ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!

[Man With A Plan]

Since you know, then be a good teacher and teach me a lesson. You guys are trying to do that every day, so why are you not being faithful to doing that (as Trump is doing every day)?

We need to teach you? Seriously?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Since you know, then be a good teacher and teach me a lesson. You guys are trying to do that every day, so why are you not being faithful to doing that (as Trump is doing every day)?

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1101&num=0&edition=prelim

 

[Nostra]

I am talking reality and not fantasy. What presently exists and what the Constitution and the existing laws say about what can be done.

A law presently exists that makes 100% if them criminals, Dumbass.

 

[Nostra]

So none of the magats have a clue how permanent residency is revoked, don't have a clue what immigration law the long time green card holder has violated, and don't have a clue what actual rights a green card holder has, yet post their tripe here like they're experts.

Let me educate you, oh ignorant one……


AI Overview

A permanent resident's status can be revoked through a formal legal process, not unilaterally by the government. The process involves a Notice of Intent to Rescind (NOIR) and a hearing before an immigration judge, who ultimately decides whether to strip the individual of their green card. Reasons for revocation include fraud, criminal activity, or failure to maintain continuous residence.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
1. Grounds for Revocation:

• Fraud or Misrepresentation:
  Providing false information or documents during the green card application process, or engaging in a marriage of convenience, can lead to revocation.
  
  
• • Criminal Activity:
    Conviction of certain crimes, particularly those involving moral turpitude, can trigger revocation proceedings.
    
  • Failure to Maintain Continuous Residence:
    Extended absences from the U.S. without proper authorization can be grounds for revocation.
    
  • Violation of Immigration Laws:
    Failing to maintain lawful status or committing other immigration violations can also lead to revocation.
    
  • Becoming a Public Charge:
    If a green card holder becomes reliant on public assistance and is deemed a public charge, their status may be reviewed.
    

2. The Process:

• • Notice of Intent to Rescind (NOIR): USCIS must serve a NOIR within 5 years of the adjustment of status date (with certain exceptions).
    
  • Immigration Court Hearing: The individual has the right to a hearing before an immigration judge, where the government must prove, by clear, unequivocal, and convincing evidence, that the person was ineligible for LPR status or violated the terms of their residency.
    
  • Immigration Judge's Decision: The immigration judge is the only one who can revoke a green card.
    

3. Surrendering Your Green Card:

• • Form I-407:
    Lawful permanent residents can voluntarily surrender their green card by filing Form I-407, Record of Abandonment of Lawful Permanent Resident Status.
  • Tax Implications:
    Surrendering a green card can have tax implications, including expatriation tax.
    

4. Importance of Legal Counsel:

• • If you are facing revocation proceedings or considering surrendering your green card, it is crucial to seek legal advice from an experienced immigration

 

[Nostra]

show me that law!

Holy shit you are stupid. Do you really think we don’t have immigration laws?

Moron.

 

[Nostra]

Yet another Unlickyone thread fail.’’

 

[Luckyone]

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1101&num=0&edition=prelim

What a load of total BS you provide.

I asked for a document where it gave the President the right to deport anyone without having to follow the Constitutional Guidelines (and the laws in place) and what you sent has nothing that supports your statement.

I read the entire thing and there is not one single reference that supports your statement.

Here is a copy of one of the articles in what you sent, to show you that I read the whole thing. This article that I am providing below actually supports my statement and makes yours total BS.

A.​

The Department of Justice, in consultation with other relevant agencies, shall develop a streamlined, fair, and effective procedure to expedite removal of deportable aliens. As necessary, additional legislative authority will be sought in this area. In addition, the Department of Justice shall increase its capacity to staff deportation and exclusion hearings to support these objectives.

Here is the actual law:

• Due Process in General:
  • The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution guarantee due process to all "persons" within U.S. borders, regardless of immigration status.
  • Due process generally means the government must provide appropriate notice of a government action and an opportunity for a fair hearing before depriving someone of life, liberty, or property.
  • The Supreme Court has consistently upheld that non-citizens, including those without legal status, have due process rights in deportation proceedings.

You are arriving in an area where communicating with you is a total waste of time. You have no interest in the truth. You are just interested in kissing Trump's ass and supporting Dictator's approach to what YOU want.

The Constitution be damned, right?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

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DURR

So we agree, what took you so long?

 

[Mac-7]

What a load of total BS you provide.

I asked for a document where it gave the President the right to deport anyone without having to follow the Constitutional Guidelines (and the laws in place) and what you sent has nothing that supports your statement.

I read the entire thing and there is not one single reference that supports your statement.

Here is a copy of one of the articles in what you sent, to show you that I read the whole thing. This article that I am providing below actually supports my statement and makes yours total BS.

