I will not Bow!

[Billo_Really]

Maybe the Palestinians should stop shooting at the Jews, then.

The Israeli's shoot at people fishing and farming (hey, RoccoR, do you also thank that?), so don't go there!

People who bring a cooking spatula to a gun-fight don't last long.

Maybe it was people bringing guns to a picnic?

Nature's way of de-selecting the foolish and ill-prepared.

You make such a good German!

 

[Hossfly]

Sweet_Caroline, et al,

There is not one single reason as to why the Arab Palestinian refugee columns formed, but a compilation of several reasons.

Text from Youtube description:
According to Palestinians, they were expelled from Israel by the Jewish armies in 1948. A large documentation, and many testimonies from Arab leaders and historians intend to prove that, actually, they fled the zone of conflict because of Arab propaganda, spreading the fake news of massacres... Deir Yassin, among those so said massacres, became a legend.

(COMMENT)

There is no question that a battle was fought at Deir Yassin. It is quite the matter of record that various elements of Jewish quasi-militia [some believe Irgun Zevai Leumi (AKA: National Military Organization) were the culprits while others claim the Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist (AKA: Lehi or Stern Gang) were involved], attempting to breach the blockade of Jerusalem, fought a major engagement there. Whether all the stories are true, partly true, exaggerated - or not, may never be known. But the Mandatory put the matter on record in the 20 April 1948 Communication Received from United Kingdom Delegation Concerning Jewish Attack on Arab Village of Deir Yassin (9 April 1948) (A/AC.21/UK/113 20 April 1948). It was an event serious enough for the Chief Rabbinate Council to issue a condemnation; and serious enough for the Haganah (Later to become the IDF) to step in and take charge of the situation from the various elements of Jewish quasi-militia involved. The Haganah may have interfered with the proper (Jewish) Police Investigation of the incident. It was a perfect (anti-Jewish) event to amplify in the press on the part of the pro-Arab Palestinian movements. Again, not as a means of justification, but in the practical recognition that both sides had unfortunate events.

In the 20th Century, marked and scared by many wars, no major conflict had gone without some serious incident, of this nature, having occurred. I say this is, not a justification for such actions, but in practical recognition --- that in reality, incidents of this nature do occur and are used as a means to sling mud on the opponent.

• December 1947 – Small kibbutzim were subjected to attacks – Gvulot, Ben-Shemen, Holon, Safed, Bat Yam and Kfar Yavetz. Sixty-two Jews were murdered by Arabs around Palestine.
• December 30, 1947 – 39 Jews were killed by Arab rioters at Haifa’s oil refinery
• January 16, 1948 – 35 Jews were killed trying to reach Gush Etzion
• February 22, 1948 – 44 Jews were murdered in a bombing on Jerusalem’s Rehov Ben-Yehuda
• February 29, 1948 – 23 Jews were killed all across Palestine, eight of them at the Hayotzek iron foundry.
• January and February 1948 – Rishon Lezion, Yehiam, Mishmar Hayarden, Tirat Zvi, Sde Eliahu, Ein Hanatziv, Magdiel, Mitzpe Hagalil and Ma’anit were all subjected to attacks. Arab attackers also bombed The Palestine Post
• April 13, 1948 – 35 Jew were murdered during the Hadassah medical convoy massacre

As I've said many times, neither side has clean hands.

Most Respectfully,
R

incidents of this nature do occur and are used as a means to sling mud on the opponent.

That you do all of the time. You always slime the Palestinians, though.

But then again, you don't believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

You're being unfair, Tinmore. Rocco lays out the written facts and you say they are fairy tales. Realize that you fall back two steps for every one step you take.

 

[Kondor3]

Maybe the Palestinians should stop shooting at the Jews, then.

The Israeli's shoot at people fishing and farming (hey, RoccoR, do you also thank that?), so don't go there!...

There have, indeed, been several questionable 'fence shootings' or 'border shootings' committed by individual Israeli soldiers (as opposed to an intentional and long-running policy by the Israeli government).

