I was an Exxon-Funded climate scientist

[Billo_Really]

With all due respect...

"a peer-reviewed study published August 23 has confirmed that what Exxon was saying internally about climate change was quantitatively very different from their public statements. Specifically, researchers Geoffrey Supran and Naomi Oreskes found that at least 80 percent of the internal documents and peer-reviewed publications they studied from between 1977 and 2014 were consistent with the state of the science – acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans, and identifying “reasonable uncertainties” that any climate scientist would agree with at the time. Yet over 80 percent of Exxon’s editorial-style paid advertisements over the same period specifically focused on uncertainty and doubt, the study found." - Katharine Hayhoe
​

Well, what do we have here? What we have, is a view from the dark side. An inside look at the elephant in the room. Which is certain people (who deny global warming is caused by humans), are nothing but fossil fuel industry shills, doing their bidding with bullshit modeling claims and other non-sense.

 

[fncceo]

I get SO much money from Exxon ... it's awesome!

 

[Billo_Really]

I get SO much money from Exxon ... it's awesome!

And what that money pays for...

 

[gipper]

Are you aware that many central governments around the world, fund climate scientists?

Does this bother you in any way?

 

[fncceo]

And what that money pays for...

Gold plated test tubes and angora lab rats.

 

[skookerasbil]

duh........people have known this for decades.

Nobody cares s0n!!

 

[Billy_Bob]

With all due respect...

"a peer-reviewed study published August 23 has confirmed that what Exxon was saying internally about climate change was quantitatively very different from their public statements. Specifically, researchers Geoffrey Supran and Naomi Oreskes found that at least 80 percent of the internal documents and peer-reviewed publications they studied from between 1977 and 2014 were consistent with the state of the science – acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans, and identifying “reasonable uncertainties” that any climate scientist would agree with at the time. Yet over 80 percent of Exxon’s editorial-style paid advertisements over the same period specifically focused on uncertainty and doubt, the study found." - Katharine Hayhoe
​

Well, what do we have here? What we have, is a view from the dark side. An inside look at the elephant in the room. Which is certain people (who deny global warming is caused by humans), are nothing but fossil fuel industry shills, doing their bidding with bullshit modeling claims and other non-sense.

The interesting thing about ExXon's work is they are closer to reality than the IPCC ever was.(exaggerating it by a factor of 10 or so). Now the likes of activists like Oreskes are shown to be unintelligent fools because the facts show them to be... AND THEY MISSED IT! LOL...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

With all due respect...

"a peer-reviewed study published August 23 has confirmed that what Exxon was saying internally about climate change was quantitatively very different from their public statements. Specifically, researchers Geoffrey Supran and Naomi Oreskes found that at least 80 percent of the internal documents and peer-reviewed publications they studied from between 1977 and 2014 were consistent with the state of the science – acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans, and identifying “reasonable uncertainties” that any climate scientist would agree with at the time. Yet over 80 percent of Exxon’s editorial-style paid advertisements over the same period specifically focused on uncertainty and doubt, the study found." - Katharine Hayhoe
​

Well, what do we have here? What we have, is a view from the dark side. An inside look at the elephant in the room. Which is certain people (who deny global warming is caused by humans), are nothing but fossil fuel industry shills, doing their bidding with bullshit modeling claims and other non-sense.

acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans,

Oh no! Quick, let's spend trillions to power our modern economy with windmills!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

With all due respect...

"a peer-reviewed study published August 23 has confirmed that what Exxon was saying internally about climate change was quantitatively very different from their public statements. Specifically, researchers Geoffrey Supran and Naomi Oreskes found that at least 80 percent of the internal documents and peer-reviewed publications they studied from between 1977 and 2014 were consistent with the state of the science – acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans, and identifying “reasonable uncertainties” that any climate scientist would agree with at the time. Yet over 80 percent of Exxon’s editorial-style paid advertisements over the same period specifically focused on uncertainty and doubt, the study found." - Katharine Hayhoe
​

Well, what do we have here? What we have, is a view from the dark side. An inside look at the elephant in the room. Which is certain people (who deny global warming is caused by humans), are nothing but fossil fuel industry shills, doing their bidding with bullshit modeling claims and other non-sense.

