ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!

[Frankenstein]

The OP is NoT about them staying here but about Trump following the Constitution and the lew. There are a lot of lasa that he is breaking. This is not about me defendí the illegals, it is about me trying to show that if we are not faithful to our laws, we all lose. Jeezus, can’t you people even read and comprehend what is being said?

Yes you prefer illegals to Americans

 

[teddyearp]

The OP is NoT about them staying here but about Trump following the Constitution and the lew. There are a lot of lasa that he is breaking. This is not about me defendí the illegals, it is about me trying to show that if we are not faithful to our laws, we all lose. Jeezus, can’t you people even read and comprehend what is being said?

Guess you can't read. The op is about more 'innocent people than criminals'; the title YOU gave it. Then your post is AI generated. Then you defect away from that every time someone points out how and where you are wrong.

Then you cry because you want the laws to say something they do not because you can't read them.

You're a waste of time.

 

[Luckyone]

Guess you can't read. The op is about more 'innocent people than criminals'; the title YOU gave it. Then your post is AI generated. Then you defect away from that every time someone points out how and where you are wrong.

Then you cry because you want the laws to say something they do not because you can't read them.

You're a waste of time.

I did not give it that title. It was an article that was written about it that gave it the title.

The link itself clearly stated that only 8% of those deported has ever been guilty of a "Serious" crime.

Entering the U.S. is a crime but it is considered misdemeanor more than a crime.

Yes, entering the U.S. illegally is a crime. Specifically, it is a misdemeanor offense under 8 U.S.C. § 1325, which covers "Improper entry by an alien".

Trump is treating all of them as serious criminals and that means he is breaking the 4th and 5th amendment, because under those amendments, those people that have not been found to be guilty of a serious crime, do have rights and Trump is ignoring those laws.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

He who has an ear, let him hear.

The rest of you deaf, blind magats can go F...Y...

Immigration agents told a teenage US citizen: ‘You’ve got no rights.’ He secretly recorded his brutal arrest

Video from Kenny Laynez-Ambrosio, 18, puts fresh scrutiny on the harsh tactics used to reach the Trump administration’s ambitious enforcement targets

www.theguardian.com

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Kann ich bitte Ihre Papiere sehen?​

 

[WEATHER53]

Lib loons feel arrest and imprisonment should be kushy

 

[teddyearp]

I did not give it that title. It was an article that was written about it that gave it the title.

The link itself clearly stated that only 8% of those deported has ever been guilty of a "Serious" crime.

Entering the U.S. is a crime but it is considered misdemeanor more than a crime.

Yes, entering the U.S. illegally is a crime. Specifically, it is a misdemeanor offense under 8 U.S.C. § 1325, which covers "Improper entry by an alien".

Trump is treating all of them as serious criminals and that means he is breaking the 4th and 5th amendment, because under those amendments, those people that have not been found to be guilty of a serious crime, do have rights and Trump is ignoring those laws.

Ok. You created this thread. You are the one who gives it a title. Whether you copied it from somewhere else or not. Period. Are you being obtuse on purpose?

Now, for the fourth and fifth amendments.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

The fifth dictates an indictment for serious crimes, yes, but doesnt apply as you state. Otherwise nobody could be arrested for misdemeanors.

An illegal alien is committing a misdemeanor in an officers presence, therefore subject to arrest.

You make as much sense in your knowledge as Justice Jackson, who also doesn't know the laws nor constitution.

 

[teddyearp]

He who has an ear, let him hear.

The rest of you deaf, blind magats can go F...Y...

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Immigration agents told a teenage US citizen: ‘You’ve got no rights.’ He secretly recorded his brutal arrest

Video from Kenny Laynez-Ambrosio, 18, puts fresh scrutiny on the harsh tactics used to reach the Trump administration’s ambitious enforcement targets

www.theguardian.com

Sorry children, but back in my day when cops pull you over, you comply. If they decide to arrest you, the time to debate it is NOT then. It is in court. That's how it's always been in all my personal encounters with the police and yes, getting arrested. I've been to jail and prison. So sorry children that you've been taught by irresponsible TicTok influencers that somehow the time to debate your case is during your arrest and that you should resist and fight the arrest right then.

Don't work that way! Never had. Never will

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Sorry children, but back in my day when cops pull you over, you comply. If they decide to arrest you, the time to debate it is NOT then. It is in court. That's how it's always been in all my personal encounters with the police and yes, getting arrested. I've been to jail and prison. So sorry children that you've been taught by irresponsible TicTok influencers that somehow the time to debate your case is during your arrest and that you should resist and fight the arrest right then.

