If Freedom Of Religion Includes Islam Then Why Doesn't The Pledge Of Allegiance Mention It

[Quantrill]

No. I don’t “ignore” any such thing. I dispute it. I deny your claim.

Islam is a “state” religion in many countries. It is clearly not, itself, a nation.

Why did you make such an I supported claim?

No, Islam is a nation. It governs every aspect of the Muslims life under Shariah law. That includes social, economic, and political. As well as diet and dress.

From (Islam Beliefs And Teachings, Ghulam Sarwar, The Muslim Educational Trust, 2003)

"Shariah is the code of law for the Islamic way of life....It is the best system of law from Allah for humanity to follow." p.(153)

"Shariah has rules for every aspect of life." p.(153)

"Islam is a complete way of life. No part of the life of an individual or a community is left out of Islam." p. (165)

"Everything in Islam is for the benefit and welfare of humanity. The economic principles of Islam aim to establish a just society in which we behave responsibly.... p. (165)

"Politics is a part of Islam. It cannot be separated from it. Indeed, the separation of religion and politics is meaningless in Islam. Just as Islam teaches us how to say Selah....so it teaches us how to run a state, form a government, elect representatives, make treaties, and conduct trade." p.(169)

"The Islamic state is duty bound to implement the laws of the Quran and the Sunnah. p. (170)

"Muslims, wherever they are, form one nation." p. (203)

"As Muslims, we must also work towards the establishment of the supremacy of Allah's Law and the removal of evil from the society in which we live. This is Jihad...." p. (80)

Islam is a nation with laws governing every aspect of the Muslims life. The Muslims goal is to get the country where they live, to first allow them to govern themselves under their Shariah Law. Which means Shariah courts are set up with Muslim judges. Then they will attempt to get certain areas designated Shariah Law Zones, where whoever enters will come under Shariah Law.

Their overall goal is to bring that country where they live under Shariah Law. Unless you live in a Muslim country, Islam is an enemy nation living in your country with your defeat as their goal.

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[Zincwarrior]

Since Islam is a government religion, it cannot qualify for freedom of religion here in the U.S.

Its not,strange idea though.

 

[dblack]

For it says that we are one nation under God not one nation under Allah. The United States of America was founded as a Christian nation not Islamic.

The United States wasn't founded on the Pledge of Allegiance.

 

[PeterPilot]

For it says that we are one nation under God not one nation under Allah. The United States of America was founded as a Christian nation not Islamic.

The Constitution was written in 1787, ratified 2 years later.

PoA was not written until a century later.

 

[BackAgain]

No, Islam is a nation. It governs every aspect of the Muslims life under Shariah law. That includes social, economic, and political. As well as diet and dress.

From (Islam Beliefs And Teachings, Ghulam Sarwar, The Muslim Educational Trust, 2003)

"Shariah is the code of law for the Islamic way of life....It is the best system of law from Allah for humanity to follow." p.(153)

"Shariah has rules for every aspect of life." p.(153)

"Islam is a complete way of life. No part of the life of an individual or a community is left out of Islam." p. (165)

"Everything in Islam is for the benefit and welfare of humanity. The economic principles of Islam aim to establish a just society in which we behave responsibly.... p. (165)

"Politics is a part of Islam. It cannot be separated from it. Indeed, the separation of religion and politics is meaningless in Islam. Just as Islam teaches us how to say Selah....so it teaches us how to run a state, form a government, elect representatives, make treaties, and conduct trade." p.(169)

"The Islamic state is duty bound to implement the laws of the Quran and the Sunnah. p. (170)

"Muslims, wherever they are, form one nation." p. (203)

"As Muslims, we must also work towards the establishment of the supremacy of Allah's Law and the removal of evil from the society in which we live. This is Jihad...." p. (80)

Islam is a nation with laws governing every aspect of the Muslims life. The Muslims goal is to get the country where they live, to first allow them to govern themselves under their Shariah Law. Which means Shariah courts are set up with Muslim judges. Then they will attempt to get certain areas designated Shariah Law Zones, where whoever enters will come under Shariah Law.

Their overall goal is to bring that country where they live under Shariah Law. Unless you live in a Muslim country, Islam is an enemy nation living in your country with your defeat as their goal.

Quantrill

Nope

It is a just a religion. It’s one I find highly disagreeable.

And, by the way, I also see that Islam has a bunch of fanatics who buy the Islamic commands to convert non Muslims into their religion. And their manner of conversion is hateful.

But their desires don’t make them a nation.

 

[San Souci]

For it says that we are one nation under God not one nation under Allah. The United States of America was founded as a Christian nation not Islamic.

