If everyone in the US had electric cars, 300 million cars in US currently, what would be the strain on the power grid?

[ColonelAngus]

Look at the dumb **** lefties in this thread.

You lefties have no idea what you are talking about.

You are overconfident morons...that is super dangerous.

You dumb asses say math is racist.

 

[Synthaholic]

Again, lithium isn't the only solution for batteries.

Zinc
Sodium
Iron
Hemp
Aluminum
Magnesium
Silicon
Seawater

Why am I so ******* brilliant?

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Lithium-ion batteries have ruled for decades. Now they have a challenger.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/11/03/sodium-ion-batteries-sustainable-alternative/

After decades of lithium-ion batteries dominating the market, a new option has emerged: batteries made with sodium ions.

Scientists have been researching alternatives to lithium for years. Much of the world relies on this kind of battery, but the mining and processing of its materials can be harmful to workers, local communities and the environment.

Sodium has recently emerged as one of the more promising options, and experts say the material could be a cheaper and more environmentally friendly alternative to lithium.

 

[healthmyths]

Why am I so ******* brilliant?

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Lithium-ion batteries have ruled for decades. Now they have a challenger.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/11/03/sodium-ion-batteries-sustainable-alternative/

After decades of lithium-ion batteries dominating the market, a new option has emerged: batteries made with sodium ions.

Scientists have been researching alternatives to lithium for years. Much of the world relies on this kind of battery, but the mining and processing of its materials can be harmful to workers, local communities and the environment.

Sodium has recently emerged as one of the more promising options, and experts say the material could be a cheaper and more environmentally friendly alternative to lithium.

So how will you solve this issue?
Biden's guarantee to ....
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

In 2023, about 4.18 trillion kWh of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States. About 60% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases. about 4.18 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States. About 60% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

And what about Artificial Intelligence computer usage?
AI training is expected to drive the bulk of this demand, at 40 TWh in 2026 and 402 TWh by 2030, with inference's power demand accelerating at the end of the decade. In this model, the 652 TWh projection is more than 16% of the current total electricity

AI Power Consumption: Rapidly Becoming Mission-Critical

Generative AI and rising GPU shipments is pushing data centers to scale to 100,000-plus accelerators, putting emphasis on power as a mission-critical problem to solve.

www.forbes.com

 

[SweetTea]

Why am I so ******* brilliant?

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Lithium-ion batteries have ruled for decades. Now they have a challenger.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/11/03/sodium-ion-batteries-sustainable-alternative/

After decades of lithium-ion batteries dominating the market, a new option has emerged: batteries made with sodium ions.

Scientists have been researching alternatives to lithium for years. Much of the world relies on this kind of battery, but the mining and processing of its materials can be harmful to workers, local communities and the environment.

Sodium has recently emerged as one of the more promising options, and experts say the material could be a cheaper and more environmentally friendly alternative to lithium.

If they have to be charged, I fail to see how this resolves the problem proposed by the OP. Will the environmental loonies be in favor of more nuclear plants to solve this problem or are we going to have 10 windmills and large solar panel arrays in every square mile of our country?

 

[Theowl32]

Getting rid of "fossil fuels" and how it's done.

 

[Synthaholic]

So how will you solve this issue?
Biden's guarantee to ....
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

In 2023, about 4.18 trillion kWh of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States. About 60% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases. about 4.18 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States. About 60% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

And what about Artificial Intelligence computer usage?
AI training is expected to drive the bulk of this demand, at 40 TWh in 2026 and 402 TWh by 2030, with inference's power demand accelerating at the end of the decade. In this model, the 652 TWh projection is more than 16% of the current total electricity

AI Power Consumption: Rapidly Becoming Mission-Critical

Generative AI and rising GPU shipments is pushing data centers to scale to 100,000-plus accelerators, putting emphasis on power as a mission-critical problem to solve.

www.forbes.com

That's not about lithium, now is it? Stay on topic, dipshit.

