If capitalism works why are you all getting government handouts ?

[beagle9]

The "pandemic" caused The Government, by edict to turn off Capitalism.

Prior to pandemic - Capitalism the driving force for positive real change in the USA and the world.
During pandemic - less so.

That's it.

We have had "pandemics" for years now that has caused that. Where in Capitalism do we find the part where the government bails out business?

Bail out or helping for the purpose of keeping capitalism alive and well in the future ? Now who to help or what formula's are used is another story. Depends on the parties agenda's and long term goals. Never let a good crisis go to waste right ??

You clearly don’t know the meaning of capitalism. By definition, it doesn’t include bailouts for anyone.

You truly don't know the meaning of emergency ? Hell let's get rid of FEMA to while we are at it. lol

 

[Fang]

Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment

Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.

www.cnet.com

There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.

Are you all going to give the money back ?

Because regardless of which economic system a country runs there needs to be a safety net for extreme circumstances, like a pandemic, or citizens who run into hard times.

 

[georgephillip]

No, capitalist don't want to poison the air that they breath or the ground that they walk upon, but globalist corporation's are a horse of a different color. If a globalist corporation CEO or group holding can use somewhere in the world as their residence, otherwise to escape their poison's, then the world gets what it gets.

Are you trying to separate capitalism from corporations?
Don't they both depend on the profit motive for their existence?
The Corona virus offers another example of why profit-dependent organizations will never prioritize social need over private profit:

How Capitalism Kills During a Pandemic

"First, pharmaceutical companies could have started to develop a vaccine for the virus years ago.

"The novel coronavirus that is now ravaging the world is actually one of a family of coronaviruses (including SARS and MERS) with which we have long been familiar.

"It would have been possible to begin research on vaccines and cures for coronaviruses in general, giving us a head start on treatments for the current outbreak.

"But pharmaceutical companies did not pursue this research, because the prospect of a cure was not sufficiently profitable. (A similar problem afflicts development of new drugs to treat antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections.)"

 

[jc456]

Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment

Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.

www.cnet.com

There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.

Are you all going to give the money back ?

where do you think the money comes from?

 

[jc456]

No, capitalist don't want to poison the air that they breath or the ground that they walk upon, but globalist corporation's are a horse of a different color. If a globalist corporation CEO or group holding can use somewhere in the world as their residence, otherwise to escape their poison's, then the world gets what it gets.

Are you trying to separate capitalism from corporations?
Don't they both depend on the profit motive for their existence?
The Corona virus offers another example of why profit-dependent organizations will never prioritize social need over private profit:

How Capitalism Kills During a Pandemic

"First, pharmaceutical companies could have started to develop a vaccine for the virus years ago.

"The novel coronavirus that is now ravaging the world is actually one of a family of coronaviruses (including SARS and MERS) with which we have long been familiar.

"It would have been possible to begin research on vaccines and cures for coronaviruses in general, giving us a head start on treatments for the current outbreak.

"But pharmaceutical companies did not pursue this research, because the prospect of a cure was not sufficiently profitable. (A similar problem afflicts development of new drugs to treat antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections.)"

yeah why didn't they create one under obammy?

 

[pknopp]

It's not capitalism's fault; it's the way it has been applied

If capitalism can't function without a profit motive, it's hard to see how those who own the means of production will ever prioritize the welfare of their workers and society as a whole over their bottom line?

We have to work towards a point of equilibrium at which we can decrease the inequities we're seeing, and still maintain the dynamic production and innovation inherent in capitalism.

Some give, some take.

The problem is that finding that point would require intellectual honesty, sincere curiosity, communication and collaboration. It appears we no longer posses those skills and qualities.

You don't because you have given it to government to take care of, and now you're really screwed. LOL

Yeah, give it to the government that no longer has the American's interest or purpose as it's own. That'll do the trick.

Capitalism in America today is little more than bending over and providing for corporations over everything else.

 

[jc456]

Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment

Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.

www.cnet.com

There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.

