I will not Bow!

[ForeverYoung436]

What did I post that is incorrect?

There is an armistice line between Israel and Lebanon

There is an armistice line between Israel and Syria

There is an INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED border between Israel and Egypt

There is an INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED border between Israel and Jordan

Palestine has refused to take part in peace talks repeatedly

Syria has refused to take part in peace talks repeatedly

That is why the west bank is occupied under International Law and will stay that way until peace has been agreed

You are ducking the question. You only mentioned two of my points and got both of them wrong.

I believe Syria was involved in the Madrid Conference.

 

[Phoenall]

What did I post that is incorrect?

There is an armistice line between Israel and Lebanon

There is an armistice line between Israel and Syria

There is an INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED border between Israel and Egypt

There is an INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED border between Israel and Jordan

Palestine has refused to take part in peace talks repeatedly

Syria has refused to take part in peace talks repeatedly

That is why the west bank is occupied under International Law and will stay that way until peace has been agreed

You are ducking the question. You only mentioned two of my points and got both of them wrong.

Nope the borders are by mutual agreement and as such are Internationally recognised, the rest of your post was bullcrap and LIES.

 

[Phoenall]

Abbas says he won't make concessions on Jerusalem

I think this good

Then he will get no concessions on Jerusalem either, and will end up with nothing

 

[pbel]

I really dont know what planet you are living on. How can anyone say that Israel should offer to go back to the 67 borders? Its never going to happen and you know it.
Neither is right of return or giving up sovereignty of East Jerusalem.
You need to wake up

Like, I've told you a million times, it will take that for Israeli acceptance by the Islamic world, I know peace will not happen, I predict mutually assured destruction in the future, so does the bible's fables.

Right, of course. The typical if Israel doesnt succumb to the demand of the Palestinians and UN , they will be destroyed. Blah blah blah.

And again, if you really think that the 67 borders will give Israel acceptance, youre either full of shit, or youre underestimating the hatred of the Arab Muslim world.

Why would Israel be succumbing to anything? Sure, her pre-emotive strike against the Arab stick and stone armies produced an illegal occupation that everyone on this planet recognizes as un-just...

If Israel wants acceptance as a legitimate state she must withdraw from her conquering ways, we are in the 21 century not the 19th!

 

[toastman]

Like, I've told you a million times, it will take that for Israeli acceptance by the Islamic world, I know peace will not happen, I predict mutually assured destruction in the future, so does the bible's fables.

Right, of course. The typical if Israel doesnt succumb to the demand of the Palestinians and UN , they will be destroyed. Blah blah blah.

And again, if you really think that the 67 borders will give Israel acceptance, youre either full of shit, or youre underestimating the hatred of the Arab Muslim world.

Why would Israel be succumbing to anything? Sure, her pre-emotive strike against the Arab stick and stone armies produced an illegal occupation that everyone on this planet recognizes as un-just...

If Israel wants acceptance as a legitimate state she must withdraw from her conquering ways, we are in the 21 century not the 19th!

They took the West Bank from Jordan after theh attacked Israel, not the other way around. Get your facts straight and stop lying

 

[pbel]

Right, of course. The typical if Israel doesnt succumb to the demand of the Palestinians and UN , they will be destroyed. Blah blah blah.

And again, if you really think that the 67 borders will give Israel acceptance, youre either full of shit, or youre underestimating the hatred of the Arab Muslim world.

Why would Israel be succumbing to anything? Sure, her pre-emotive strike against the Arab stick and stone armies produced an illegal occupation that everyone on this planet recognizes as un-just...

If Israel wants acceptance as a legitimate state she must withdraw from her conquering ways, we are in the 21 century not the 19th!

They took the West Bank from Jordan after theh attacked Israel, not the other way around. Get your facts straight and stop lying

I think you ought to stop finagling the truth...A War was started by Israel not Jordan...

 

[toastman]

Firing th first shot is not starting the war.
Also, Jordan attacked Israel, when Jordan was not part of the war. So stop lying

 

[Billo_Really]

That's funny... you are perceived in much the same way, in many quarters.

WTF are you talking about?

As persons go, I'm pretty kick-ass!

 

[Kondor3]

"...I think you ought to stop finagling the truth...A War was started by Israel not Jordan..."