Because Islam is a 7th Century Death cult---How about One Nation under Dianetics? Scientology is considered a Religion--Instead of a Ripoff Mind Bending cult.

 

[Quantrill]

Nope

It is a just a religion. It’s one I find highly disagreeable.

And, by the way, I also see that Islam has a bunch of fanatics who buy the Islamic commands to convert non Muslims into their religion. And their manner of conversion is hateful.

But their desires don’t make them a nation.

Yup, it's a nation with a religion. As I showed you.

They act on what they say they are. They don't act on what you want to say they are. They want people like you to believe they are just a religion so they can continue on with their nation building. Slowly replacing the laws of the country with their Shariah law.

But go ahead and play stupid.

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[BackAgain]

Yup, it's a nation with a religion. As I showed you.

They act on what they say they are. They don't act on what you want to say they are. They want people like you to believe they are just a religion so they can continue on with their nation building. Slowly replacing the laws of the country with their Shariah law.

But go ahead and play stupid.

Quantrill

Nope. It is just a religion. It isn’t a nation and you didn’t show anything to the contrary.

You are the one playing stupid. Except, you aren’t playing at it.

 

[PeterPilot]

Quantrill

What do you see as the difference between Sharia Law and Talmudic Law?

 

[Quantrill]

Quantrill

What do you see as the difference between Sharia Law and Talmudic Law?

Well, that's a broad subject. I guess I will start with this.

1.) One proposes service and worship to a false god. That would be Shariah Law. And one proposes service and worship to the true God. That would be Talmudic Law.

I'm not saying here that the Talmudic Law is right. I'm saying there is distinction between the God they represent. One is real and true and one is not.

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[PeterPilot]

Well, that's a broad subject. I guess I will start with this.

1.) One proposes service and worship to a false god. That would be Shariah Law. And one proposes service and worship to the true God. That would be Talmudic Law.

I'm not saying here that the Talmudic Law is right. I'm saying there is distinction between the God they represent. One is real and true and one is not.

Quantrill

Spoken like a true believer.

Did you know that the faith you demonstrate here is the antithesis of reason?

 

[Quantrill]

Spoken like a true believer.

Did you know that the faith you demonstrate here is the antithesis of reason?

As I am.

I know the faith I demonstrate is the antithesis of the worlds reason. It is, however, the demonstration of reason based upon the truth and revelation of God.

In other words, the believer in the true God exercises reason. But our reason is based upon what God has revealed. Not what science thinks it knows.

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[PeterPilot]

As I am.

I know the faith I demonstrate is the antithesis of the worlds reason. It is, however, the demonstration of reason based upon the truth and revelation of God.

In other words, the believer in the true God exercises reason. But our reason is based upon what God has revealed. Not what science thinks it knows.

Quantrill

Is God a biological entity?

 

[Quantrill]

Is God a biological entity?

Why ask me? What does your science and reason tell you?

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[Jarlaxle]

Apostate Muslims maybe. A true Muslim would not drink alcohol.

And yet, the 9/11 hijackers spent the previous night getting loaded in strip clubs.

'Our Lord' speaks to the United States. Found in the Articles of Confederation. "the ninth day of July,in the Year of our Lord one Thousand seven Hundred and Seventy-eight. Found in our present Constitution. "the seventeenth day of September, in the year of our Lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and Eighty-Seven"

Again, 'our Lord' speaks to the founders and America. America was founded based upon the Christian faith in God.

Of course it's a reference to Jesus. Jesus is the Center of the Christian faith which is the worship of God. Worshipping Jesus Christ is worshipping God. He is the God Man.

Your earlier statement is the joke.

Quantrill

And yet, many weren't Christians.

 

[Quantrill]

And yet, many weren't Christians.

So? Many in Iran are not Muslims.

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[PeterPilot]

Why ask me? What does your science and reason tell you?

Quantrill

Sorry, I thought we were here for rational public discussion. I won't make that mistake again.

 

[Jarlaxle]

So? Many in Iran are not Muslims.

Quantrill

"the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
-G. Washington, 1796.

 

[Quantrill]

"the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
-G. Washington, 1796.

Of course it is. Just because it and the people of America are becoming less and less Christian doesn't mean America was not founded on the Christian faith. It was.

It was churches that were built when America was being peopled by Europeans. Not mosques. It was the Bible that Presidents put their hand on when taking oath of office. Not the Koran.

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[Jarlaxle]

Of course it is. Just because it and the people of America are becoming less and less Christian doesn't mean America was not founded on the Christian faith. It was.

It was churches that were built when America was being peopled by Europeans. Not mosques. It was the Bible that Presidents put their hand on when taking oath of office. Not the Koran.

Quantrill

Do you have some sort of cognitive problem?