But for every 'questionable' shooting there are a hundred 'righteous' ones.

Just to put that in perspective.

People who bring a cooking spatula to a gun-fight don't last long.

"Maybe it was people bringing guns to a picnic?"

Except that these picnic-ers have sworn (and still do swear) to drown the picnic-crashers in the Mediterranean and to wipe them out.

Before you shoot off your mouth and try to do that, you should make sure that your picnic has enough muscle to actually make that happen.

Otherwise, don't come crying when you get your stupid, foolish ass kicked - time and again.

Nature's way of de-selecting the foolish and ill-prepared.

"You make such a good German!"

Spare me the weak and ineffectual and unsubstantial Godwin-isms.

Nature will be nature, regardless of your discomfort with such an outcome being suggested for the fools that you advocate for.

 

[Sally]

Can you honestly say with a straight face that the Palestinians are treated as poorly as we see others being treated in the Middle East.

Absolutely!

You have to go all the way back to Nazi Germany to find an entire population of people treated worse than the Palestinian's.

Thousands and thousands of dead Catholics and other Christians in the Middle East, and you just close your eyes to it because the Jews are not involved in their deaths. This is what the German people did when they smelled the odor from the crematoriums.

 

[toastman]

They do if the only other option is death, which is what was on offer. The people themselves tell the same story how the arab armies asked them to leave the field of battle to return 2 weeks later as the new owners of all the Jewish land and property. For greed people will do anything, and there is none more greedy than a muslim.

You have know idea just how stupid you really are?

You just proved my point!

Here you have a entire population of people living in an area in virtual peace, generation after generation, then one day for some reason, they are presented with the dilemma...

a) continue to live in this area


....................or.................as you stated................


b) "...the only other option is death..."​

So what, pray tell, is the reason (after 2000 years), are these people presented with the "...option of death..."?

And that "reason", is YOU FUCKERS!

You imported violence and hostility into the area and turned almost a million peaceful living farmers, into refugees, fleeing for their safety.

This is how you treated them then and this is how you treat them today...

"They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination...
- Ahad Ha'am (famous Zionist humanist)

That quote is shown to be true in every one you (and your god-damn, Israeli kiss-ass, butt-buddy's) posts.

Oh shut the **** up with your Palestinian parotting!
When will you understand that no whining, cursing and crying on your part will change what happened in 1948 and before. The European Jews had EVERY right to be there and to think that they were the only part of the beginning of hostilities, of even a majority of the reasons, means you are a biased Palestinian propaganda spewing shill

You're not happy that the European Jews showed up?? Too fuckin bad, they were invited and their immigration fascilitated by the British.

You're not happy that the Jews started to fight back and go on the offensive?? Too fuckin bad, you should t have massacred them in 1929, and you shouldnt have started problems during the Arab revolt on 1936-1939.

You're not happy that the Irgun was created?? Too fuckin bad, they were created to protect the Jewish residents from Arab attacks

You're not happy that the Israelis started the main portions of their military advances in 1948 which led to Palestinian villages being destroyed?? Too bad, you should t have joined the Arab forces in driving the 'Jews to the sea'.

You're not happy that your land is occupied?? Too fuckin bad, you should have convinced Jordan not to join the war and you should not have joined the Arab for either.

Wahhh wahhh wahhh. Stop fuckin whining

 

[Sally]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4r7ZjG9Nc

Text from Youtube description:
According to Palestinians, they were expelled from Israel by the Jewish armies in 1948. A large documentation, and many testimonies from Arab leaders and historians intend to prove that, actually, they fled the zone of conflict because of Arab propaganda, spreading the fake news of massacres... Deir Yassin, among those so said massacres, became a legend.

No text from Youtube, but that won't stop you from singing it with me twisted sister, c'mon girl, let it out...