Multiple Muslim-Arab neighbor-states of Israel acted upon faulty Soviet intelligence and declared general mobilizations and forward-deployed troops and war-assets along the borders of Israel in numbers sufficient to invade on a moment's notice.

Israel, in response, mobilized, and quickly undertook preemptive strikes at Muslim-Arab air force and other assets and targets, to ensure air superiority and to damage those assets before they could be used, in fulfillment of Nassar's public declaration of intent to attack.

Jordan was not attacked by Israel, nor was the West Bank, on Day One of the 1967 Six-Day War; as a matter of fact, the Israeli government pleaded with the Jordanians not do join in the attack.

Jordan chose to ignore those pleas and attacked Israel on Day Two, regardless.

The Israelis then proceeded to kick the Jordanians' asses and took the West Bank and Jerusalem away from them as Spoils of War.

Vae victus.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"...I think you ought to stop finagling the truth...A War was started by Israel not Jordan..."

Multiple Muslim-Arab neighbor-states of Israel acted upon faulty Soviet intelligence and declared general mobilizations and forward-deployed troops and war-assets along the borders of Israel in numbers sufficient to invade on a moment's notice.

Israel, in response, mobilized, and quickly undertook preemptive strikes at Muslim-Arab air force and other assets and targets, to ensure air superiority and to damage those assets before they could be used, in fulfillment of Nassar's public declaration of intent to attack.

Jordan was not attacked by Israel, nor was the West Bank, on Day One of the 1967 Six-Day War; as a matter of fact, the Israeli government pleaded with the Jordanians not do join in the attack.

Jordan chose to ignore those pleas and attacked Israel on Day Two, regardless.

The Israelis then proceeded to kick the Jordanians' asses and took the West Bank and Jerusalem away from them as Spoils of War.

Vae victus.

The only problem with your assessment is that Jordan never legally annexed the West Bank. It said it did and it acted like it did but the rest of the world said no.

It was occupied Palestinian territory under Jordan and it is still occupied territory under Israel. The world still calls it Occupied Palestinian territory.

Even if Jordan lost the war the West Bank was not theirs to lose.

 

[pbel]

"...I think you ought to stop finagling the truth...A War was started by Israel not Jordan..."

Multiple Muslim-Arab neighbor-states of Israel acted upon faulty Soviet intelligence and declared general mobilizations and forward-deployed troops and war-assets along the borders of Israel in numbers sufficient to invade on a moment's notice.

Israel, in response, mobilized, and quickly undertook preemptive strikes at Muslim-Arab air force and other assets and targets, to ensure air superiority and to damage those assets before they could be used, in fulfillment of Nassar's public declaration of intent to attack.

Jordan was not attacked by Israel, nor was the West Bank, on Day One of the 1967 Six-Day War; as a matter of fact, the Israeli government pleaded with the Jordanians not do join in the attack.

Jordan chose to ignore those pleas and attacked Israel on Day Two, regardless.

The Israelis then proceeded to kick the Jordanians' asses and took the West Bank and Jerusalem away from them as Spoils of War.

Vae victus.

Pomp Victus das ass, no-ne has surrendered to Israel to date, and to make matters worse, not even her closest Allies recognize her Victus, she is basically de-legitimizing her-self as we speak..

 

[pbel]

Firing th first shot is not starting the war.
Also, Jordan attacked Israel, when Jordan was not part of the war. So stop lying

Back up your words with a link from an accepted neutral encyclopedia, finagling is not truth.

 

[Phoenall]

Why would Israel be succumbing to anything? Sure, her pre-emotive strike against the Arab stick and stone armies produced an illegal occupation that everyone on this planet recognizes as un-just...

If Israel wants acceptance as a legitimate state she must withdraw from her conquering ways, we are in the 21 century not the 19th!

They took the West Bank from Jordan after theh attacked Israel, not the other way around. Get your facts straight and stop lying

I think you ought to stop finagling the truth...A War was started by Israel not Jordan...

You are the one that is wrong as the war started when Mohamed mass murdered the Jewish tribe in medina when they refused to throw themselves on the floor and worship him as God. So he placed eternal war and bloodshed in the Koran and it is practised to this day.

 

[Phoenall]

That's funny... you are perceived in much the same way, in many quarters.

WTF are you talking about?

As persons go, I'm pretty kick-ass!

Problem is many got your ass and your face mixed up didn't they

 

[Kondor3]

"...I think you ought to stop finagling the truth...A War was started by Israel not Jordan..."