Are you all going to give the money back ?

Is it 1850 Tommy? Also....you do know that Britain was the boss for centuries. then the went socialist and their annual growth plunged like ours. The world becomes more dangerous when there is a power vacuum. We had 2 world wars between the power vacuum of Britain and the new world leader, the United States. And both nations had a lot in common and were English speaking. Imagine when China takes over. It will be a doozy. p.s....I do believe there can be a relationship between capitalism and socialist policies. It is the percentages of each that we have to get down and realize we can not solve all problems at this point in human development.

There is no need for China to "take over". You are already a socialist nation reliant on government handouts.

/——/ No, you moron. Welfare and food stamps are hand outs. Letting people keep more of their hard earned money isn’t.

capitalism allows that money to be available.

 

[pknopp]

No, capitalist don't want to poison the air that they breath or the ground that they walk upon, but globalist corporation's are a horse of a different color. If a globalist corporation CEO or group holding can use somewhere in the world as their residence, otherwise to escape their poison's, then the world gets what it gets.

Are you trying to separate capitalism from corporations?
Don't they both depend on the profit motive for their existence?
The Corona virus offers another example of why profit-dependent organizations will never prioritize social need over private profit:

How Capitalism Kills During a Pandemic

"First, pharmaceutical companies could have started to develop a vaccine for the virus years ago.

"The novel coronavirus that is now ravaging the world is actually one of a family of coronaviruses (including SARS and MERS) with which we have long been familiar.

"It would have been possible to begin research on vaccines and cures for coronaviruses in general, giving us a head start on treatments for the current outbreak.

"But pharmaceutical companies did not pursue this research, because the prospect of a cure was not sufficiently profitable. (A similar problem afflicts development of new drugs to treat antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections.)"

yeah why didn't they create one under obammy?

Because he was every bit as much a part of the problem as anyone.

 

[jc456]

It's not capitalism's fault; it's the way it has been applied

If capitalism can't function without a profit motive, it's hard to see how those who own the means of production will ever prioritize the welfare of their workers and society as a whole over their bottom line?

We have to work towards a point of equilibrium at which we can decrease the inequities we're seeing, and still maintain the dynamic production and innovation inherent in capitalism.

Some give, some take.

The problem is that finding that point would require intellectual honesty, sincere curiosity, communication and collaboration. It appears we no longer posses those skills and qualities.

You don't because you have given it to government to take care of, and now you're really screwed. LOL

Yeah, give it to the government that no longer has the American's interest or purpose as it's own. That'll do the trick.

Capitalism in America today is little more than bending over and providing for corporations over everything else.

prove that comment.

 

[beagle9]

No, capitalist don't want to poison the air that they breath or the ground that they walk upon, but globalist corporation's are a horse of a different color. If a globalist corporation CEO or group holding can use somewhere in the world as their residence, otherwise to escape their poison's, then the world gets what it gets.

Are you trying to separate capitalism from corporations?
Don't they both depend on the profit motive for their existence?
The Corona virus offers another example of why profit-dependent organizations will never prioritize social need over private profit:

How Capitalism Kills During a Pandemic

"First, pharmaceutical companies could have started to develop a vaccine for the virus years ago.

"The novel coronavirus that is now ravaging the world is actually one of a family of coronaviruses (including SARS and MERS) with which we have long been familiar.

"It would have been possible to begin research on vaccines and cures for coronaviruses in general, giving us a head start on treatments for the current outbreak.

"But pharmaceutical companies did not pursue this research, because the prospect of a cure was not sufficiently profitable. (A similar problem afflicts development of new drugs to treat antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections.)"

As it is with anything, individual cases should be dealt with by our own standards and laws as they have stood over time. However, what we have had happen over the years is a total ignoring of our standards and laws, therefore opening up Pandora's box in the worst way's possible for the average American's who are affected here, and for the average citizen's who are affected by it elsewhere in the world.

Not sure who is totally to blame, but it all could stand to be investigated.