A.​

The Department of Justice, in consultation with other relevant agencies, shall develop a streamlined, fair, and effective procedure to expedite removal of deportable aliens. As necessary, additional legislative authority will be sought in this area. In addition, the Department of Justice shall increase its capacity to staff deportation and exclusion hearings to support these objectives.

Here is the actual law:

• Due Process in General:
  • The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution guarantee due process to all "persons" within U.S. borders, regardless of immigration status.
  • Due process generally means the government must provide appropriate notice of a government action and an opportunity for a fair hearing before depriving someone of life, liberty, or property.
  • The Supreme Court has consistently upheld that non-citizens, including those without legal status, have due process rights in deportation proceedings.

You are arriving in an area where communicating with you is a total waste of time. You have no interest in the truth. You are just interested in kissing Trump's ass and supporting Dictator's approach to what YOU want.

The Constitution be damned, right?

If your standard of due process for illegal aliens is a courtroom, a jury, free ACLU lawyers for the illegal alien and endless appeals that take years thats not going to happen

ICE reviews the record of every illegal before deporting them and thats all the due process they are entitled to

 

[Luckyone]

If your standard of due process for illegal aliens is a courtroom, a jury, free ACLU lawyers for the illegal alien and endless appeals that take years thats not going to happen

ICE reviews the record of every illegal before deporting them and thats all the due process they are entitled to

You are wrong. Due process means exactly that. Having said that, due process is showing the judge why you are deporting this person and judge giving the okay. In the case of known criminals that ALREADY have an established reason to be deported, then that step does not have to be taken.

Nonetheless, if you have a "Juan Perez" individual that you want to deport and there is no previous "established criminal record", you do need the okay from a judge, in order to fulfill the requirements that the 4th and 5th Amendment provides.

Stop making statements that you cannot support. Do yourself a favor and read the 4th and 5th amendments of the Constitution.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

This OP has nothing to do with deportations. It has to do with the Constitution and the law and there, Trump has not followed what he took an OATH to do. Defend the Constitution.

I do understand how everyone feels about illegal aliens and for the most part, I totally agree that they should be deported. Then again, throwing the Constitution into the garbage can, is worse>

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Of course he is. They've had their "due process." It's time to send these invaders home

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So we agree, what took you so long?

again, for the terminally retarded if they have been here under 2 years, they don't go to court, and it takes a few minutes to order the deportation.

 

[Mac-7]

What a load of total BS you provide.

I asked for a document where it gave the President the right to deport anyone without having to follow the Constitutional Guidelines (and the laws in place) and what you sent has nothing that supports your statement.

I read the entire thing and there is not one single reference that supports your statement.

Here is a copy of one of the articles in what you sent, to show you that I read the whole thing. This article that I am providing below actually supports my statement and makes yours total BS.

A.​

The Department of Justice, in consultation with other relevant agencies, shall develop a streamlined, fair, and effective procedure to expedite removal of deportable aliens. As necessary, additional legislative authority will be sought in this area. In addition, the Department of Justice shall increase its capacity to staff deportation and exclusion hearings to support these objectives.

Here is the actual law:

• Due Process in General:
  • The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution guarantee due process to all "persons" within U.S. borders, regardless of immigration status.
  • Due process generally means the government must provide appropriate notice of a government action and an opportunity for a fair hearing before depriving someone of life, liberty, or property.
  • The Supreme Court has consistently upheld that non-citizens, including those without legal status, have due process rights in deportation proceedings.

You are arriving in an area where communicating with you is a total waste of time. You have no interest in the truth. You are just interested in kissing Trump's ass and supporting Dictator's approach to what YOU want.

The Constitution be damned, right?

If your standard of due process for illegal aliens is a courtroom, a jury, free ACLU lawyers for the illegal alien and endless appeals that take years thats not going to happen

ICE reviews to record of every illegal before deporting them and thats all the due process they are entitled to

You are wrong. Due process means exactly that. Having said that, due process is showing the judge why you are deporting this person and judge giving the okay. In the case of known criminals that ALREADY have an established reason to be deported, then that step does not have to be taken.

Nonetheless, if you have a "Juan Perez" individual that you want to deport and there is no previous "established criminal record", you do need the okay from a judge, in order to fulfill the requirements that the 4th and 5th Amendment provides.

Stop making statements that you cannot support. Do yourself a favor and read the 4th and 5th amendments of the Constitution.

”The judge” can be an ICE official empowered to review the illegal alien’s record

 

[Nostra]

You are wrong. Due process means exactly that. Having said that, due process is showing the judge why you are deporting this person and judge giving the okay. In the case of known criminals that ALREADY have an established reason to be deported, then that step does not have to be taken.

Nonetheless, if you have a "Juan Perez" individual that you want to deport and there is no previous "established criminal record", you do need the okay from a judge, in order to fulfill the requirements that the 4th and 5th Amendment provides.

Stop making statements that you cannot support. Do yourself a favor and read the 4th and 5th amendments of the Constitution.