Multiple Muslim-Arab neighbor-states of Israel acted upon faulty Soviet intelligence and declared general mobilizations and forward-deployed troops and war-assets along the borders of Israel in numbers sufficient to invade on a moment's notice.

Israel, in response, mobilized, and quickly undertook preemptive strikes at Muslim-Arab air force and other assets and targets, to ensure air superiority and to damage those assets before they could be used, in fulfillment of Nassar's public declaration of intent to attack.

Jordan was not attacked by Israel, nor was the West Bank, on Day One of the 1967 Six-Day War; as a matter of fact, the Israeli government pleaded with the Jordanians not do join in the attack.

Jordan chose to ignore those pleas and attacked Israel on Day Two, regardless.

The Israelis then proceeded to kick the Jordanians' asses and took the West Bank and Jerusalem away from them as Spoils of War.

Vae victus.

The only problem with your assessment is that Jordan never legally annexed the West Bank. It said it did and it acted like it did but the rest of the world said no.

It was occupied Palestinian territory under Jordan and it is still occupied territory under Israel. The world still calls it Occupied Palestinian territory.

Even if Jordan lost the war the West Bank was not theirs to lose.

Tinny, you're dealing with the difference between Paper Law and the Real World.

 

[Phoenall]

"...I think you ought to stop finagling the truth...A War was started by Israel not Jordan..."

Multiple Muslim-Arab neighbor-states of Israel acted upon faulty Soviet intelligence and declared general mobilizations and forward-deployed troops and war-assets along the borders of Israel in numbers sufficient to invade on a moment's notice.

Israel, in response, mobilized, and quickly undertook preemptive strikes at Muslim-Arab air force and other assets and targets, to ensure air superiority and to damage those assets before they could be used, in fulfillment of Nassar's public declaration of intent to attack.

Jordan was not attacked by Israel, nor was the West Bank, on Day One of the 1967 Six-Day War; as a matter of fact, the Israeli government pleaded with the Jordanians not do join in the attack.

Jordan chose to ignore those pleas and attacked Israel on Day Two, regardless.

The Israelis then proceeded to kick the Jordanians' asses and took the West Bank and Jerusalem away from them as Spoils of War.

Vae victus.

The only problem with your assessment is that Jordan never legally annexed the West Bank. It said it did and it acted like it did but the rest of the world said no.

It was occupied Palestinian territory under Jordan and it is still occupied territory under Israel. The world still calls it Occupied Palestinian territory.

Even if Jordan lost the war the West Bank was not theirs to lose.

So not theirs to give away either to the Palestinians. So they have only gaza left then

 

[toastman]

Firing th first shot is not starting the war.
Also, Jordan attacked Israel, when Jordan was not part of the war. So stop lying

Back up your words with a link from an accepted neutral encyclopedia, finagling is not truth.

You need a link to tell you that Jordan attacked Israel first?

How do yoh not know these facts?

 

[Kondor3]

"...I think you ought to stop finagling the truth...A War was started by Israel not Jordan..."

Multiple Muslim-Arab neighbor-states of Israel acted upon faulty Soviet intelligence and declared general mobilizations and forward-deployed troops and war-assets along the borders of Israel in numbers sufficient to invade on a moment's notice.

Israel, in response, mobilized, and quickly undertook preemptive strikes at Muslim-Arab air force and other assets and targets, to ensure air superiority and to damage those assets before they could be used, in fulfillment of Nassar's public declaration of intent to attack.

Jordan was not attacked by Israel, nor was the West Bank, on Day One of the 1967 Six-Day War; as a matter of fact, the Israeli government pleaded with the Jordanians not do join in the attack.

Jordan chose to ignore those pleas and attacked Israel on Day Two, regardless.

The Israelis then proceeded to kick the Jordanians' asses and took the West Bank and Jerusalem away from them as Spoils of War.

Vae victus.

Pomp Victus das ass, no-ne has surrendered to Israel to date...

Nobody had to surrender to Israel.

The Jordanians merely had to obey the laws of gravity and to fall down in 1967 when the Israelis killed them.

The Jordanians merely had to run in 1967 when the Israelis drove them out.

The Palestinians merely had to stop resisting effectively, militarily, alongside the Jordanians in 1967, when the Israelis overwhelmed them.