 

[jc456]

No, capitalist don't want to poison the air that they breath or the ground that they walk upon, but globalist corporation's are a horse of a different color. If a globalist corporation CEO or group holding can use somewhere in the world as their residence, otherwise to escape their poison's, then the world gets what it gets.

Are you trying to separate capitalism from corporations?
Don't they both depend on the profit motive for their existence?
The Corona virus offers another example of why profit-dependent organizations will never prioritize social need over private profit:

How Capitalism Kills During a Pandemic

"First, pharmaceutical companies could have started to develop a vaccine for the virus years ago.

"The novel coronavirus that is now ravaging the world is actually one of a family of coronaviruses (including SARS and MERS) with which we have long been familiar.

"It would have been possible to begin research on vaccines and cures for coronaviruses in general, giving us a head start on treatments for the current outbreak.

"But pharmaceutical companies did not pursue this research, because the prospect of a cure was not sufficiently profitable. (A similar problem afflicts development of new drugs to treat antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections.)"

yeah why didn't they create one under obammy?

Because he was every bit as much a part of the problem as anyone.

so Congress let us down?

 

[TNHarley]

Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment

Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.

www.cnet.com

There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.

Are you all going to give the money back ?

The govt shutting down the economy isnt capitalism. Capitalism had nothing to do with it.
It amazes me how people can be so condescending when they have no idea what they speak of.

 

[Billiejeens]

The "pandemic" caused The Government, by edict to turn off Capitalism.

Prior to pandemic - Capitalism the driving force for positive real change in the USA and the world.
During pandemic - less so.

That's it.

We have had "pandemics" for years now that has caused that. Where in Capitalism do we find the part where the government bails out business?

Bail out or helping for the purpose of keeping capitalism alive and well in the future ? Now who to help or what formula's are used is another story. Depends on the parties agenda's and long term goals. Never let a good crisis go to waste right ??

You clearly don’t know the meaning of capitalism. By definition, it doesn’t include bailouts for anyone.

In the strictest sense - of course not, and that's a problem of Government, not of Capitalism.

Currently, Capitalism does not include the Government mandate to be shut down either.

Money only does something when it moves - moving money is important now.

 

[beagle9]

It's not capitalism's fault; it's the way it has been applied

If capitalism can't function without a profit motive, it's hard to see how those who own the means of production will ever prioritize the welfare of their workers and society as a whole over their bottom line?

We have to work towards a point of equilibrium at which we can decrease the inequities we're seeing, and still maintain the dynamic production and innovation inherent in capitalism.

Some give, some take.

The problem is that finding that point would require intellectual honesty, sincere curiosity, communication and collaboration. It appears we no longer posses those skills and qualities.

You don't because you have given it to government to take care of, and now you're really screwed. LOL

Yeah, give it to the government that no longer has the American's interest or purpose as it's own. That'll do the trick.

Capitalism in America today is little more than bending over and providing for corporations over everything else.

And it's getting worse I'm afraid.

 

[jc456]

No, capitalist don't want to poison the air that they breath or the ground that they walk upon, but globalist corporation's are a horse of a different color. If a globalist corporation CEO or group holding can use somewhere in the world as their residence, otherwise to escape their poison's, then the world gets what it gets.

Are you trying to separate capitalism from corporations?
Don't they both depend on the profit motive for their existence?
The Corona virus offers another example of why profit-dependent organizations will never prioritize social need over private profit:

How Capitalism Kills During a Pandemic

"First, pharmaceutical companies could have started to develop a vaccine for the virus years ago.

"The novel coronavirus that is now ravaging the world is actually one of a family of coronaviruses (including SARS and MERS) with which we have long been familiar.

"It would have been possible to begin research on vaccines and cures for coronaviruses in general, giving us a head start on treatments for the current outbreak.

"But pharmaceutical companies did not pursue this research, because the prospect of a cure was not sufficiently profitable. (A similar problem afflicts development of new drugs to treat antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections.)"

