Zone1 If DEI is the SOLE Reason for Every U.S. Disaster Since 1964 Then Logical Reasoning REQUIRES Not a Single Disastrous Incident Occurred PRIOR to 1964.

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Really comes down to one thing. Either you are for meritocracy or you’re not. Hands-down.. And if you wanna talk about slavery and racism, white people and Black people have experienced this all throughout history.

You are bashing something that has ALWAYS been a meritocracy when it comes to DEI. On the other hand prior to the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 hiring, promotion and opportunities were not merit based so its disingenuous that you would try to represent what is going on as a non-belief in meritocracy.

No one cared about a meritocracy when it was pretty much exclusively white people who benefited from the laws. It's only when Black people began catching up in numbers and prosperity that white racists, predominantly males began crying and falsely allegedly that they were being discriminated against.

The employment number of White males & females including those in managerial positions has always been and still are currently, at a higher percentage than their representation in the U.S. population. So how does that equate to anti-white discrimination? Rhetorical question - it DOESN'T.

Trump et al eradicating DEI from the federal workforce only displays his ignorance of the actual history of DEI and meritocracy in the federal workforce:

U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB). Established in 1979, the MSPB is an independent, quasi-judicial agency tasked with safeguarding federal merit systems against partisan political practices and other prohibited personnel actions. Its primary mission is to ensure that federal employees are selected, advanced, and treated based on merit, thereby promoting an effective and efficient federal workforce.​

mspb.gov​

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Key Functions of the MSPB:​

• Adjudication: The MSPB adjudicates appeals from federal employees regarding various personnel actions, including removals, suspensions, furloughs, and demotions. Employees who believe that such actions are unjust can appeal to the MSPB for a fair hearing.
  mspb.gov
  
  
• Studies and Oversight: The MSPB conducts objective, non-partisan studies to assess and evaluate federal merit systems' policies, operations, and practices. These studies aim to ensure that federal employment practices remain free from prohibited personnel practices and adhere to merit system principles.
  bookstore.gpo.gov
  
  
• Protection of Whistleblowers: Under the Whistleblower Protection Act, the MSPB provides a platform for federal employees to file complaints if they face retaliation for disclosing government illegality, waste, or corruption. This function is crucial in maintaining transparency and accountability within federal agencies.
  en.wikipedia.org

The MSPB is composed of three members appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, with no more than two members from the same political party. This structure is designed to maintain the Board's impartiality and non-partisan stance.​

uscode.house.gov​

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In recent developments, there have been significant discussions and actions concerning the federal civil service system. For instance, the reintroduction of policies similar to "Schedule F" aims to reclassify certain federal positions, potentially affecting the merit-based advancement and protections traditionally upheld by the MSPB. These changes have sparked debates about the balance between political oversight and merit-based civil service protections.​

politico.com​

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Understanding the role and functions of the MSPB is essential for comprehending how merit-based hiring and advancement are maintained within the federal government, as well as the challenges and changes that may impact this system.​

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[fncceo]

And what happened to me is that for the last 11 months I'm been studying logical reasoning.

I hope you kept the receipt for those classes.

You're obviously due a full refund.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trumps Highly Qualified and MOST DEI Cabinet in American history

 

[Man With A Plan]

Why don't you enlighten the board with who these allegedly "unqualified" individuals are and what tragedies ensued?

Explain what qualifications Mayor Pete had to become Transportation Secretary? The Supply Chain debacle was one of the tragedies that ensued. So was the train derailment in Palestine, Ohio. When you pick someone only because they check boxes...you get someone who probably can't do the job.

A second example? Karine Jean Pierre. The worst Press Secretary EVER! I didn't like Jen Psaki but she was competent. KJP was a joke right from the start. Someone in a job that was so obviously over her head it bordered on farce!

 

[Lisa558]

Explain what qualifications Mayor Pete had to become Transportation Secretary? Gayness. The Supply Chain debacle was one of the tragedies that ensued. So was the train derailment in Palestine, Ohio. When you pick someone only because they check boxes...you get someone who probably can't do the job.

A second example? Karine Jean Pierre. Black gayness. The worst Press Secretary EVER! I didn't like Jen Psaki but she was competent. KJP was a joke right from the start. Someone in a job that was so obviously over her head it bordered on farce!

The answers to your questions are bolded. These were two good examples of incompetents being selected for diversity.

Another obvious one was the VP - a female black selected for that reason, and the most incompetent, outright stupid VP we’ve ever had.

 

[Man With A Plan]

The answers to your questions are bolded. These were two good examples of incompetents being selected for diversity.

Another obvious one was the VP - a female black selected for that reason, and the most incompetent, outright stupid VP we’ve ever had.

