Ray From Cleveland
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It’s bewildering to me how you can just pretend the economy wasn’t already doing well under Obama. He presided over the longer stretch of job growth in history. You people used to whine about the labor participation rate and GDP under Obama but how you pretend both aren’t still low under Trump.I honestly don’t think it would take much at all. Republican voters are easily manipulated and swayed. Right before Trump became the nominee for the Republican Party for the 2016 election, for instance, his approval rating among republicans was like hovering under 50%. What happened when Trump became the nominee? His approval rating shot up to 80%-90% over night. That’s how tribal republicans are. We all know how much they hated Hillary, so that by itself was enough for them to pretend Trump was the shit all along.
Even after an unprecedented embarrassing 3 years in office, republicans are still in denial about how corrupt, childish, and utterly moronic Trump is. They deny it simply because they hate democrats. They also can’t stand the thought of losing or looking weak, so they pretend their side is perfect. There’s a reason why republicans generally don’t have the balls to openly criticize Trump for ANYTHING of substance.
Now let’s pretend a republican ran against Trump for this upcoming election. Republicans would drop Trump in a heartbeat if had the following traits:
1) He is just as hardcore about immigration as Trump but would likely be smart enough to understand a goddamn wall won’t stop illegal immigration.
2) He whines about democratic government overreach (while conveniently omitting any GOP examples of the same).
3) He thinks taxes suck!
4) He’s a charismatic figure. He knows how to give a good speech.
That about covers it. Republican voters would flock to him.
Despite what republicans like to pretend, there would he no need for him to be an “outsider” like Trump was. The man could have been in office for a couple of decades. Republicans would just pretend being an “outsider” wasn’t all that important to begin with.
imagine if they liked him enough and he had a couple of safe leftwing viewpoints like mitigating climate change effects, investing in infrastructure, and raising the minimum wage to something safe and low like $10 per hour. The republican base would do a complete 180 on all of those positions lol.
Hmmm, I do racal a couple of Republicans making claim they would run against him. Haven't heard from them since.
During Trump's election, there were a lot of disgruntled Republicans that either didn't vote, or voted for Hillary. Now that the results are in, I would think those anti-Trump people are now pro-Trump. Lowest unemployment in 50 years, a decreasing amount of government dependents, more jobs than Americans to fill them, no more weirdos in your daughters dressing or bathrooms in school, no more commie care fines, most Americans getting a tax decrease. What's to vote against?
On the other hand, your candidates are such a disgrace that even Hillary is hinting on getting back in. And Hillary was the bottom of the barrel you gave us last time.
Here’s what it boils down to: Obama inherited the worst recession since WWII and saw it end 6 months into his presidency. Trump inherited a string of job growth. Facts are what they are.
Oh, so it's facts you like? How about the fact that DumBama was the most anti-business President in our lifetime. He didn't make any polices that were favorable to businesses. Any policy he made was a detriment to business and not a help.
What you are doing is giving credit to a guy who did nothing, and fail to understand it was the feds pouring trillions of dollars into the stock market that actually did something. Even then, the jobs created were low pay or part-time. The economy was at a near standstill for eight years.
A real economy only gets going when people have money to spend. The only way people had more money under DumBama was the drastic decrease in fuel prices, and that had nothing to do with him, it had to do with fracking, something DumBama and Democrats are against.
The Trump Manufacturing Jobs Boom: 10 Times Obama's Over 21 Months
Barry DID do some things as president. He somehow made race relations between blacks and whites WORSE. He succeeded in making more blacks absolutely HATE the police. I could go on and on. He was a total failure as president.
Agreed, and because he sat on his hands before Ferguson; even fanned the flames a bit, our violent and gun crime increased for the first time since the early 90's. Prior to that it was on a consistent decrease.
The only time he stuck his nose into local issues is when it was between a black and a non-black, and he certainly never took the side of the non-black. It was always something like "the officer acted stupidly" or "If I had a son, he would have looked just like Travon!"