One side has been caught "adjusting" the data, hiding the decline, and has a 97% Fail Rate on their "predictions" and it's not the skeptics

 

[Luddly Neddite]

With all due respect...

"a peer-reviewed study published August 23 has confirmed that what Exxon was saying internally about climate change was quantitatively very different from their public statements. Specifically, researchers Geoffrey Supran and Naomi Oreskes found that at least 80 percent of the internal documents and peer-reviewed publications they studied from between 1977 and 2014 were consistent with the state of the science – acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans, and identifying “reasonable uncertainties” that any climate scientist would agree with at the time. Yet over 80 percent of Exxon’s editorial-style paid advertisements over the same period specifically focused on uncertainty and doubt, the study found." - Katharine Hayhoe
​

Well, what do we have here? What we have, is a view from the dark side. An inside look at the elephant in the room. Which is certain people (who deny global warming is caused by humans), are nothing but fossil fuel industry shills, doing their bidding with bullshit modeling claims and other non-sense.

The part of this that is an enormous and incredibly sad mystery is why anyone would put money and ideology ahead of the welfare of family, country and planet.

 

[fncceo]

ahead of the welfare of family, country and planet

Because allowing the unbridled expansion of government to occur in response to a manufactured emergency is in the very worst interest of all families, all countries, and the planet.

 

[gipper]

ahead of the welfare of family, country and planet

Because allowing the unbridled expansion of government to occur in response to a manufactured emergency is in the very worst interest of all families, all countries, and the planet.

Exactly.

How is it that some can't see that AGW is all about growing the power and wealth of government? How can anyone be so blind?

 

[Billy_Bob]

ahead of the welfare of family, country and planet

Because allowing the unbridled expansion of government to occur in response to a manufactured emergency is in the very worst interest of all families, all countries, and the planet.

Exactly.

How is it that some can't see that AGW is all about growing the power and wealth of government? How can anyone be so blind?

Do you have to ask? Useful idiots all have a common position..

 

[Billo_Really]

acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans,

Oh no! Quick, let's spend trillions to power our modern economy with windmills!

Hey, sustainable energy is a big industry and provides more jobs than coal or oil does.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans,

Oh no! Quick, let's spend trillions to power our modern economy with windmills!

Hey, sustainable energy is a big industry and provides more jobs than coal or oil does.

sustainable energy is a big industry and provides more jobs than coal or oil does

Don't think I haven't noticed the low productivity associated with sustainable energy.

 

[Billy_Bob]

acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans,

Oh no! Quick, let's spend trillions to power our modern economy with windmills!

Hey, sustainable energy is a big industry and provides more jobs than coal or oil does.

Got any facts to back that BS up?

 

[Old Rocks]

acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans,

Oh no! Quick, let's spend trillions to power our modern economy with windmills!

Hey, sustainable energy is a big industry and provides more jobs than coal or oil does.

Got any facts to back that BS up?

LOL

US wind power jobs hit record, up 20 percent in 2016
‘Wind rush’ fuels hiring boom, delivers more consumer savings
April 12, 2016

DENVER, April 12, 2016 — American wind power supported a record 88,000 jobs at the start of 2016—an increase of 20 percent in a year—according to the U.S. Wind Industry Annual Market Report, Year Ending 2015, released today by the American Wind Energy Association (AWEA). Strong job growth coincided with wind ranking number one as America’s leading source of new generating capacity last year, outpacing solar and natural gas.
US wind power jobs hit record, up 20 percent in 2016

President Trump may be focused on saving coal miners, but solar continues to be the hot spot in today's jobs market.
Solar employment expanded last year 17 times faster than the total US economy, according to an International Renewable Energy Agency report published on Wednesday that cited data from the Solar Foundation.