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vhFnTjia_I]Neil Diamond - Sweet Caroline High Quality neildiamond - YouTube[/ame]

Since you brought up Neil Diamond, I bet you don't know that Neil Diamond's mother lived in the San Fernando Valley in the Oakwood Apartments in the 1970's-1980's and played cards with the other Jewish women there such as the mother of a friend of mine. It is amusing how Billy has had no problem calling the females who have a different view from his twisted sisters when it appears that he is very twisted himself.

 

[toastman]

Can you honestly say with a straight face that the Palestinians are treated as poorly as we see others being treated in the Middle East.

Absolutely!

You have to go all the way back to Nazi Germany to find an entire population of people treated worse than the Palestinian's.

You hear that Billo? That's the sound of your credibility being flushed down the toilet.

Hey, Billo's credibility, say hi to Tinmores credibility when you're down there!

Speaking of Nazis, doesnt Hamas have the same final solution, or a very similar one as Hitler did?

Speaking of Nazis, haven't many many MANY Palestinians screamed for the Genocide of Israelis? Only difference is Hitler hid his intentions while the Arabs scream it from the rooftops

 

[toastman]

Sweet_Caroline, et al,

There is not one single reason as to why the Arab Palestinian refugee columns formed, but a compilation of several reasons.

Text from Youtube description:
According to Palestinians, they were expelled from Israel by the Jewish armies in 1948. A large documentation, and many testimonies from Arab leaders and historians intend to prove that, actually, they fled the zone of conflict because of Arab propaganda, spreading the fake news of massacres... Deir Yassin, among those so said massacres, became a legend.

(COMMENT)

There is no question that a battle was fought at Deir Yassin. It is quite the matter of record that various elements of Jewish quasi-militia [some believe Irgun Zevai Leumi (AKA: National Military Organization) were the culprits while others claim the Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist (AKA: Lehi or Stern Gang) were involved], attempting to breach the blockade of Jerusalem, fought a major engagement there. Whether all the stories are true, partly true, exaggerated - or not, may never be known. But the Mandatory put the matter on record in the 20 April 1948 Communication Received from United Kingdom Delegation Concerning Jewish Attack on Arab Village of Deir Yassin (9 April 1948) (A/AC.21/UK/113 20 April 1948). It was an event serious enough for the Chief Rabbinate Council to issue a condemnation; and serious enough for the Haganah (Later to become the IDF) to step in and take charge of the situation from the various elements of Jewish quasi-militia involved. The Haganah may have interfered with the proper (Jewish) Police Investigation of the incident. It was a perfect (anti-Jewish) event to amplify in the press on the part of the pro-Arab Palestinian movements. Again, not as a means of justification, but in the practical recognition that both sides had unfortunate events.

In the 20th Century, marked and scared by many wars, no major conflict had gone without some serious incident, of this nature, having occurred. I say this is, not a justification for such actions, but in practical recognition --- that in reality, incidents of this nature do occur and are used as a means to sling mud on the opponent.

• December 1947 – Small kibbutzim were subjected to attacks – Gvulot, Ben-Shemen, Holon, Safed, Bat Yam and Kfar Yavetz. Sixty-two Jews were murdered by Arabs around Palestine.
• December 30, 1947 – 39 Jews were killed by Arab rioters at Haifa’s oil refinery
• January 16, 1948 – 35 Jews were killed trying to reach Gush Etzion
• February 22, 1948 – 44 Jews were murdered in a bombing on Jerusalem’s Rehov Ben-Yehuda
• February 29, 1948 – 23 Jews were killed all across Palestine, eight of them at the Hayotzek iron foundry.
• January and February 1948 – Rishon Lezion, Yehiam, Mishmar Hayarden, Tirat Zvi, Sde Eliahu, Ein Hanatziv, Magdiel, Mitzpe Hagalil and Ma’anit were all subjected to attacks. Arab attackers also bombed The Palestine Post
• April 13, 1948 – 35 Jew were murdered during the Hadassah medical convoy massacre

As I've said many times, neither side has clean hands.