They literally tried to hide Kamala she was so bad. Did someone from the Biden Camp actually sit down with Harris and talk to her? Ask her hard questions? I don't think that EVER happened! She was chosen because she was a woman of color. The fact that they thought she was the BEST woman of color says volumes about the Democratic "bench"!

 

[Mr. Friscus]

This false claim is made just about every single time the term DEI is invoked.

I’ve never heard anyone say that DEI is the SOLE reason for EVERY US disaster since 1964y

I’m going to assume You’re just a DEI Activist who cannot cope and has to hyperbolically straw man.

That diversity, equity and inclusion policies are "bad" for America BECAUSE they allow lesser qualified individuals take jobs and seats in colleges and universities from better qualified whites individuals.

That’s generally true, but not the same as
Your initial claim.. like at all.

You’re so triggered you’re connecting dot A to dot Z.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

DEI is dying a painful death and it should

 

[IM2]

One of the dumber contentions I've seen on here in quite awhile. Nobody is saying the DEI is the reason for modern disasters...what they ARE saying is that promotions based on DEI instead of merit doesn't work and ends up endangering people!

Whites really need to shut the hell up about merit. You have nothing because of merit. Nothing. And we are safer and better off today with the diversity in the workplace than when whites were the only ones being promoted.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

You are bashing something that has ALWAYS been a meritocracy when it comes to DEI. On the other hand prior to the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 hiring, promotion and opportunities were not merit based so its disingenuous that you would try to represent what is going on as a non-belief in meritocracy.

No one cared about a meritocracy when it was pretty much exclusively white people who benefited from the laws. It's only when Black people began catching up in numbers and prosperity that white racists, predominantly males began crying and falsely allegedly that they were being discriminated against.

The employment number of White males & females including those in managerial positions has always been and still are currently, at a higher percentage than their representation in the U.S. population. So how does that equate to anti-white discrimination? Rhetorical question - it DOESN'T.

Trump et al eradicating DEI from the federal workforce only displays his ignorance of the actual history of DEI and meritocracy in the federal workforce:

U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB). Established in 1979, the MSPB is an independent, quasi-judicial agency tasked with safeguarding federal merit systems against partisan political practices and other prohibited personnel actions. Its primary mission is to ensure that federal employees are selected, advanced, and treated based on merit, thereby promoting an effective and efficient federal workforce.​

mspb.gov​

​

Key Functions of the MSPB:​

• Adjudication: The MSPB adjudicates appeals from federal employees regarding various personnel actions, including removals, suspensions, furloughs, and demotions. Employees who believe that such actions are unjust can appeal to the MSPB for a fair hearing.
  mspb.gov
  
  
• Studies and Oversight: The MSPB conducts objective, non-partisan studies to assess and evaluate federal merit systems' policies, operations, and practices. These studies aim to ensure that federal employment practices remain free from prohibited personnel practices and adhere to merit system principles.
  bookstore.gpo.gov
  
  
• Protection of Whistleblowers: Under the Whistleblower Protection Act, the MSPB provides a platform for federal employees to file complaints if they face retaliation for disclosing government illegality, waste, or corruption. This function is crucial in maintaining transparency and accountability within federal agencies.
  en.wikipedia.org

The MSPB is composed of three members appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, with no more than two members from the same political party. This structure is designed to maintain the Board's impartiality and non-partisan stance.​

uscode.house.gov​

​

In recent developments, there have been significant discussions and actions concerning the federal civil service system. For instance, the reintroduction of policies similar to "Schedule F" aims to reclassify certain federal positions, potentially affecting the merit-based advancement and protections traditionally upheld by the MSPB. These changes have sparked debates about the balance between political oversight and merit-based civil service protections.​

politico.com​

​

Understanding the role and functions of the MSPB is essential for comprehending how merit-based hiring and advancement are maintained within the federal government, as well as the challenges and changes that may impact this system.​

​

It comes down to something very simple and straightforward. To you and everyone itt for that matter do you support meritocracy ????

Or do you support race based hiring systems and support lowering the hiring threshold for people based on how they look? That’s all it comes down to.

and again if anyone wants to to bring up bigotry or discrimination in Americas history , they have to take a step back and realize that this was a worldwide phenomenon. White people were enslaved like blacks.. Even today there’s tons of homeless white people so the idea that some BLM leader would get up on television and start talking about “white privilege” or how whites have it made is so brutally offensive, and it is just not right. It is hyperbole and it must be rejected. Because again just think about what the White homeless man would have to say.

 

[IM2]

They literally tried to hide Kamala she was so bad. Did someone from the Biden Camp actually sit down with Harris and talk to her? Ask her hard questions? I don't think that EVER happened! She was chosen because she was a woman of color. The fact that they thought she was the BEST woman of color says volumes about the Democratic "bench"!

Look at this white racist mumbo jumbo.