 

[Synthaholic]

If they have to be charged, I fail to see how this resolves the problem proposed by the OP. Will the environmental loonies be in favor of more nuclear plants to solve this problem or are we going to have 10 windmills and large solar panel arrays in every square mile of our country?

It resolves the lithium problem that wingnuts over-hype.

 

[SweetTea]

It resolves the lithium problem that wingnuts over-hype.

Neat, now figure out where to get the power to charge them all.

The only potentially viable alternative I see now is a battery exchange, with 10s of millions of batteries in reserve being charged with power generated from nuclear power stations.

 

[TimFitz]

Where will the power come from, pixie dust?

The sun.

00% of the growth in electrical power generation is now coming from renewables.

 

[TimFitz]

It resolves the lithium problem that wingnuts over-hype.

They wait for Big Oil to tell them what to harp over next.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You gotta love how the dumb ******* left wing cult ***** in Cali have to ask people not to charge their EVs in the summer.



You people are stupid as hell. Like lower than literally retarded stupid.

At least tards have an excuse,

DONT CHARGE YOUR EVS….BUT ONLY BUY EVS IN 5 YEARS!

 

[hadit]

Has anyone demanded that 300 million EVs be sold immediately?

If you can't say "yes", then your scenario has no point.

Where is the will and political pressure to upgrade the grid? Where is the pressure to immediately build multiple nuclear power plants that are the most reliable, least carbon producing option we have to meet the need? We see the pressure (though it's slacked off a bit now that we see the reality of EV's vs. the fantasy) to force the adoption of EV's and render ICE's illegal.

 

[westwall]

The sun.

00% of the growth in electrical power generation is now coming from renewables.

Ok, where do you get the lithium, cobalt, samarium, yytrium, and all of the other rare earths needed to make your trillions of batteries?

 

[SweetTea]

They wait for Big Oil to tell them what to harp over next.

No, we are taking a pragmatic approach, not a knee-jerk one.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Lefty dumb ***** think EVs powered with FF will reduce the carbon footprint.

They are dumb as rocks. Truly stupid MFers.

 

[Lesh]

Someone show us the math how electric vehicles can be charged via the home.

Just show the power needed and how it will be produced and distributed.

When motor cars began to become popular… if all at once everyone stopped using horses and bought cars… what do you think would have happened?

Yeah. The infrastructure would not have supported it

This is no different

 

[Dr.Know]

Someone show us the math how electric vehicles can be charged via the home.

Just show the power needed and how it will be produced and distributed.

This Green bs with 15 min cities is contingent upon a MASSIVE REDUCTION IN POPULATION.
The big question I have is why are they bringing in people from the 3rd world into the 1st world ? A 3rd world person needs about .4 acre per year of arable soil to live while a person in the developed world needs about 24 acres of land resources to live,,,,this is a disaster for the environment ( Frosty Woolridge author ).

 

[ColonelAngus]

Lets mine cobalt for EVs in Congo and destroy THEIR ENVIRONMENT AND HEALTH.

Lefties are racist *****.

SO ******* RACIST.

 

[jc456]

You gotta love how the dumb ******* left wing cult ***** in Cali have to ask people not to charge their EVs in the summer.



You people are stupid as hell. Like lower than literally retarded stupid.

At least tards have an excuse,

DONT CHARGE YOUR EVS….BUT ONLY BUY EVS IN 5 YEARS!

And they are a cult, they push the cult, it's why obammy went and scolded the blackmen for not staying in the cult. Scamala says it every time she speaks,

 

[TimFitz]

No, we are taking a pragmatic approach, not a knee-jerk one.

No, you’re more often making ridiculous claims fed to you by political marketers reading press releases from big oil companies.

And routinely demonstrating a lack of real knowledge on the energy topic.

Talk radio right wingers have been bellowing that the future MUST be based on continuing to suck on the oil tit.

And saying that renewables will never happen, even as events regularly prove them wrong.

Just look at your beloved wannbe fuhrer. He talks complete nonsense on renewables. And he demanded a billion from Big Oil.