Most Respectfully,
R

incidents of this nature do occur and are used as a means to sling mud on the opponent.

That you do all of the time. You always slime the Palestinians, though.

But then again, you don't believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

Croc of crap Tinmore. I challenge you to refute one thing Rocco said.
And when did he say he doesn't believe in Palestinians can defend himself?
Give me three specific examples of the Palestinians defending themselves

 

[Phoenall]

God, I hope Israel is not paying you to post...Yakety yak, overboard redundancy, two sentences in and bored we go...The point being lost in a bag of hot air...

What is your point? Are you saying we should discuss Biafra or Sudan in the Palestinian Israeli board? Discuss obsessions and delusions?

What is your point in one sentence.

Well I certainly hope that you didn't take money for your silly poems when you became a Dhimmi. Let's face it, Pbel, anyone who knows your history during the years of you posting realizes that you are not interested in the Middle East as a whole, but are only interested in the "Zionists." Do you realize that just in this year alone, thousands and thousands of people have been killed in the Middle East? I know you can't involve the "Zionists" in this, but these people are still dead. Do you really think that those who did the killings actually want to see Jews governing a little piece of land in the Middle East?

It is rather useless to dwell on whether people like or dislike right wing Zionists or Jews of Israel... You seem to dwell on this rather than discussing how peace may be had...The world has condemned Israel for its occupation yet you dwell on why people dislike them? Those billions of people in the world dislike Israel because she breaks all International Laws like a criminal empire on the Palestinians, all because of Power and Greed.

BBC poll: Israel among world's least popular nations

BBC poll: Israel among world's least popular nations - World Israel News | Haaretz

Why do you LIE so much

The world has not condemned Israel at all, just the ISLAMONAZI JEW HATERS. Not once have you itemised the INERNATIONAL LAWS Israel is supposed to have broken, just made vague claims of apartheid and racism.
peace can be had very easily by the Palestinians stopping all violence, terrorism and belligerence

 

[Kondor3]

Can you honestly say with a straight face that the Palestinians are treated as poorly as we see others being treated in the Middle East.

Absolutely!

You have to go all the way back to Nazi Germany to find an entire population of people treated worse than the Palestinian's.

You hear that Billo? That's the sound of your credibility being flushed down the toilet.

Hey, Billo's credibility, say hi to Tinmores credibility when you're down there!

Speaking of Nazis, doesnt Hamas have the same final solution, or a very similar one as Hitler did?

Speaking of Nazis, haven't many many MANY Palestinians screamed for the Genocide of Israelis? Only difference is Hitler hid his intentions while the Arabs scream it from the rooftops

Questions?

 

[Phoenall]

They do if the only other option is death, which is what was on offer. The people themselves tell the same story how the arab armies asked them to leave the field of battle to return 2 weeks later as the new owners of all the Jewish land and property. For greed people will do anything, and there is none more greedy than a muslim.

You have know idea just how stupid you really are?

You just proved my point!

Here you have a entire population of people living in an area in virtual peace, generation after generation, then one day for some reason, they are presented with the dilemma...

a) continue to live in this area


....................or.................as you stated................


b) "...the only other option is death..."​

So what, pray tell, is the reason (after 2000 years), are these people presented with the "...option of death..."?

And that "reason", is YOU FUCKERS!

You imported violence and hostility into the area and turned almost a million peaceful living farmers, into refugees, fleeing for their safety.

This is how you treated them then and this is how you treat them today...

"They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination...
- Ahad Ha'am (famous Zionist humanist)

That quote is shown to be true in every one you (and your god-damn, Israeli kiss-ass, butt-buddy's) posts.

