ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!

[Stuartbirdan2]

And all these illegals were neither born here nor naturalized.

Any person

 

[WEATHER53]

It’s funny when liberals loons post what they feel are “official info” yet it’s rarely on topic nor a response to the topic

 

[Mac-7]

Indeed, glad to see your discussing Israeli settlers rationally for once.

American beaten to death by Israeli settlers in the West Bank

The Council on American-Islamic Relations called on President Donald Trump to hold Israel accountable for the killing of U.S. citizen Sayfollah Musallet, 20.

www.nbcnews.com

I think there must be more to the story

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I think

No you don't.

there must be more to the story

Yes, he's not a White Evangelical Christian or Jewish.

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

 

[Lisa558]

I think libs are going to be hugely disappointed to find no incriminating evidence against trump

Which is the only reason they care about Epstein

I stay up on the news, as you know, and this is one story I have no interest in. It’s just tabloid stuff.

I am much more interested in Trump’s successful closure of the border, his success with deportations, his blocking of the Iranian terrorist regime’s nuke program, the low gas prices, his tax bill that kept the tax cuts in place for the middle and working classes, and his SCOTUS success in preventing the media from doctoring interviews to hide the idiocy of the Democrat candidate to effect the election.

I’m also happy with the inflation rate, the stock market highs, and the fact that he is pushing back against the antisemitism the libs on spreading on college campuses.

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

I think there must be more to the story

A lot more

 

[Mac-7]

Any person

Illegal aliens are not being denied any rights they are entitled to

I wish libs were as dedicated to enforcing the laws that the illegals have broken by being here

 

[WEATHER53]

Any person

Not any person on planet but rather persons already on American soil -it’s the Constitution of the USA and not Alien rights to invade USA. The only persons they knew to write for and about were persons of the USA. They didn’t draft for Mexicans

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

I think there must be more to the story

According to your new findings, how many cases of Israeli rape were there in 1948?

“About a dozen. In Acre four soldiers raped a girl and murdered her and her father. In Jaffa, soldiers of the Kiryati Brigade raped one girl and tried to rape several more. At Hunin, which is in the Galilee, two girls were raped and then murdered. There were one or two cases of rape at Tantura, south of Haifa. There was one case of rape at Qula, in the center of the country. At the village of Abu Shusha, near Kibbutz Gezer [in the Ramle area] there were four female prisoners, one of whom was raped a number of times. And there were other cases. Usually more than one soldier was involved. Usually there were one or two Palestinian girls. In a large proportion of the cases the event ended with murder. Because neither the victims nor the rapists liked to report these events, we have to assume that the dozen cases of rape that were reported, which I found, are not the whole story. They are just the tip of the iceberg.”

According to your findings, how many acts of Israeli massacre were perpetrated in 1948?

“Twenty-four. In some cases four or five people were executed, in others the numbers were 70, 80, 100. There was also a great deal of arbitrary killing. Two old men are spotted walking in a field – they are shot. A woman is found in an abandoned village – she is shot. There are cases such as the village of Dawayima [in the Hebron region], in which a column entered the village with all guns blazing and killed anything that moved

 

[Lisa558]

Any person

Any person born or naturalized here. NOT foreigners streaming in illegally.

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Not any person on planet but rather persons already on American soil -it’s the Constitution of the USA and not Alien rights to invade USA. The only persons they knew to write for and about were persons of the USA. They didn’t draft for Mexicans

The court heard arguments on May 15 and then released its decision on June 27. In Trump v. CASA, writing for a 6-3 conservative majority, Justice Amy Coney Barrett determined that universal injunctions likely exceed the authority of the lower courts and are, in many cases, unnecessary to provide complete relief to those challenging a policy. The court’s opinion left open the possibility of nationwide class-based injunctions, as well as nationwide injunctions in cases challenging agency actions as illegal, as Mila Sohoni previously wrote for SCOTUSblog.

The decision was one of the most significant of the 2024-25 term, as well as a major victory for the Trump administration in its effort to implement its policy goals through executive action. But when it came to the birthright citizenship battle, in particular, it quickly became clear that the ruling wasn’t a slam dunk for federal officials, since it provided a road map to new, class-based injunctions that would also apply nationwide

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Any person born or naturalized here. NOT foreigners streaming in illegally.

Four decades later, the Supreme Court ruled that the 14th Amendment guarantees U.S. citizenship to anyone born in the United States. The decision came in the case of Wong Kim Ark, who was born in San Francisco to parents of Chinese descent. When he returned to the United States from a visit to China in 1895, immigration officials would not allow him to enter the country on the ground that he was not a U.S. citizen.

By a vote of 6-2, the Supreme Court agreed with Wong that he was a U.S. citizen. Writing for the majority, Justice Horace Gray explained that although the “main purpose” of the 14th Amendment had been to establish the citizenship of Black people, including former enslaved persons, born in the United States, the amendment applies more broadly and is not restricted “by color or race.” Instead, he wrote, the amendment “affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens.”

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Wrong thread.

The topic here is the illegal alien invasion and the deportation of these scofflaws.

1a

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

1a

Post in thread 'ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!' ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Wrong thread.

The topic here is the illegal alien invasion and the deportation of these scofflaws.