Don't work that way! Never had. Never will

Yes I bet you have been arrested and then pardoned.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

If they decide to arrest you, the time to debate it is NOT then. It is in court. That's how it's always been in all my personal encounters with the police and yes, getting arrested.

Indeed which is why Mahmoud Khalil is suing he bastards for 20 million bucks.

Now run along you deadbeat and have a nice day.

 

[teddyearp]

Yes I bet you have been arrested and then pardoned.

Nope. I did my time. And I got separated from my family every time too.

I noticed you don't argue the main point I made. Kenny did commit a crime.

Go cry your ******* river somewhere else children.

 

[Luckyone]

Ok. You created this thread. You are the one who gives it a title. Whether you copied it from somewhere else or not. Period. Are you being obtuse on purpose?

Now, for the fourth and fifth amendments.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

The fifth dictates an indictment for serious crimes, yes, but doesnt apply as you state. Otherwise nobody could be arrested for misdemeanors.

An illegal alien is committing a misdemeanor in an officers presence, therefore subject to arrest.

You make as much sense in your knowledge as Justice Jackson, who also doesn't know the laws nor constitution.

According to the rules here on this board, one can put the title of an article as the title of an OP, with the condition that a link to the article (and the title is exactly as the article says) are enclosed.

as far as the rest of your reply, here is the answer:

AI Overview

Concerns have been raised regarding whether the Trump administration's actions and policies relating to undocumented immigrants violate the Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the US Constitution
.
Fifth Amendment (Due Process)

• Due Process Rights: The Fifth Amendment guarantees that no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". The Supreme Court has consistently held that this applies to all individuals in the United States, regardless of their immigration status.
• Trump Administration Policies:
  • Expedited Removal: The Trump administration expanded the use of expedited removal, which allows for the rapid deportation of certain immigrants without a hearing in immigration court. Critics argue this bypasses crucial due process protections, despite the Supreme Court ruling that immigrants must have the chance to challenge their deportation, according to Al Jazeera and PolitiFact.
  • Alien Enemies Act: The Trump administration invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport individuals accused of gang membership without immigration court hearings. The Supreme Court ruled against the administration, holding that immigrants must receive notice and a reasonable time to challenge deportation under the Act.
  • Access to Legal Counsel: The administration limited access to legal representation for immigrants in deportation proceedings, which are civil rather than criminal cases and do not automatically provide a right to government-funded legal counsel, according to PBS. Critics argue this makes it harder for non-citizens to defend themselves in court.
  • Fines: The administration introduced a new system that allowed immigration officers to impose hefty fines on undocumented immigrants, with limited opportunities for appeal, according to the American Immigration Council.
  • Registry Trap: The administration increased criminal prosecutions for unauthorized entry and reentry, which served as the basis for the "zero tolerance" family separation policy. Critics argue these policies undermine due process and asylum rights, according to the National Immigration Law Center.

Fourth Amendment (Search and Seizure)

• Right Against Unreasonable Search and Seizure: The Fourth Amendment protects individuals from unreasonable searches and seizures.
• Trump Administration Policies:
  • Expanded Border Searches: The Trump administration broadened the definition of the border, allowing for searches and seizures in a 100-mile wide "extended border" zone without a warrant if agents have reasonable suspicion of unlawful activity.
  • ICE Tactics: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been criticized for using deceptive tactics, such as posing as probation officers or construction workers, to gain access to individuals' homes and arrest undocumented immigrants, according to the American Civil Liberties Union. Critics argue these tactics violate Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.

Note: Many of the Trump administration's immigration policies faced legal challenges and were subject to judicial review, and some were overturned or modified by courts, including the Supreme Court.

 

[teddyearp]

According to the rules here on this board, one can put the title of an article as the title of an OP, with the condition that a link to the article (and the title is exactly as the article says) are enclosed.

as far as the rest of your reply, here is the answer:

AI Overview

Concerns have been raised regarding whether the Trump administration's actions and policies relating to undocumented immigrants violate the Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the US Constitution
.
Fifth Amendment (Due Process)