No comment on these attacks then by the Palestinians

December 1947 – Small kibbutzim were subjected to attacks – Gvulot, Ben-Shemen, Holon, Safed, Bat Yam and Kfar Yavetz. Sixty-two Jews were murdered by Arabs around Palestine.
December 30, 1947 – 39 Jews were killed by Arab rioters at Haifa’s oil refinery
January 16, 1948 – 35 Jews were killed trying to reach Gush Etzion
February 22, 1948 – 44 Jews were murdered in a bombing on Jerusalem’s Rehov Ben-Yehuda
February 29, 1948 – 23 Jews were killed all across Palestine, eight of them at the Hayotzek iron foundry.
January and February 1948 – Rishon Lezion, Yehiam, Mishmar Hayarden, Tirat Zvi, Sde Eliahu, Ein Hanatziv, Magdiel, Mitzpe Hagalil and Ma’anit were all subjected to attacks. Arab attackers also bombed The Palestine Post
April 13, 1948 – 35 Jew were murdered during the Hadassah medical convoy massacre

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4r7ZjG9Nc

Text from Youtube description:
According to Palestinians, they were expelled from Israel by the Jewish armies in 1948. A large documentation, and many testimonies from Arab leaders and historians intend to prove that, actually, they fled the zone of conflict because of Arab propaganda, spreading the fake news of massacres... Deir Yassin, among those so said massacres, became a legend.

No text from Youtube, but that won't stop you from singing it with me twisted sister, c'mon girl, let it out...


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vhFnTjia_I]Neil Diamond - Sweet Caroline High Quality neildiamond - YouTube[/ame]

This is where I got my username from, not Neil Diamond.

 

[Phoenall]

Rocco, when pro Palestinians like Pbel and Tinmore describe the events of the the Mandatory Palestine civil war and the Arab Israeli war, they always out the Arab atrocoties. They like to make it seem like it was one side attacking the other and thats it

Israel's version of history.

The British went to America in 1812. The Americans attacked and the British had to defend themselves.

So what is the unbiased and non arab version of history then ?

 

[Phoenall]

Can you honestly say with a straight face that the Palestinians are treated as poorly as we see others being treated in the Middle East.

Absolutely!

You have to go all the way back to Nazi Germany to find an entire population of people treated worse than the Palestinian's.

NOPE just to 1989 when Iraq was mass murdering the Kurds, genocide and ethnic cleansing were around every corner. When the Iraqis used chemical and biological weapons against the Kurds and killed men, women and children by the thousands.

Then we had the mass murder of Palestinians by Jordan when 50,000 by some accounts were mowed down in the prison camps with no chance of escape. More were murdered in one month by the Jordanians that Israel managed in 66 years.

Just two examples of how the people you defend treat those who are different to them, aqnd you only find fault with the Jews.

POINTS TO YOU PRACTISING NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED AND YOU WOULD NOT BE OUT OF PLACE AT THE NEXT KRYSTAL NACHT.

 

[Phoenall]

Sweet_Caroline, et al,

There is not one single reason as to why the Arab Palestinian refugee columns formed, but a compilation of several reasons.

Text from Youtube description:
According to Palestinians, they were expelled from Israel by the Jewish armies in 1948. A large documentation, and many testimonies from Arab leaders and historians intend to prove that, actually, they fled the zone of conflict because of Arab propaganda, spreading the fake news of massacres... Deir Yassin, among those so said massacres, became a legend.

(COMMENT)

There is no question that a battle was fought at Deir Yassin. It is quite the matter of record that various elements of Jewish quasi-militia [some believe Irgun Zevai Leumi (AKA: National Military Organization) were the culprits while others claim the Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist (AKA: Lehi or Stern Gang) were involved], attempting to breach the blockade of Jerusalem, fought a major engagement there. Whether all the stories are true, partly true, exaggerated - or not, may never be known. But the Mandatory put the matter on record in the 20 April 1948 Communication Received from United Kingdom Delegation Concerning Jewish Attack on Arab Village of Deir Yassin (9 April 1948) (A/AC.21/UK/113 20 April 1948). It was an event serious enough for the Chief Rabbinate Council to issue a condemnation; and serious enough for the Haganah (Later to become the IDF) to step in and take charge of the situation from the various elements of Jewish quasi-militia involved. The Haganah may have interfered with the proper (Jewish) Police Investigation of the incident. It was a perfect (anti-Jewish) event to amplify in the press on the part of the pro-Arab Palestinian movements. Again, not as a means of justification, but in the practical recognition that both sides had unfortunate events.