As it is with anything, individual cases should be dealt with by our own standards and laws as they have stood over time. However, what we have had happen over the years is a total ignoring of our standards and laws, therefore opening up Pandora's box in the worst way's possible for the average American's who are affected here, and for the average citizen's who are affected by it elsewhere in the world.

Not sure who is totally to blame, but it all could stand to be investigated.

again, hand outs come from the politicians in Congress who see all the money a person and company makes and wants more to satisfy their dictatorist behavior.

 

[beagle9]

It's not capitalism's fault; it's the way it has been applied

If capitalism can't function without a profit motive, it's hard to see how those who own the means of production will ever prioritize the welfare of their workers and society as a whole over their bottom line?

We have to work towards a point of equilibrium at which we can decrease the inequities we're seeing, and still maintain the dynamic production and innovation inherent in capitalism.

Some give, some take.

The problem is that finding that point would require intellectual honesty, sincere curiosity, communication and collaboration. It appears we no longer posses those skills and qualities.

You don't because you have given it to government to take care of, and now you're really screwed. LOL

Yeah, give it to the government that no longer has the American's interest or purpose as it's own. That'll do the trick.

Capitalism in America today is little more than bending over and providing for corporations over everything else.

prove that comment.

Have to take in the whole globalist world view and operations to do it.

 

[georgephillip]

The extraction of God from the equation by leftist communist is what has caused the problems you now decry, but of course you knew that but won't admit it

Can you point out god in this equation?

Profit Percentage Formula | Examples With Excel Template

I think you're making a huge mistake if you believe the most successful capitalists have NOT made money their god.

 

[beagle9]

No, capitalist don't want to poison the air that they breath or the ground that they walk upon, but globalist corporation's are a horse of a different color. If a globalist corporation CEO or group holding can use somewhere in the world as their residence, otherwise to escape their poison's, then the world gets what it gets.

Are you trying to separate capitalism from corporations?
Don't they both depend on the profit motive for their existence?
The Corona virus offers another example of why profit-dependent organizations will never prioritize social need over private profit:

How Capitalism Kills During a Pandemic

"First, pharmaceutical companies could have started to develop a vaccine for the virus years ago.

"The novel coronavirus that is now ravaging the world is actually one of a family of coronaviruses (including SARS and MERS) with which we have long been familiar.

"It would have been possible to begin research on vaccines and cures for coronaviruses in general, giving us a head start on treatments for the current outbreak.

"But pharmaceutical companies did not pursue this research, because the prospect of a cure was not sufficiently profitable. (A similar problem afflicts development of new drugs to treat antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections.)"

As it is with anything, individual cases should be dealt with by our own standards and laws as they have stood over time. However, what we have had happen over the years is a total ignoring of our standards and laws, therefore opening up Pandora's box in the worst way's possible for the average American's who are affected here, and for the average citizen's who are affected by it elsewhere in the world.

Not sure who is totally to blame, but it all could stand to be investigated.

again, hand outs come from the politicians in Congress who see all the money a person and company makes and wants more to satisfy their dictatorist behavior.

That too.

 

[hadit]

Stimulus check money: You and your family may get $1,200 or more with another relief payment

Here's how much to expect if the IRS sends out an additional round of stimulus checks in 2020.

www.cnet.com

There seem to be double standards at work here. I do think that it is the role of government to help out when capitalism fails but so many of my fellow posters seem to be happy decrying "Venezuela" whilst gorging themselves on the government teat.

Are you all going to give the money back ?

You do not understand. Every dollar that the government spends comes from us in the first place. Any stimulus money that comes our way is us merely getting back a very little bit of what was first taken from us. What, did you think government somehow earns money?

 

[beagle9]

The extraction of God from the equation by leftist communist is what has caused the problems you now decry, but of course you knew that but won't admit it

Can you point out god in this equation?

Profit Percentage Formula | Examples With Excel Template

I think you're making a huge mistake if you believe the most successful capitalists have NOT made money their god.

Yes, their god with a little g, but this was caused by abandoning God with the big G.