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/——/ I should have been specific. A 10% cut across the board in discretionary spending. Entitlements can be trimmed by aggressively eliminating fraud and waste./——/ Actually, driver training teaches us to take our foot off the brakes and steer into the skid to regain control. A simple across the board spending cut of 10% would retire the debt in a few years.Don’t be concerned. Trillions are handed out to the ultra wealthy.i used the first stimulus check to pay for materials to build a built-in in my house. i plan to use a second, if i get it to help pay for a new kitchen in my rental property.
i'm not a huge fan of just handing out money. i have serious doubts about, all of this. but if they are handing it out, i will spend it to contribute to the "Stimulus" effect they are going for.
that is part of my reasoning.
more and more, i am coming to believe that the debt, none of the debt, our or other governments, will really be paid off.
we are in a unsustainable situation, and there is no reason to expect anything other than some form of crash and burn.
like when bob and doug mckenizie lost control of the beer truck, on icy road.
"no use steering now".
spending cuts are impossible due to unfunded entitlements.
hell, a spending freeze is impossible for the same reason.
and changing that, in a democratic system, with a greying population seems to be impossible.
hell, DISCUSSING it openly, seems to be impossible.
it seems to be an inherent flaw in the concept of the current model of the liberal nation-state, across the board.
if not worse than that. i believe that illiberal authoritarian states have similar issues, such as russia and china.
We are talking about a temporary emergency, but you use it to attack the systemic problems in government. Never let a crisis slip by without using it for political or deflective reasoning eh ?????Bail out or helping for the purpose of keeping capitalism alive and well in the future ? Now who to help or what formula's are used is another story. Depends on the parties agenda's and long term goals. Never let a good crisis go to waste right ??The "pandemic" caused The Government, by edict to turn off Capitalism.
Prior to pandemic - Capitalism the driving force for positive real change in the USA and the world.
During pandemic - less so.
That's it.
We have had "pandemics" for years now that has caused that. Where in Capitalism do we find the part where the government bails out business?
LOL, always with the excuses. Capitalism is not being "kept alive" when you bail out a company. Capitalism says that when a business fails, it fails. If it creates a void where something is needed others will fill it.
The biggest problem in this country really isn't capitalism or socialism, it's people like yourself who will not be honest.
Yup, reflect on that fact.Lol that’s our money haha
Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.www.cnet.com
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
We are talking about a temporary emergency, but you use it to attack the systemic problems in government. Never let a crisis slip by without using it for political or deflective reasoning eh ?????Bail out or helping for the purpose of keeping capitalism alive and well in the future ? Now who to help or what formula's are used is another story. Depends on the parties agenda's and long term goals. Never let a good crisis go to waste right ??The "pandemic" caused The Government, by edict to turn off Capitalism.
Prior to pandemic - Capitalism the driving force for positive real change in the USA and the world.
During pandemic - less so.
That's it.
We have had "pandemics" for years now that has caused that. Where in Capitalism do we find the part where the government bails out business?
LOL, always with the excuses. Capitalism is not being "kept alive" when you bail out a company. Capitalism says that when a business fails, it fails. If it creates a void where something is needed others will fill it.
The biggest problem in this country really isn't capitalism or socialism, it's people like yourself who will not be honest.
Ok, then during the shut down, maybe the government should have just locked down the treasury, and said you are all on your own.. lol. Good grief.We are talking about a temporary emergency, but you use it to attack the systemic problems in government. Never let a crisis slip by without using it for political or deflective reasoning eh ?????Bail out or helping for the purpose of keeping capitalism alive and well in the future ? Now who to help or what formula's are used is another story. Depends on the parties agenda's and long term goals. Never let a good crisis go to waste right ??The "pandemic" caused The Government, by edict to turn off Capitalism.
Prior to pandemic - Capitalism the driving force for positive real change in the USA and the world.
During pandemic - less so.
That's it.
We have had "pandemics" for years now that has caused that. Where in Capitalism do we find the part where the government bails out business?