Overall, more than 260,000 people work in the solar industry, up by 24% from 2015.
Solar jobs growing 17 times faster than US economy

The entire coal industry employs fewer people than Arby’s

The chief executive of the nation's largest privately held coal operation told the Guardian earlier this monththat Trump “can't bring back.”

Another largely overlooked point about coal jobs is that there just aren't that many of them relative to other industries. There are various estimates of coal-sector employment, but according to the Census Bureau's County Business Patterns program, which allows for detailed comparisons with many other industries, the coal industry employed 76,572 people in 2014, the latest year for which data is available.

That number includes not just miners but also office workers, sales staff and all of the other individuals who work at coal-mining companies.

Although 76,000 might seem like a large number, consider that similar numbers of people are employed by, say, the bowling (69,088) and skiing (75,036) industries. Other dwindling industries, such as travel agencies (99,888 people), employ considerably more. Used-car dealerships provide 138,000 jobs. Theme parks provide nearly 144,000. Carwash employment tops 150,000.
Analysis | The entire coal industry employs fewer people than Arby’s

And the coal industry will continue to shrink for a lack of use for the product.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans,

Oh no! Quick, let's spend trillions to power our modern economy with windmills!

Hey, sustainable energy is a big industry and provides more jobs than coal or oil does.

Got any facts to back that BS up?

LOL

US wind power jobs hit record, up 20 percent in 2016
‘Wind rush’ fuels hiring boom, delivers more consumer savings
April 12, 2016

DENVER, April 12, 2016 — American wind power supported a record 88,000 jobs at the start of 2016—an increase of 20 percent in a year—according to the U.S. Wind Industry Annual Market Report, Year Ending 2015, released today by the American Wind Energy Association (AWEA). Strong job growth coincided with wind ranking number one as America’s leading source of new generating capacity last year, outpacing solar and natural gas.
US wind power jobs hit record, up 20 percent in 2016

President Trump may be focused on saving coal miners, but solar continues to be the hot spot in today's jobs market.
Solar employment expanded last year 17 times faster than the total US economy, according to an International Renewable Energy Agency report published on Wednesday that cited data from the Solar Foundation.


Overall, more than 260,000 people work in the solar industry, up by 24% from 2015.
Solar jobs growing 17 times faster than US economy

The entire coal industry employs fewer people than Arby’s

The chief executive of the nation's largest privately held coal operation told the Guardian earlier this monththat Trump “can't bring back.”

Another largely overlooked point about coal jobs is that there just aren't that many of them relative to other industries. There are various estimates of coal-sector employment, but according to the Census Bureau's County Business Patterns program, which allows for detailed comparisons with many other industries, the coal industry employed 76,572 people in 2014, the latest year for which data is available.

That number includes not just miners but also office workers, sales staff and all of the other individuals who work at coal-mining companies.

Although 76,000 might seem like a large number, consider that similar numbers of people are employed by, say, the bowling (69,088) and skiing (75,036) industries. Other dwindling industries, such as travel agencies (99,888 people), employ considerably more. Used-car dealerships provide 138,000 jobs. Theme parks provide nearly 144,000. Carwash employment tops 150,000.
Analysis | The entire coal industry employs fewer people than Arby’s

And the coal industry will continue to shrink for a lack of use for the product.

There are various estimates of coal-sector employment, but according to the Census Bureau's County Business Patterns program, which allows for detailed comparisons with many other industries, the coal industry employed 76,572 people in 2014, the latest year for which data is available.

76,572 people and coal generated nearly 39% of US electricity.

Pretty darn productive.

Wind power is produced by converting wind energy into electricity with wind turbines. Electricity generation from wind has increased significantly in the United States since 1970. In 2016, wind power provided almost 6% of U.S. electricity generation (about 37% of electricity generation from renewable energy).


Solar power is produced with energy from the sun. Photovoltaic (PV) and solar-thermal power are the two main types of technologies used to convert solar energy to electricity. PV conversion produces electricity directly from sunlight in a photovoltaic (solar) cell. Solar-thermal power generators concentrate solar energy to heat a fluid and produce steam to drive turbines. In 2016, about 1% of U.S. electricity generation was from solar energy.

