited hospitals from transferring positive cases back to facilities. But he didn’t ban the practice until May 5

Thank you

 

[Nostra]

So no, you can't provide the actual quotes to support your lame ass claim that DeSantas ordered thousands Covid patients into retirement homes like Cuomo.

Yes, Lesh still can't back up his claim that De Santas ordred 15,000 people to their death like Cuomo did

I never claimed that DeSantis ordered thousands covid patients into retirement homes.

I said and provided proof that he had that same POLICY at that same time.

How many were sent back is an unknown number...much like Cuomo

You provided no such proof.

 

[kaz]

Yes, Lesh still can't back up his claim that De Santas ordred 15,000 people to their death like Cuomo did

Start by being honest. I never made that claim.

What I claimed was that DeSantis had the exact same mandate in place at exactly the same time as Cuomo. And I proved that to be true so suck my sweaty asshole.

Yea..you earned it.

You didn't show that, actually. You gave a link bout you couldn't find any quotes in it.

You clearly claimed they did the same thing, they were equally bad, which is bull shit, liar.


De Santas did not order covid victims into nursing homes like Cuomo and he didn't cover anything up like Cuomo

 

[kaz]

That doesn't even address that you claimed it was several States

And I have shown you that it was Florida. You know it was NY. It was also at LEAST Illinois and NJ.

Ya know why that was the case?

Because that was the policy put out by the CDC at that time. TRUMP's CDC

Another claim you can't back up, that the CDC said to put covid patients into nursing homes and then cover it up

 

[kaz]

State missteps failed frail in Florida’s nursing homes

As coronavirus deaths increased exponentially in elder care centers, Gov. Ron DeSantis took a victory lap. Along with...

www.jacksonville.com

"Also last week, he announced a Jacksonville nursing home that hadn’t opened yet would take COVID-19 patients who can’t be isolated in their current facilities.

DeSantis has trumpeted that he avoided the avalanche of deaths like in New York and New Jersey because he prohibited hospitals from transferring positive cases back to facilities. But he didn’t ban the practice until May 5."

It didn't become an issue because Florida hospitals at that time were not overwhelmed like in NY

Show the quotes you're referring to in the article

Typical. Both were provided to you initially

I said to cite the specific quotes that back up what you claim that article says.

Nowhere did it say your claim that Florida was sending thousands of Covid patients into retirement homes like Cuomo, you lied.

You also said there were more States that did that, you didn't show that either

It does say it in the article linked above....he and Cuomo stopped doing it in May 2020....Not only did he send covid hospital patients back in to nursing homes, DeSantis never even separated covid positive residents from the other residents.

After saying he would conduct only “surveillance testing” at facilities, DeSantis changed course last week and will at least partly try to adhere to federal guidelines by testing all staffers over the next two weeks, The Post has learned.

Beyond that it wasn’t until this month that DeSantis made basic infection containment, like isolating COVID-positive residents, a requirement, not a suggestion.

He ordered elder care centers two weeks ago to isolate them or ship them out to hospitals or another home without cases.

Also last week, he announced a Jacksonville nursing home that hadn’t opened yet would take COVID-19 patients who can’t be isolated in their current facilities.

DeSantis has trumpeted that he avoided the avalanche of deaths like in New York and New Jersey because he prohibited hospitals from transferring positive cases back to facilities. But he didn’t ban the practice until May 5

First, you stated as fact yet again that De Santas was sending covid patients into retirement homes with no quotes that said that.

Then your quotes are about micromanaging retirement homes as if De Santas didn't order separating covid patients means he ordered them to be mingled, which is moronic.

With Democrats, Republican Governors and Presidents are personally responsible for every micro management of everyone in the country while Democrats aren't even responsible for their own behavior.

Your standards

Democrat - Ordered covid patients into retirement homes killing 15K people then covered it up.

Republican - Expected retirement homes to be smart enough to separate covid patients from other patients.

Oh your God, it's the same! That's just stupid

 

[kaz]

So no, you can't provide the actual quotes to support your lame ass claim that DeSantas ordered thousands Covid patients into retirement homes like Cuomo.

Yes, Lesh still can't back up his claim that De Santas ordred 15,000 people to their death like Cuomo did

I never claimed that DeSantis ordered thousands covid patients into retirement homes.

I said and provided proof that he had that same POLICY at that same time.

How many were sent back is an unknown number...much like Cuomo

That's still lie, you never showed that DeSantas had the policy of sending people into retirement homes or that he ever did it at all. And your implication was clearly they did the same things and they didn't

 

[kaz]

State missteps failed frail in Florida’s nursing homes

As coronavirus deaths increased exponentially in elder care centers, Gov. Ron DeSantis took a victory lap. Along with...

www.jacksonville.com

"Also last week, he announced a Jacksonville nursing home that hadn’t opened yet would take COVID-19 patients who can’t be isolated in their current facilities.