LOL, always with the excuses. Capitalism is not being "kept alive" when you bail out a company. Capitalism says that when a business fails, it fails. If it creates a void where something is needed others will fill it.
The biggest problem in this country really isn't capitalism or socialism, it's people like yourself who will not be honest.
We are discussing economic systems. Our "temporary emergencies" never end now. That's why the debt is nearing 28 trillion. That is not capitalism.
Ok, then during the shut down, maybe the government should have just locked down the treasury, and said you are all on your own.. lol. Good grief.We are talking about a temporary emergency, but you use it to attack the systemic problems in government. Never let a crisis slip by without using it for political or deflective reasoning eh ?????Bail out or helping for the purpose of keeping capitalism alive and well in the future ? Now who to help or what formula's are used is another story. Depends on the parties agenda's and long term goals. Never let a good crisis go to waste right ??The "pandemic" caused The Government, by edict to turn off Capitalism.
Prior to pandemic - Capitalism the driving force for positive real change in the USA and the world.
During pandemic - less so.
That's it.
We have had "pandemics" for years now that has caused that. Where in Capitalism do we find the part where the government bails out business?
LOL, always with the excuses. Capitalism is not being "kept alive" when you bail out a company. Capitalism says that when a business fails, it fails. If it creates a void where something is needed others will fill it.
The biggest problem in this country really isn't capitalism or socialism, it's people like yourself who will not be honest.
We are discussing economic systems. Our "temporary emergencies" never end now. That's why the debt is nearing 28 trillion. That is not capitalism.
Since I'm retired and Covid-19 has had relatively little affect on my regular lifestyle, I probably should redistribute any more stimulus, but I might not.Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
You accuse, yet all these issues have been addressed and corrected in the past through regulatory actions and laws to a large degree. No, capitalist don't want to poison the air that they breath or the ground that they walk upon, but globalist corporation's are a horse of a different color. If a globalist corporation CEO or group holding can use somewhere in the world as their residence, otherwise to escape their poison's, then the world gets what it gets. Look at how toxic China had become due to globalist using it's location to build wealth beyond imagination while living themselves elsewhere in the world ??Since I'm retired and Covid-19 has had relatively little affect on my regular lifestyle, I probably should redistribute any more stimulus, but I might not.Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
Capitalism has spawned wealth creation and innovation beyond the imaginations of feudal lords and Roman slave merchants, but it comes with a huge social price tag:
How Capitalism Kills During a Pandemic
"But the same feature of the system that breeds innovation — the imperative that capitalists maximize profits — also gives rise to capitalism’s most destructive tendencies.
"It means that capitalists prioritize profits over the welfare of their workers and of humanity as a whole.
"Owners will make their employees work in uncomfortable and dangerous conditions and refuse to pay them a living wage.
"They will pollute the environment with deadly toxins and planet-destroying greenhouse gases before spending money on safe production processes.
"And they will oppose life-saving social policies like Medicare for All because they increase their taxes and strengthen employees’ power to bargain for better wages.
"Which brings us back to coronavirus.'
Yes don’t take it in the first place .. let us earn it, keep it, and use it ..Yup, reflect on that fact.Lol that’s our money hahaStimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
Shutting down the economy and not allowing people to work isnt capitalism, you epic moron. How stupid are you that you couldnt see such an obvious thing?Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
If capitalism can't function without a profit motive, it's hard to see how those who own the means of production will ever prioritize the welfare of their workers and society as a whole over their bottom line?It's not capitalism's fault; it's the way it has been applied
The extraction of God from the equation by leftist communist is what has caused the problems you now decry, but of course you knew that but won't admit itIf capitalism can't function without a profit motive, it's hard to see how those who own the means of production will ever prioritize the welfare of their workers and society as a whole over their bottom line?It's not capitalism's fault; it's the way it has been applied
Lol. Did you miss it? How could you?Examples pleaseDon’t be concerned. Trillions are handed out to the ultra wealthy.i used the first stimulus check to pay for materials to build a built-in in my house. i plan to use a second, if i get it to help pay for a new kitchen in my rental property.
i'm not a huge fan of just handing out money. i have serious doubts about, all of this. but if they are handing it out, i will spend it to contribute to the "Stimulus" effect they are going for.