Surrender is a minor point and of no particular consequence.

Overarching control is all that matters.

And Israel has overarching control... and has... since 1967.

"...and to make matters worse, not even her closest Allies recognize her Victus..."

Doesn't matter, so long as Israel does.

"...she is basically de-legitimizing her-self as we speak."

Golly-gosh gee-whiz, Emmy Lou, as bad as all that? Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Somehow, I don't think they're overly worried about such things.

We've got their back... Obumble or no.

 

[pbel]

Multiple Muslim-Arab neighbor-states of Israel acted upon faulty Soviet intelligence and declared general mobilizations and forward-deployed troops and war-assets along the borders of Israel in numbers sufficient to invade on a moment's notice.

Israel, in response, mobilized, and quickly undertook preemptive strikes at Muslim-Arab air force and other assets and targets, to ensure air superiority and to damage those assets before they could be used, in fulfillment of Nassar's public declaration of intent to attack.

Jordan was not attacked by Israel, nor was the West Bank, on Day One of the 1967 Six-Day War; as a matter of fact, the Israeli government pleaded with the Jordanians not do join in the attack.

Jordan chose to ignore those pleas and attacked Israel on Day Two, regardless.

The Israelis then proceeded to kick the Jordanians' asses and took the West Bank and Jerusalem away from them as Spoils of War.

Vae victus.

Pomp Victus das ass, no-ne has surrendered to Israel to date...

Nobody had to surrender to Israel.

The Jordanians merely had to obey the laws of gravity and to fall down in 1967 when the Israelis killed them.

The Jordanians merely had to run in 1967 when the Israelis drove them out.

The Palestinians merely had to stop resisting effectively, militarily, alongside the Jordanians in 1967, when the Israelis overwhelmed them.

Surrender is a minor point and of no particular consequence.

Overarching control is all that matters.

And Israel has overarching control... and has... since 1967.

"...and to make matters worse, not even her closest Allies recognize her Victus..."

Doesn't matter, so long as Israel does.

"...she is basically de-legitimizing her-self as we speak."

Golly-gosh gee-whiz, Emmy Lou, as bad as all that? Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Somehow, I don't think they're overly worried about such things.
We've got their back... Obumble or no.

PressTV - Israel worries US boycott could go contagious

Israel has expressed alarm over a boycott of its academic institutions by a powerful group of American scholars, saying other academic organizations in the United States could take similar action. On Sunday, the American Studies Association (ASA), which has nearly 5,000 members, approved the academic boycott of Israel to protest its treatment of Palestinians, indicating that a movement to isolate the apartheid regime of Israel that is gaining momentum in Europe has also hit the US.

"The ASA condemns the United States' significant role in aiding and abetting Israel's violations of human rights against Palestinians and its occupation of Palestinian lands through its use of the veto in the UN Security Council," the organization said in a statement explaining the endorsement.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Pomp Victus das ass, no-ne has surrendered to Israel to date...

Nobody had to surrender to Israel.

The Jordanians merely had to obey the laws of gravity and to fall down in 1967 when the Israelis killed them.

The Jordanians merely had to run in 1967 when the Israelis drove them out.

The Palestinians merely had to stop resisting effectively, militarily, alongside the Jordanians in 1967, when the Israelis overwhelmed them.

Surrender is a minor point and of no particular consequence.

Overarching control is all that matters.

And Israel has overarching control... and has... since 1967.


Doesn't matter, so long as Israel does.

"...she is basically de-legitimizing her-self as we speak."

Golly-gosh gee-whiz, Emmy Lou, as bad as all that? Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Somehow, I don't think they're overly worried about such things.
We've got their back... Obumble or no.

PressTV - Israel worries US boycott could go contagious

Israel has expressed alarm over a boycott of its academic institutions by a powerful group of American scholars, saying other academic organizations in the United States could take similar action. On Sunday, the American Studies Association (ASA), which has nearly 5,000 members, approved the academic boycott of Israel to protest its treatment of Palestinians, indicating that a movement to isolate the apartheid regime of Israel that is gaining momentum in Europe has also hit the US.

"The ASA condemns the United States' significant role in aiding and abetting Israel's violations of human rights against Palestinians and its occupation of Palestinian lands through its use of the veto in the UN Security Council," the organization said in a statement explaining the endorsement.

Nearly three months old article. Have you anything more recent?