Post in thread 'ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!' ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Wrong thread.

The topic here is the illegal alien invasion and the deportation of these scofflaws.

Snowflake

 

[Luckyone]

They’re talking about innocent American citizens.

No illegal alien is innocent. They violated immigration law.

In the 1840's, more than 14 million immigrants came to the U.S. They weren't considered illegal because there was no law against immigrants coming here at that time.

In the 1870's, the first laws determining who was illegal were passed, and it had to do with preventing criminals from coming here. In 1924, another law was passed that gave quotas as to how many could come here from each nation.

None of these laws prevented anyone (other than a criminal) from coming here, meaning that people coming here that were not criminals were basically "innocent".

With the laws changing so often since then, it does mean that most of the people coming here do not know they are "breaking the law". As such, they cannot be considered guilty as it takes knowledge that a crime is being committed to qualify as committing a crime. Most of those coming here are people fighting for their own existence and survival. That is not a crime. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is something every living person has a right to.

 

[Nostra]

In the 1840's, more than 14 million immigrants came to the U.S. They weren't considered illegal because there was no law against immigrants coming here at that time.

In the 1870's, the first laws determining who was illegal were passed, and it had to do with preventing criminals from coming here. In 1924, another law was passed that gave quotas as to how many could come here from each nation.

None of these laws prevented anyone (other than a criminal) from coming here, meaning that people coming here that were not criminals were basically "innocent".

With the laws changing so often since then, it does mean that most of the people coming here do not know they are "breaking the law". As such, they cannot be considered guilty as it takes knowledge that a crime is being committed to qualify as committing a crime. Most of those coming here are people fighting for their own existence and survival. That is not a crime. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is something every living person has a right to.

There is a law against it now, Stupid. That’s why they are all criminals.

 

[Nobody911]

Trump + right-wing media => mass deportations of non-criminal.
They obviously hate immigrants. Amen!

The surge in ICE arrests of non-criminal immigrants under Trump’s recent administration primarily benefited several groups with distinct interests:

1. Political and Ideological Beneficiaries

White House officials like Stephen Miller, a key architect of Trump’s immigration policy, pushed for mass arrests regardless of criminality to enforce a broader anti-immigrant agenda. Miller reportedly pressured ICE to prioritize quantity over quality in arrests, aiming to deport large numbers simply to reduce the immigrant population without focusing on public safety threats 1.

This approach aligns with a political strategy of appealing to a voter base favoring strict immigration enforcement as a demonstration of toughness and immigration control, regardless of individual guilt.

2. ICE and Immigration Enforcement Agencies

ICE received vastly increased funding and resources (e.g., $14.4 billion for removals, 10,000 new ICE agents, and expanded detention space) to carry out mass arrests and deportations 2. This expansion benefits ICE bureaucratically and financially by justifying increased budgets and staffing.

The agency also implemented advanced digital systems like ImmigrationOS to identify potential removals more efficiently, broadening enforcement to civil violations beyond criminal cases 3.

3. Private Detention Operators and Associated Industries

Dramatic increases in non-criminal detentions led to record ICE detention populations (over 50,000 simultaneously by June 2025), benefiting private detention centers and businesses contracted to provide beds, transport, and services 8.

The Trump administration's policies and funding expansions created demand for more detention capacity, boosting profits for these contractors.

4. Law Enforcement Partnerships and Local Agencies

Local law enforcement groups participating in federal immigration enforcement partnerships (e.g., 287(g) programs) have seen increased roles and funding opportunities for cooperating with ICE, involving arrests during traffic stops and workplace raids 5.

These partnerships can create incentives for local agencies to support broader enforcement actions that include non-criminal immigrants.

Analysis

The increase in non-criminal arrests under Trump is not driven by public safety imperatives but by political goals to reduce immigrant populations aggressively, disregarding individual criminal histories 1. This has institutional effects, propelling ICE’s growth and financing massive detention infrastructure while generating political capital for the administration. It also fuels a climate of fear and disruption among immigrant communities, which seems a deliberate deterrent strategy rather than an enforcement of serious criminal justice. The policy benefits the enforcement bureaucracy and political agendas more than community safety or legal fairness.

In sum, this shift benefits the Trump administration’s political objectives, ICE’s institutional interests, and private detention operators, but it does so at the cost of targeting many innocent or non-criminal individuals without improving public safety 1258.

sources:

1. https://www.cato.org/commentary/trump-says-ice-arresting-worst-worst-new-data-shows-thats-not-true
2. Six Months of Keeping America Safe Under President Trump and Secretary Noem | Homeland Security
3. https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/trump-ice-data-surveillance
4. The Anti-Immigrant Policies in Trump’s Final “Big Beautiful Bill,” Explained
5. Trump's 2025 Deportation Surge: Non Criminals Targeted in New Policies
6. https://www.axios.com/2025/07/17/trump-ice-raids-arrests-immigration
7. Trump vowed to deport the 'worst of the worst' -- but new data shows a shift to also arresting non-criminals
8. ICE is arresting more non-criminals than ever
9. 100 days of record-breaking immigration enforcement in the US interior
10. The Chilling Effect of Trump’s Indiscriminate Immigration Arrests & Propaganda - American Immigration Council