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They're as bad as Establ Repub- supporters
If Bernie endorses Clinton, he betrays his supporters
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So she had more votes, but the Establishment selected Obama, right?
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I don't know if Valerie will be back to ask about the 2008 campaign and what happened to Hillary back then, and I have to leave soon, so I will leave this post in the eventuality anyone who doesn't understand that would like to know what happened.
I will use an analogy.
Team A and Team B play 7 baseball games against each other.
In the first game, Team A scores 54 runs and Team B scored 25. Team A wins the game.
In the second game, Team A scores 35 runs and Team B scores 15. Team A wins again.
Third game: Team A scored 2 runs, Team B scores 4 runs. Team B wins.
Fourth game: Team A scores 14 runs, Team B scores 18. Team B wins.
Fifth game: Team A scores 5, Team B scores 7. Team B wins.
Sixth game: Team A scores 8, Team B scores 12. Tream B wins.
Seventh game: Team A scores 2, Team B scored 3. Team B wins.
In seven games, Team A scored 120 runs. Team B scored 84 runs.
Team A scored more runs, but Team B won 5 out of 7 games.
Just so with Clinton and Obama. Clinton won in two really populous states (California and New York) that had a lot of voters in each state. But she won far fewer states than Obama.
And that is how Clinton had more votes but a lot less delegates than Obama. A lot of her votes were from the two really big states in which she won.
You don't want New York and California always deciding who a nominee is going to be, do you?
I will use an analogy.
Team A and Team B play 7 baseball games against each other.
In the first game, Team A scores 54 runs and Team B scored 25. Team A wins the game.
In the second game, Team A scores 35 runs and Team B scores 15. Team A wins again.
Third game: Team A scored 2 runs, Team B scores 4 runs. Team B wins.
Fourth game: Team A scores 14 runs, Team B scores 18. Team B wins.
Fifth game: Team A scores 5, Team B scores 7. Team B wins.
Sixth game: Team A scores 8, Team B scores 12. Tream B wins.
Seventh game: Team A scores 2, Team B scored 3. Team B wins.
In seven games, Team A scored 120 runs. Team B scored 84 runs.
Team A scored more runs, but Team B won 5 out of 7 games.
Just so with Clinton and Obama. Clinton won in two really populous states (California and New York) that had a lot of voters in each state. But she won far fewer states than Obama.
And that is how Clinton had more votes but a lot less delegates than Obama. A lot of her votes were from the two really big states in which she won.
You don't want New York and California always deciding who a nominee is going to be, do you?
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Wrong. See post 43.
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She, like Jillian, won't be back because they are Dem party drones AND, more than likely, are voting for her because she is also female and they want to see a female Pres. in their lifetime no matter how corrupt she is (HRC) Sniper Fire
Broke when we left the WH Wearing sunglasses to a committee hearing about her Benghazi activities Paid (WELL) Goldman speeches etc, etc....
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ACTUAL individual votes cast in 2008:
2008 Democratic Popular Vote | RealClearPolitics
Obama 17,535,458
Clinton 17,822,145
2008 Democratic Popular Vote | RealClearPolitics
Obama 17,535,458
Clinton 17,822,145
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So you are a willfully stupid person. Check. I've often said you rubes have the intellectual capacity of a bumper sticker. I guess that's why you swallow the manufactured bullshit fed to you in bite sized morsels by your favorite propaganda outlets.
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thats why I was going to sit this one out until Bernie jumped into the fray.
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A lot of Bernie supporters weren't going to vote, even if Bernie was the nominee. Most of Bernie's supporters are young and/or lower income, and those people don't vote.
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people who parrot the "hillary is evil" talking point are so ridiculous.
hillary is an incredibly accomplished leader who political hacks have demonized as if she is "evil".
for decades hillary haters have pounded her reputation with shameless lies about her record.
those who claim "she'll say anything to get elected" simply just aren't paying attention.
when uninformed people parrot, that's one thing...
but when the hater hacks who know better blatantly lie about her record, they aren't "evil" at all.
right? riiiiight.
hillary is an incredibly accomplished leader who political hacks have demonized as if she is "evil".
for decades hillary haters have pounded her reputation with shameless lies about her record.
those who claim "she'll say anything to get elected" simply just aren't paying attention.
when uninformed people parrot, that's one thing...
but when the hater hacks who know better blatantly lie about her record, they aren't "evil" at all.
right? riiiiight.
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Praise for Hillary Clinton
PRAISE FROM:
REPUBLICANS
DEMOCRATS
FOREIGN LEADERS
FAMOUS PEOPLE
PRESS
EXPERTS
BUSINESS LEADERS
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That has been my plan as well.
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Bernie Sanders: 'Maybe I shouldn't say this: I like Hillary Clinton'
Bernie Sanders, the independent Vermont senator who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination on 2016, on Sunday denied that he would be a “spoiler” for the electoral chances of the establishment favourite and said: “Maybe I shouldn’t say this: I like Hillary Clinton.”
Sanders also asked if the media would “allow us to have a serious debate”, and said: “Or is the only way you get media attention by ripping apart somebody else?”
Sanders, a self-declared “democratic socialist” who has repeatedly championed social reform on a Scandinavian model and attacked the influence and behaviour of the wealthiest sections of society, appeared on CNN. He was asked how he differed from Clinton on income inequality, a key issue in both campaigns so far.
“It’s one thing to talk about it, it’s one thing to act on it,” Sanders said.
“I’ve never run a negative political ad in my life,” Sanders said. “…I believe in serious debates on serious issues. I’ve known Hillary Clinton for 25 years. Maybe I shouldn’t say this: I like Hillary Clinton. I respect Hillary Clinton."
“Will the media, among others, allow us to have a civil debate on civil issues? Or is the only way you get media attention by ripping apart somebody else?”
Bernie Sanders: 'Maybe I shouldn't say this: I like Hillary Clinton'
Bernie Sanders, the independent Vermont senator who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination on 2016, on Sunday denied that he would be a “spoiler” for the electoral chances of the establishment favourite and said: “Maybe I shouldn’t say this: I like Hillary Clinton.”
Sanders also asked if the media would “allow us to have a serious debate”, and said: “Or is the only way you get media attention by ripping apart somebody else?”
Sanders, a self-declared “democratic socialist” who has repeatedly championed social reform on a Scandinavian model and attacked the influence and behaviour of the wealthiest sections of society, appeared on CNN. He was asked how he differed from Clinton on income inequality, a key issue in both campaigns so far.
“It’s one thing to talk about it, it’s one thing to act on it,” Sanders said.
“I’ve never run a negative political ad in my life,” Sanders said. “…I believe in serious debates on serious issues. I’ve known Hillary Clinton for 25 years. Maybe I shouldn’t say this: I like Hillary Clinton. I respect Hillary Clinton."
“Will the media, among others, allow us to have a civil debate on civil issues? Or is the only way you get media attention by ripping apart somebody else?”
Bernie Sanders: 'Maybe I shouldn't say this: I like Hillary Clinton'
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