Kama beat the trump in the debate. That's why he ran from the third agreed to debate and the so-called liberal media let him. She was the better candidate and would have been a better president. But what happened was a classic microcosm of the American workplace. The unqualified white man gets a job and the other whites claim he gets it based on merit instead of his race. Trump won using a racist campaign and aside from Hispanic males, the only group that voted for trump with the majority of both sexes were whites. White women, who Trump took away a right from, voted in the majority for Trump. That's what won it for Trump. And that was due to his skin color, not merit. But the so-called liberal media points at every non white group claiming small percentage increases for Trump was why he won.

Harris was not chosen because she was a woman of color. She was chosen because she is a former 2-time state AG of California and a US Senator. So if Trump is the best whites got, maybe whites need to think about their condition.

 

[IM2]

DEI is dying a painful death and it should

You are a DEI hire.

 

[IM2]

None of you who argue against DEI even know what it is.

 

[IM2]

If you think they happen as often...then you're a bit naive, Mooney! Competence keeps people safer. That's not political...that's simple common sense!

They actually happened more often when everything was all white.

Are you a veteran?

 

[IM2]

You're missing the point, Moonie! Putting someone who isn't qualified into a position where people's lives are at stake and then having them not be able to handle a crisis isn't an "accident"! That is a choice. A bad choice.

No he's not. You're just a racist. Why are you assuming that people of color aren't qualified but only whites can be?

 

[martybegan]

She always goes to a ridiculous extreme and argues against a stance that nobody has taken. It’s a liberal tactic - they do it all the time.

For example, I said college admissions should be decided regardless of race - it should not factor at all - so some libtard here claimed I don’t want blacks in college.

P.S.Also, she is taking excerpts from the book she is writing, full of resentment and lies.

Failure is almost always a cascade of events that lead to something going wrong.

The issue isn't DEI being the sole responsibility, the issue is the overdone focus on it, with the corresponding lack of focus on the core missions of all these agencies and organizations, and the core functions of a given profession or trade.

What we are seeing is the scaling back of the inherent resiliency of many systems that prevent small mistakes from becoming large failures.

Or to put it another way, we have too many ideas people, and not enough execution people.

 

[martybegan]

No he's not. You're just a racist. Why are you assuming that people of color aren't qualified but only whites can be?

The issue is pushing someone up the list simply because they fill in a certain checkbox unrelated to the position in question.

 

[Lisa558]

You are a DEI hire.

^^^ This racist thinks every white woman is an incompetent idiot. Otherwise, why does he assume that anyone white and female got hired due to DEI?

And the irony is that he claims we are saying no black is competent, and nobody ever said that.

He’s the biggest racist on the board.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

It comes down to something very simple and straightforward. To you and everyone itt for that matter do you support meritocracy ????

Or do you support race based hiring systems and support lowering the hiring threshold for people based on how they look? That’s all it comes down to.

and again if anyone wants to to bring up bigotry or discrimination in Americas history , they have to take a step back and realize that this was a worldwide phenomenon. White people were enslaved like blacks.. Even today there’s tons of homeless white people so the idea that some BLM leader would get up on television and start talking about “white privilege” or how whites have it made is so brutally offensive, and it is just not right. It is hyperbole and it must be rejected. Because again just think about what the White homeless man would have to say.

To them, equality is oppression.

 

[IM2]

So I am going to repost this again until it sinks into the minds of these racists what reality actually is on this matter of DEI.

This is from a USMB member posted in a thread that was here titled Black Names.

“I can say for sure that happens because I did it. Before retirement, I was an Engineer. For the last 20 years of my career, I was a Manager and Director and I hired hundreds of people. I reviewed well over a thousand resumes for all kinds of positions. Everything from Secretaries to Engineering Managers. Both Salary and Hourly. I always culled out the resumes with Black Ethnic names. Never shortlisted anybody with a Black Ethnic name. Never hired them.”

Since the Fortune 50 company I worked for had a stupid “affirmative action” hiring policies I never mentioned it to anybody and I always got away with it. A couple of times I was instructed to improve my departmental “diversity” demographics but I always ignored it and never got into any trouble. My stereotype is that anybody with a stupid ghetto Black ethnic name is probably worthless. I could have been wrong a couple of times but I was also probably right 99% of the time.

Glad I did it. I would do it again.”

So for the 20 years up until the year 2020 when this statement was made, were whites who got jobs in this company hired based on merit?

This isn't the only company doing this. And given the comments made by Man with a Plan and others, no matter how qualified a person of color is, they will not be considered such by whites like him. If he and others claim that a 2-time elected state AG who ran the second largest DOJ in this country, and who was an elected senator by the people of the state she served as AG in, was not qualified to run for president, while a failed multi bankruptcy, real estate business inheriting convicted felon white man is, then they just bypass any qualification that's on a person of colors resume and only consider the color of a persons skin..