In the 20th Century, marked and scared by many wars, no major conflict had gone without some serious incident, of this nature, having occurred. I say this is, not a justification for such actions, but in practical recognition --- that in reality, incidents of this nature do occur and are used as a means to sling mud on the opponent.

• December 1947 – Small kibbutzim were subjected to attacks – Gvulot, Ben-Shemen, Holon, Safed, Bat Yam and Kfar Yavetz. Sixty-two Jews were murdered by Arabs around Palestine.
• December 30, 1947 – 39 Jews were killed by Arab rioters at Haifa’s oil refinery
• January 16, 1948 – 35 Jews were killed trying to reach Gush Etzion
• February 22, 1948 – 44 Jews were murdered in a bombing on Jerusalem’s Rehov Ben-Yehuda
• February 29, 1948 – 23 Jews were killed all across Palestine, eight of them at the Hayotzek iron foundry.
• January and February 1948 – Rishon Lezion, Yehiam, Mishmar Hayarden, Tirat Zvi, Sde Eliahu, Ein Hanatziv, Magdiel, Mitzpe Hagalil and Ma’anit were all subjected to attacks. Arab attackers also bombed The Palestine Post
• April 13, 1948 – 35 Jew were murdered during the Hadassah medical convoy massacre

As I've said many times, neither side has clean hands.

Most Respectfully,
R

incidents of this nature do occur and are used as a means to sling mud on the opponent.

That you do all of the time. You always slime the Palestinians, though.

But then again, you don't believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

Defend themselves from what actually, it is them that instigate the fighting and then whinge when Israel retaliates. Fire a rocket at Israeli children and you will get your ass kicked hard, learn to live with the consequence of your actions.

 

[aris2chat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4r7ZjG9Nc

Text from Youtube description:
According to Palestinians, they were expelled from Israel by the Jewish armies in 1948. A large documentation, and many testimonies from Arab leaders and historians intend to prove that, actually, they fled the zone of conflict because of Arab propaganda, spreading the fake news of massacres... Deir Yassin, among those so said massacres, became a legend.

No text from Youtube, but that won't stop you from singing it with me twisted sister, c'mon girl, let it out...


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vhFnTjia_I]Neil Diamond - Sweet Caroline High Quality neildiamond - YouTube[/ame]

translation was accuurate

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4r7ZjG9Nc

Text from Youtube description:
According to Palestinians, they were expelled from Israel by the Jewish armies in 1948. A large documentation, and many testimonies from Arab leaders and historians intend to prove that, actually, they fled the zone of conflict because of Arab propaganda, spreading the fake news of massacres... Deir Yassin, among those so said massacres, became a legend.

No text from Youtube, but that won't stop you from singing it with me twisted sister, c'mon girl, let it out...


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vhFnTjia_I]Neil Diamond - Sweet Caroline High Quality neildiamond - YouTube[/ame]

translation was accuurate

Of course it was accurate, which is why Brillo diverted the topic. He does that when he realizes he has lost the argument.

 

[Phoenall]

Maybe the Palestinians should stop shooting at the Jews, then.

The Israeli's shoot at people fishing and farming (hey, RoccoR, do you also thank that?), so don't go there!

People who bring a cooking spatula to a gun-fight don't last long.

Maybe it was people bringing guns to a picnic?

Nature's way of de-selecting the foolish and ill-prepared.

You make such a good German!

Like the Palestinians firing rockets loaded with chemical/biological agents at Israeli children. So according to your NAZI MENTALLITY the Israelis should not fire back

Or it could have been terrorists planting bombs in children's playgrounds ?