We have to work towards a point of equilibrium at which we can decrease the inequities we're seeing, and still maintain the dynamic production and innovation inherent in capitalism.If capitalism can't function without a profit motive, it's hard to see how those who own the means of production will ever prioritize the welfare of their workers and society as a whole over their bottom line?It's not capitalism's fault; it's the way it has been applied
This is what I would like to know. I've heard two different things and that is we won't have to pay the money back, but if we do, it will be next year when tax time rolls around again.Are you all going to give the money back ?
You clearly don’t know the meaning of capitalism. By definition, it doesn’t include bailouts for anyone.Bail out or helping for the purpose of keeping capitalism alive and well in the future ? Now who to help or what formula's are used is another story. Depends on the parties agenda's and long term goals. Never let a good crisis go to waste right ??The "pandemic" caused The Government, by edict to turn off Capitalism.
Prior to pandemic - Capitalism the driving force for positive real change in the USA and the world.
During pandemic - less so.
That's it.
We have had "pandemics" for years now that has caused that. Where in Capitalism do we find the part where the government bails out business?
/—-/ So you don’t even want to try to rein in spending. 11 Bizarre Things the U.S. Government Actually Spent Money On/——/ I should have been specific. A 10% cut across the board in discretionary spending. Entitlements can be trimmed by aggressively eliminating fraud and waste./——/ Actually, driver training teaches us to take our foot off the brakes and steer into the skid to regain control. A simple across the board spending cut of 10% would retire the debt in a few years.Don’t be concerned. Trillions are handed out to the ultra wealthy.i used the first stimulus check to pay for materials to build a built-in in my house. i plan to use a second, if i get it to help pay for a new kitchen in my rental property.
i'm not a huge fan of just handing out money. i have serious doubts about, all of this. but if they are handing it out, i will spend it to contribute to the "Stimulus" effect they are going for.
that is part of my reasoning.
more and more, i am coming to believe that the debt, none of the debt, our or other governments, will really be paid off.
we are in a unsustainable situation, and there is no reason to expect anything other than some form of crash and burn.
like when bob and doug mckenizie lost control of the beer truck, on icy road.
"no use steering now".
spending cuts are impossible due to unfunded entitlements.
hell, a spending freeze is impossible for the same reason.
and changing that, in a democratic system, with a greying population seems to be impossible.
hell, DISCUSSING it openly, seems to be impossible.
it seems to be an inherent flaw in the concept of the current model of the liberal nation-state, across the board.
if not worse than that. i believe that illiberal authoritarian states have similar issues, such as russia and china.
discretionary spending is not the problem. unsustainable entitlement growth is.
fraud and waste is not enough. we have pension systems that were set up when the populations were still majority freaking farmers, and based on the assumption of ever growing populations.
now, we have a declining population.
no use steering now.
Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment
Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.
There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.
Are you all going to give the money back ?
government is the one shutting down the economy.
the capitalists would all be happy to be working. some of them are literally dying from this shutdown.
it is not credible that you think this is capitalism failing. there is no way even you are that stupid.
you are lying.
You don't because you have given it to government to take care of, and now you're really screwed. LOLWe have to work towards a point of equilibrium at which we can decrease the inequities we're seeing, and still maintain the dynamic production and innovation inherent in capitalism.If capitalism can't function without a profit motive, it's hard to see how those who own the means of production will ever prioritize the welfare of their workers and society as a whole over their bottom line?It's not capitalism's fault; it's the way it has been applied
Some give, some take.
The problem is that finding that point would require intellectual honesty, sincere curiosity, communication and collaboration. It appears we no longer posses those skills and qualities.