• Due Process Rights: The Fifth Amendment guarantees that no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". The Supreme Court has consistently held that this applies to all individuals in the United States, regardless of their immigration status.
• Trump Administration Policies:
  • Expedited Removal: The Trump administration expanded the use of expedited removal, which allows for the rapid deportation of certain immigrants without a hearing in immigration court. Critics argue this bypasses crucial due process protections, despite the Supreme Court ruling that immigrants must have the chance to challenge their deportation, according to Al Jazeera and PolitiFact.
  • Alien Enemies Act: The Trump administration invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport individuals accused of gang membership without immigration court hearings. The Supreme Court ruled against the administration, holding that immigrants must receive notice and a reasonable time to challenge deportation under the Act.
  • Access to Legal Counsel: The administration limited access to legal representation for immigrants in deportation proceedings, which are civil rather than criminal cases and do not automatically provide a right to government-funded legal counsel, according to PBS. Critics argue this makes it harder for non-citizens to defend themselves in court.
  • Fines: The administration introduced a new system that allowed immigration officers to impose hefty fines on undocumented immigrants, with limited opportunities for appeal, according to the American Immigration Council.
  • Registry Trap: The administration increased criminal prosecutions for unauthorized entry and reentry, which served as the basis for the "zero tolerance" family separation policy. Critics argue these policies undermine due process and asylum rights, according to the National Immigration Law Center.

Fourth Amendment (Search and Seizure)

• Right Against Unreasonable Search and Seizure: The Fourth Amendment protects individuals from unreasonable searches and seizures.
• Trump Administration Policies:
  • Expanded Border Searches: The Trump administration broadened the definition of the border, allowing for searches and seizures in a 100-mile wide "extended border" zone without a warrant if agents have reasonable suspicion of unlawful activity.
  • ICE Tactics: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been criticized for using deceptive tactics, such as posing as probation officers or construction workers, to gain access to individuals' homes and arrest undocumented immigrants, according to the American Civil Liberties Union. Critics argue these tactics violate Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.

Note: Many of the Trump administration's immigration policies faced legal challenges and were subject to judicial review, and some were overturned or modified by courts, including the Supreme Court.

All right. So you're going in a circle over what your own threads title says, then you use AI to compose your answer? Nope. You're just another troll with no substance and no honesty.

Bye bye.

 

[WEATHER53]

According to the rules here on this board, one can put the title of an article as the title of an OP, with the condition that a link to the article (and the title is exactly as the article says) are enclosed.

as far as the rest of your reply, here is the answer:

AI Overview

Concerns have been raised regarding whether the Trump administration's actions and policies relating to undocumented immigrants violate the Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the US Constitution
.
Fifth Amendment (Due Process)

• Due Process Rights: The Fifth Amendment guarantees that no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". The Supreme Court has consistently held that this applies to all individuals in the United States, regardless of their immigration status.
• Trump Administration Policies:
  • Expedited Removal: The Trump administration expanded the use of expedited removal, which allows for the rapid deportation of certain immigrants without a hearing in immigration court. Critics argue this bypasses crucial due process protections, despite the Supreme Court ruling that immigrants must have the chance to challenge their deportation, according to Al Jazeera and PolitiFact.
  • Alien Enemies Act: The Trump administration invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport individuals accused of gang membership without immigration court hearings. The Supreme Court ruled against the administration, holding that immigrants must receive notice and a reasonable time to challenge deportation under the Act.
  • Access to Legal Counsel: The administration limited access to legal representation for immigrants in deportation proceedings, which are civil rather than criminal cases and do not automatically provide a right to government-funded legal counsel, according to PBS. Critics argue this makes it harder for non-citizens to defend themselves in court.
  • Fines: The administration introduced a new system that allowed immigration officers to impose hefty fines on undocumented immigrants, with limited opportunities for appeal, according to the American Immigration Council.
  • Registry Trap: The administration increased criminal prosecutions for unauthorized entry and reentry, which served as the basis for the "zero tolerance" family separation policy. Critics argue these policies undermine due process and asylum rights, according to the National Immigration Law Center.

Fourth Amendment (Search and Seizure)

• Right Against Unreasonable Search and Seizure: The Fourth Amendment protects individuals from unreasonable searches and seizures.
• Trump Administration Policies:
  • Expanded Border Searches: The Trump administration broadened the definition of the border, allowing for searches and seizures in a 100-mile wide "extended border" zone without a warrant if agents have reasonable suspicion of unlawful activity.
  • ICE Tactics: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been criticized for using deceptive tactics, such as posing as probation officers or construction workers, to gain access to individuals' homes and arrest undocumented immigrants, according to the American Civil Liberties Union. Critics argue these tactics violate Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.

Note: Many of the Trump administration's immigration policies faced legal challenges and were subject to judicial review, and some were overturned or modified by courts, including the Supreme Court.