Coming into the US ILLEGALLY is a known crime, Dumbass.

Boot them out.

 

[Man With A Plan]

What a load of total BS you provide.

I asked for a document where it gave the President the right to deport anyone without having to follow the Constitutional Guidelines (and the laws in place) and what you sent has nothing that supports your statement.

I read the entire thing and there is not one single reference that supports your statement.

Here is a copy of one of the articles in what you sent, to show you that I read the whole thing. This article that I am providing below actually supports my statement and makes yours total BS.

A.​

The Department of Justice, in consultation with other relevant agencies, shall develop a streamlined, fair, and effective procedure to expedite removal of deportable aliens. As necessary, additional legislative authority will be sought in this area. In addition, the Department of Justice shall increase its capacity to staff deportation and exclusion hearings to support these objectives.

Here is the actual law:

• Due Process in General:
  • The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution guarantee due process to all "persons" within U.S. borders, regardless of immigration status.
  • Due process generally means the government must provide appropriate notice of a government action and an opportunity for a fair hearing before depriving someone of life, liberty, or property.
  • The Supreme Court has consistently upheld that non-citizens, including those without legal status, have due process rights in deportation proceedings.

You are arriving in an area where communicating with you is a total waste of time. You have no interest in the truth. You are just interested in kissing Trump's ass and supporting Dictator's approach to what YOU want.

The Constitution be damned, right?

You read the entire thing? You're such a bad liar, Lucky!
Where pray tell did you pull what you quoted?

 

[Correll]

This OP has nothing to do with deportations. It has to do with the Constitution and the law and there, Trump has not followed what he took an OATH to do. Defend the Constitution.

I do understand how everyone feels about illegal aliens and for the most part, I totally agree that they should be deported. Then again, throwing the Constitution into the garbage can, is worse>

...

The other side, the side you are on, the pro-illlegal immigration side,

this was always the plan. Grow the problem to the point that addressing it is difficult and messy, and then whine like little girls, over any and all issues, real or imagined.


There are two sides to this issue, Luckone, the American side, which wants want is good for AMERICAN, ie deport the illegals, and the ANTI-AMERICAN side, which is hostile to America and wants what is BAD for America. Because they hate America.

You are siding with the anti-Americans, not becaue you want due process, but becuase you want America to be changed to be more like the shitty third world.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

We need to teach you? Seriously?

.

One must be teachable, which they aren't.


.

 

[WEATHER53]

Yet another Unlickyone thread fail.’’

It’s a multi screen name troll

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So we agree, what took you so long?

I wanted to see you beg some more.

 

[marvin martian]

AI Overview

In fiscal year 2025 (starting October 1, 2024), ICE has arrested a significant number of individuals with no criminal convictions. Data from June indicates that 65% of the over 204,000 people booked into detention had no criminal convictions, according to the Cato Institute. Furthermore, over 93% of those detained had no history of violent offenses, according to the American Immigration Council.

Human and legal rights are being thrown out the window by the Trump administration.

AI Overview

Based on recent news reports and statements from civil rights and human rights organizations, there are concerns and allegations regarding the Trump administration's approach to human and legal rights in 2025. These include:

• Immigration Enforcement: The administration has been accused of adopting policies that disregard due process for immigrants and asylum seekers, including expanding immigration enforcement to target foreign nationals, particularly students and researchers, attempting to end birthright citizenship via executive order, and carrying out mass deportations and raids. A former Department of Justice lawyer, Erez Reuveni, has also accused the Trump administration of ignoring court rulings and pressuring attorneys to prioritize the President's agenda over ethical obligations in deportation cases.
• • Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI): The administration has moved to terminate grants related to DEI programs and prohibit federally-funded entities from engaging in such initiatives, prompting legal challenges.
  • Housing Discrimination: The Department of Housing and Urban Development is reportedly preparing to shut down investigations into housing discrimination and segregation cases.
  • Education: There are concerns about the Trump administration's dismantling of the Education Department's civil rights division and attacks on academic freedom and free expression at universities.
• Targeting of Critics:
  • Law Firms: Some law firms have been targeted with executive orders, facing sanctions like revoked security clearances and restricted access to federal buildings, for their pro bono work or associations with investigations involving President Trump.
  • Media and NGOs: There are concerns about undermining press freedom and the critical role of independent media. The administration has also cut funding to organizations supporting human rights defenders and independent journalists.

Is losing your rights to freedom and justice something that you want? If by any chance, you personally (or a member of your family) get arrested and thrown in jail (or worse, deported) without any chance of defending yourself, would you still be a Trump supporter?

By the way and for all of you that accuse these OP's as being TDS, may I remind you that Trump is doing things that no other U.S. president has done? He is changing the U.S. in ways that are against what our Constitution was built on. Do you honestly think that it should be ignored and Trump allowed to do it, without trying to change it (to the nth degree)?

"Innocent". LOL