You make an even better one, or are you a commie that sees no harm in starving 10 million people to death.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sweet_Caroline, et al,

There is not one single reason as to why the Arab Palestinian refugee columns formed, but a compilation of several reasons.


(COMMENT)

There is no question that a battle was fought at Deir Yassin. It is quite the matter of record that various elements of Jewish quasi-militia [some believe Irgun Zevai Leumi (AKA: National Military Organization) were the culprits while others claim the Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist (AKA: Lehi or Stern Gang) were involved], attempting to breach the blockade of Jerusalem, fought a major engagement there. Whether all the stories are true, partly true, exaggerated - or not, may never be known. But the Mandatory put the matter on record in the 20 April 1948 Communication Received from United Kingdom Delegation Concerning Jewish Attack on Arab Village of Deir Yassin (9 April 1948) (A/AC.21/UK/113 20 April 1948). It was an event serious enough for the Chief Rabbinate Council to issue a condemnation; and serious enough for the Haganah (Later to become the IDF) to step in and take charge of the situation from the various elements of Jewish quasi-militia involved. The Haganah may have interfered with the proper (Jewish) Police Investigation of the incident. It was a perfect (anti-Jewish) event to amplify in the press on the part of the pro-Arab Palestinian movements. Again, not as a means of justification, but in the practical recognition that both sides had unfortunate events.

In the 20th Century, marked and scared by many wars, no major conflict had gone without some serious incident, of this nature, having occurred. I say this is, not a justification for such actions, but in practical recognition --- that in reality, incidents of this nature do occur and are used as a means to sling mud on the opponent.

• December 1947 – Small kibbutzim were subjected to attacks – Gvulot, Ben-Shemen, Holon, Safed, Bat Yam and Kfar Yavetz. Sixty-two Jews were murdered by Arabs around Palestine.
• December 30, 1947 – 39 Jews were killed by Arab rioters at Haifa’s oil refinery
• January 16, 1948 – 35 Jews were killed trying to reach Gush Etzion
• February 22, 1948 – 44 Jews were murdered in a bombing on Jerusalem’s Rehov Ben-Yehuda
• February 29, 1948 – 23 Jews were killed all across Palestine, eight of them at the Hayotzek iron foundry.
• January and February 1948 – Rishon Lezion, Yehiam, Mishmar Hayarden, Tirat Zvi, Sde Eliahu, Ein Hanatziv, Magdiel, Mitzpe Hagalil and Ma’anit were all subjected to attacks. Arab attackers also bombed The Palestine Post
• April 13, 1948 – 35 Jew were murdered during the Hadassah medical convoy massacre

As I've said many times, neither side has clean hands.

Most Respectfully,
R

incidents of this nature do occur and are used as a means to sling mud on the opponent.

That you do all of the time. You always slime the Palestinians, though.

But then again, you don't believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

Croc of crap Tinmore. I challenge you to refute one thing Rocco said.

It is not so much that I refute what he says. It is whenever I mention that the Palestinians have the right to self determination without external interference, his come back is a page of things that foreigners did. That confirms my point.

And when did he say he doesn't believe in Palestinians can defend himself?

Rocco always refers to Palestinian defense as hostilities.

Give me three specific examples of the Palestinians defending themselves

Anything to resist or remove the occupation.

 

[toastman]

That you do all of the time. You always slime the Palestinians, though.

But then again, you don't believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

Croc of crap Tinmore. I challenge you to refute one thing Rocco said.

It is not so much that I refute what he says. It is whenever I mention that the Palestinians have the right to self determination without external interference, his come back is a page of things that foreigners did. That confirms my point.

And when did he say he doesn't believe in Palestinians can defend himself?

Rocco always refers to Palestinian defense as hostilities.

Give me three specific examples of the Palestinians defending themselves

Anything to resist or remove the occupation.

Thats because what they do IS hostilities Tinmore. But since you are a Hamas shill, you call it 'defending'
Of course, you still cant come up with specific examples of what they have done to defend and you certainly would not be able to explain how those examples are defending. So please.