Electricity in the United States - Energy Explained, Your Guide To Understanding Energy - Energy Information Administration

Overall, more than 260,000 people work in the solar industry, up by 24% from 2015.

260,000 people to generate about 1%?
Not very productive.

 

[fncceo]

260,000 people to generate about 1%?
Not very productive.

Corporate welfare for hippies ...

Like farm subsidies for pot farmers.

 

[bripat9643]

acknowledging that climate change is real and caused by humans,

Oh no! Quick, let's spend trillions to power our modern economy with windmills!

Hey, sustainable energy is a big industry and provides more jobs than coal or oil does.

Got any facts to back that BS up?

LOL

US wind power jobs hit record, up 20 percent in 2016
‘Wind rush’ fuels hiring boom, delivers more consumer savings
April 12, 2016

DENVER, April 12, 2016 — American wind power supported a record 88,000 jobs at the start of 2016—an increase of 20 percent in a year—according to the U.S. Wind Industry Annual Market Report, Year Ending 2015, released today by the American Wind Energy Association (AWEA). Strong job growth coincided with wind ranking number one as America’s leading source of new generating capacity last year, outpacing solar and natural gas.
US wind power jobs hit record, up 20 percent in 2016

President Trump may be focused on saving coal miners, but solar continues to be the hot spot in today's jobs market.
Solar employment expanded last year 17 times faster than the total US economy, according to an International Renewable Energy Agency report published on Wednesday that cited data from the Solar Foundation.


Overall, more than 260,000 people work in the solar industry, up by 24% from 2015.
Solar jobs growing 17 times faster than US economy

The entire coal industry employs fewer people than Arby’s

The chief executive of the nation's largest privately held coal operation told the Guardian earlier this monththat Trump “can't bring back.”

Another largely overlooked point about coal jobs is that there just aren't that many of them relative to other industries. There are various estimates of coal-sector employment, but according to the Census Bureau's County Business Patterns program, which allows for detailed comparisons with many other industries, the coal industry employed 76,572 people in 2014, the latest year for which data is available.

That number includes not just miners but also office workers, sales staff and all of the other individuals who work at coal-mining companies.

Although 76,000 might seem like a large number, consider that similar numbers of people are employed by, say, the bowling (69,088) and skiing (75,036) industries. Other dwindling industries, such as travel agencies (99,888 people), employ considerably more. Used-car dealerships provide 138,000 jobs. Theme parks provide nearly 144,000. Carwash employment tops 150,000.
Analysis | The entire coal industry employs fewer people than Arby’s

And the coal industry will continue to shrink for a lack of use for the product.

There are various estimates of coal-sector employment, but according to the Census Bureau's County Business Patterns program, which allows for detailed comparisons with many other industries, the coal industry employed 76,572 people in 2014, the latest year for which data is available.

76,572 people and coal generated nearly 39% of US electricity.

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Pretty darn productive.

Wind power is produced by converting wind energy into electricity with wind turbines. Electricity generation from wind has increased significantly in the United States since 1970. In 2016, wind power provided almost 6% of U.S. electricity generation (about 37% of electricity generation from renewable energy).


Solar power is produced with energy from the sun. Photovoltaic (PV) and solar-thermal power are the two main types of technologies used to convert solar energy to electricity. PV conversion produces electricity directly from sunlight in a photovoltaic (solar) cell. Solar-thermal power generators concentrate solar energy to heat a fluid and produce steam to drive turbines. In 2016, about 1% of U.S. electricity generation was from solar energy.

Electricity in the United States - Energy Explained, Your Guide To Understanding Energy - Energy Information Administration

Overall, more than 260,000 people work in the solar industry, up by 24% from 2015.

260,000 people to generate about 1%?
Not very productive.

The dumbass snowflakes believe the fact that renewable energy takes far more people to produce far less energy is a good thing. It's hard to believe anyone is that stupid.