Seen it all before
“Persons of” the USA which they Are Not
Founders were not writing for nor about Mexicans.
Stop lying

 

[teddyearp]

Seen it all before
“Persons of” the USA which they Are Not
Founders were not writing for nor about Mexicans.
Stop lying

I blew past the AI last time. But it's really ******* funny to see the sources the AI quoted. According to: Al Jazeera, Politico, PBS, ACLU. Hell should have quoted the SPLC to round out to obvious bias of that response.

Although I quoted your post, I'm mainly commenting on the post you quoted, sorry if any confusion.

 

[Luckyone]

All right. So you're going in a circle over what your own threads title says, then you use AI to compose your answer? Nope. You're just another troll with no substance and no honesty.

Bye bye.

You are entitled to your opinion but the facts do not support you.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

AI Overview

In fiscal year 2025 (starting October 1, 2024), ICE has arrested a significant number of individuals with no criminal convictions. Data from June indicates that 65% of the over 204,000 people booked into detention had no criminal convictions, according to the Cato Institute. Furthermore, over 93% of those detained had no history of violent offenses, according to the American Immigration Council.

Human and legal rights are being thrown out the window by the Trump administration.

AI Overview

Based on recent news reports and statements from civil rights and human rights organizations, there are concerns and allegations regarding the Trump administration's approach to human and legal rights in 2025. These include:

• Immigration Enforcement: The administration has been accused of adopting policies that disregard due process for immigrants and asylum seekers, including expanding immigration enforcement to target foreign nationals, particularly students and researchers, attempting to end birthright citizenship via executive order, and carrying out mass deportations and raids. A former Department of Justice lawyer, Erez Reuveni, has also accused the Trump administration of ignoring court rulings and pressuring attorneys to prioritize the President's agenda over ethical obligations in deportation cases.
• • Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI): The administration has moved to terminate grants related to DEI programs and prohibit federally-funded entities from engaging in such initiatives, prompting legal challenges.
  • Housing Discrimination: The Department of Housing and Urban Development is reportedly preparing to shut down investigations into housing discrimination and segregation cases.
  • Education: There are concerns about the Trump administration's dismantling of the Education Department's civil rights division and attacks on academic freedom and free expression at universities.
• Targeting of Critics:
  • Law Firms: Some law firms have been targeted with executive orders, facing sanctions like revoked security clearances and restricted access to federal buildings, for their pro bono work or associations with investigations involving President Trump.
  • Media and NGOs: There are concerns about undermining press freedom and the critical role of independent media. The administration has also cut funding to organizations supporting human rights defenders and independent journalists.

Is losing your rights to freedom and justice something that you want? If by any chance, you personally (or a member of your family) get arrested and thrown in jail (or worse, deported) without any chance of defending yourself, would you still be a Trump supporter?

By the way and for all of you that accuse these OP's as being TDS, may I remind you that Trump is doing things that no other U.S. president has done? He is changing the U.S. in ways that are against what our Constitution was built on. Do you honestly think that it should be ignored and Trump allowed to do it, without trying to change it (to the nth degree)?

Coming to this country illegally is a crime. I know that is a hard concept for the knuckle dragging base of the Democratic party.

 

[Couchpotato]

The OP is NoT about them staying here but about Trump following the Constitution and the law.

Deporting illegal aliens is the law. I know that's hard for you to grasp but that doesnt change the law.

There are a lot of lawa that he is breaking. This is not about me defendíng the illegals, it is about me trying to show that if we are not faithful to our laws, we all lose. Jeezus, can’t you people even read and comprehend what is being said?

Which ones? Be specific about which statutes Trump is breaking. Not "individual ICE agents doing X, Y or Z outside of policy and procedure which violates the law" but specific policy and procedures which the current administration has put into place that breaks the law.

We both know you'll either post some gibberish which doesn't cite specific statutes or will just ignore this post though don't we....

 

[teddyearp]

Gotta admit. This thread is ludicrous.

The OP is written by AI, then when the constitution is literally quoted in a reply, the poster uses AI again to reply.

What? Can't read? No, it's the comprehension skills you lack. Badly.

 

[teddyearp]

Deporting illegal aliens is the law. I know that's hard for you to grasp but that doesnt change the law.


Which ones? Be specific about which statutes Trump is breaking. Not "individual ICE agents doing X, Y or Z outside of policy and procedure which violates the law" but specific policy and procedures which the current administration has put into place that breaks the law.

We both know you'll either post some gibberish which doesn't cite specific statutes or will just ignore this post though don't we....

The reply will be written by AI sorced from Al Jazeera and PBS. Again.

This poster is a bot.