DeSantis has trumpeted that he avoided the avalanche of deaths like in New York and New Jersey because he prohibited hospitals from transferring positive cases back to facilities. But he didn’t ban the practice until May 5."

It didn't become an issue because Florida hospitals at that time were not overwhelmed like in NY

Show the quotes you're referring to in the article

Typical. Both were provided to you initially

I said to cite the specific quotes that back up what you claim that article says.

Nowhere did it say your claim that Florida was sending thousands of Covid patients into retirement homes like Cuomo, you lied.

You also said there were more States that did that, you didn't show that either

It does say it in the article linked above....he and Cuomo stopped doing it in May 2020....Not only did he send covid hospital patients back in to nursing homes, DeSantis never even separated covid positive residents from the other residents.

After saying he would conduct only “surveillance testing” at facilities, DeSantis changed course last week and will at least partly try to adhere to federal guidelines by testing all staffers over the next two weeks, The Post has learned.

Beyond that it wasn’t until this month that DeSantis made basic infection containment, like isolating COVID-positive residents, a requirement, not a suggestion.

He ordered elder care centers two weeks ago to isolate them or ship them out to hospitals or another home without cases.

Also last week, he announced a Jacksonville nursing home that hadn’t opened yet would take COVID-19 patients who can’t be isolated in their current facilities.

DeSantis has trumpeted that he avoided the avalanche of deaths like in New York and New Jersey because he prohibited hospitals from transferring positive cases back to facilities. But he didn’t ban the practice until May 5

Thank you

Another leftist poster repeating your accusations without backing them up either doesn't mean shit

 

[Lesh]

So no, you can't provide the actual quotes to support your lame ass claim that DeSantas ordered thousands Covid patients into retirement homes like Cuomo.

Yes, Lesh still can't back up his claim that De Santas ordred 15,000 people to their death like Cuomo did

I never claimed that DeSantis ordered thousands covid patients into retirement homes.

I said and provided proof that he had that same POLICY at that same time.

How many were sent back is an unknown number...much like Cuomo

That's still lie, you never showed that DeSantas had the policy of sending people into retirement homes or that he ever did it at all. And your implication was clearly they did the same things and they didn't

I showed that Desantis rescinded that policy on May 5 so prior to that it WAS the policy in Florida

 

[Lesh]

That doesn't even address that you claimed it was several States

And I have shown you that it was Florida. You know it was NY. It was also at LEAST Illinois and NJ.

Ya know why that was the case?

Because that was the policy put out by the CDC at that time. TRUMP's CDC

Another claim you can't back up, that the CDC said to put covid patients into nursing homes and then cover it up

You made two claims there. Only one of which was ever said.

Are you dishonest or stupid?

 

[kaz]

So no, you can't provide the actual quotes to support your lame ass claim that DeSantas ordered thousands Covid patients into retirement homes like Cuomo.

Yes, Lesh still can't back up his claim that De Santas ordred 15,000 people to their death like Cuomo did

I never claimed that DeSantis ordered thousands covid patients into retirement homes.

I said and provided proof that he had that same POLICY at that same time.

How many were sent back is an unknown number...much like Cuomo

That's still lie, you never showed that DeSantas had the policy of sending people into retirement homes or that he ever did it at all. And your implication was clearly they did the same things and they didn't

I showed that Desantis rescinded that policy on May 5 so prior to that it WAS the policy in Florida

You didn't show that DeSantis created the policy, ordered any COVID patients into retirement homes like Cuomo or covered it up like Cuomo.

Cuomo ordered COVID sufferers into retirement homes. All you came back with what DeSantas didn't order COVID patients in retirement homes to be separated. He didn't order them not to be separated either. As if they weren't smart enough to do that. My mother is in a retirement community in Florida and shocker, they separated Covid patients. They didn't need DeSantas to tell them to do that, dumb ass

 

[kaz]

That doesn't even address that you claimed it was several States

And I have shown you that it was Florida. You know it was NY. It was also at LEAST Illinois and NJ.

Ya know why that was the case?

Because that was the policy put out by the CDC at that time. TRUMP's CDC

Another claim you can't back up, that the CDC said to put covid patients into nursing homes and then cover it up

You made two claims there. Only one of which was ever said.

Are you dishonest or stupid?

You said Cuomo was just following CDC guidelines, you just keep lying

 

[Nostra]

So no, you can't provide the actual quotes to support your lame ass claim that DeSantas ordered thousands Covid patients into retirement homes like Cuomo.

Yes, Lesh still can't back up his claim that De Santas ordred 15,000 people to their death like Cuomo did

I never claimed that DeSantis ordered thousands covid patients into retirement homes.

I said and provided proof that he had that same POLICY at that same time.

How many were sent back is an unknown number...much like Cuomo

That's still lie, you never showed that DeSantas had the policy of sending people into retirement homes or that he ever did it at all. And your implication was clearly they did the same things and they didn't

I showed that Desantis rescinded that policy on May 5 so prior to that it WAS the policy in Florida

You showed no such thing.