"I want the world to know that I followed a cult leader."

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It’s hard to get jail time for a crime you were never charged with or convicted of, wouldn’t you agree?

A stupid comment. Obviously Trump is charged with several felonies related to his and his violent mob's attempt to steal the election.

Moving on...

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Not everything available for consumers of news is propaganda. You just need to be informed enough to recognize it when you see it.
If you choose to put a tax break for yourself above the good of the nation you do the country a disservice. But you already knew that.

No, the country does a disservice to it's citizens by blowing trillions on worthless social engineering and endless wars.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why is it that the expensive lawyers have not succeeded with these goofy arguments?

Now state anything hut the obvious. For a larf.

I have not heard one lawyer use coercion as a defense. Probably because to allege coercion would only lead to more coercive conduct. This is an out of control government engaging in tactics of forced confessions that would be worthy of Stalin himself.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I have not heard one lawyer use coercion as a defense.

Excuse you. You didn't say "coercion".

Coercion is only valid when addressing a confession. It's totally irrelevant, and your lane change shows you know what you said was baseless and dumb.

Now grow a pair and address what you actually said. Political prisoners. Political.persecution.

And, go.

And to save you some embarrassment: every single one of their lawyers has attempted to have their charges dismissed as "political in nature only".

But you are going to show us where you could succeed where they have failed.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Excuse you. You didn't say "coercion".

Coercion is only valid when addressing a confession. It's totally irrelevant, and your lane change shows you know what you said was baseless and dumb.

It's what is happening and has happened for years with this totalitarian despotic government.

 

[Woodznutz]

Not everything available for consumers of news is propaganda. You just need to be informed enough to recognize it when you see it.
If you choose to put a tax break for yourself above the good of the nation you do the country a disservice. But you already knew that.

Almost everyone (except me of course) is doing the nation a disservice, most notably the government. No one wastes money, effort, and time like our government. Even the Constitution can't protect us from our own government.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It's what is happening and has happened for years with this totalitarian despotic government.

Another baseless and irrelevant claim.

You're making this pretty easy.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Another baseless and irrelevant claim.

You're making this pretty easy.

Well, you are a lying democrat who will lie about the color of their shit. So nothing you say has any meaning whatsoever.

 

[Woodznutz]

Another baseless and irrelevant claim.

You're making this pretty easy.

Q. Do you know why your representatives have a large wastebasket in their offices.
A. To 'file' grievances sent in by their constituents.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

A stupid comment. Obviously Trump is charged with several felonies related to his and his violent mob's attempt to steal the election.

Moving on...

Hey, why let facts get in the way of your witch hunt narrative.

But yes, moving on from your fiction section…

 

[Mac1958]

I suppose it's old hat now to bring up the cultish nature of Don's supporters.

No other President has had a long line of former fellow party members, ex-staffers, ex-attorneys and former cabinet members come out against him, IN PUBLIC, like this. Not even close. Never, ever.

But his flock is programmed to deny everything and attack all of them with the standard calls of "RINO" and "traitor".

That's when you know there's something seriously wrong with this.

 

[berg80]

No, the country does a disservice to it's citizens by blowing trillions on worthless social engineering and endless wars.

Listen to yourself. Have you forgotten we citizens ARE the country. If we, the majority, don't want to be involved in any more wars we have the power to elect isolationists. Similarly, if we choose to starve the poor or let the sick go untreated we can do that too.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Listen to yourself. Have you forgotten we citizens ARE the country. If we, the majority, don't want to be involved in any more wars we have the power to elect isolationists. Similarly, if we choose to starve the poor or let the sick go untreated we can do that too.

Not if it’s unconstitutional you can’t

This isn’t mob rule

 

[berg80]

No other President has had a long line of former fellow party members, ex-staffers, ex-attorneys and former cabinet members come out against him, IN PUBLIC, like this. Not even close. Never, ever.

But his flock is programmed to deny everything and attack all of them with the standard calls of "RINO" and "traitor".

That's when you know there's something seriously wrong with this.

You're preaching to the choir my friend. I agree. It's just nothing makes trump cultist's eyes roll in to the back of their empty heads like referring to them as a cult. So I thought it was notable to mention what makes Hemphill somewhat unique. Namely, her willingness to acknowledge she was duped, followed by the decision to reject cult-like devotion going forward.

What we need to hope for is something less extreme than time in jail to make the other cult members see the light.

 

[Mac1958]

You're preaching to the choir my friend. I agree. It's just nothing makes trump cultist's eyes roll in to the back of their empty heads like referring to them as a cult. So I thought it was notable to mention what makes Hemphill somewhat unique. Namely, her willingness to acknowledge she was duped, followed by the decision to reject cult-like devotion going forward.

What we need to hope for is something less extreme than time in jail to make the other cult members see the light.

It's known that a cult member has to come to their realization on their own, and that their mind cannot be changed or influenced by outside suggestion.

Assuming that's true, I have to wonder how long it would take for this to organically shrink to a size that fits back on the fringe where it belongs.

Maybe a few more electoral losses might help speed things along, but we can't assume that will happen.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You're preaching to the choir my friend. I agree. It's just nothing makes trump cultist's eyes roll in to the back of their empty heads like referring to them as a cult. So I thought it was notable to mention what makes Hemphill somewhat unique. Namely, her willingness to acknowledge she was duped, followed by the decision to reject cult-like devotion going forward.

What we need to hope for is something less extreme than time in jail to make the other cult members see the light.

I think it’s eyerolling for anyone to call the opposite presidential candidate a “cult leader”… it holds no weight, either side can give vague reasons as to why. If you don’t like them or their policies, talk about that. Just calling them a cult leader is just lame and boring. There’s no substance

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Listen to yourself. Have you forgotten we citizens ARE the country. If we, the majority, don't want to be involved in any more wars we have the power to elect isolationists. Similarly, if we choose to starve the poor or let the sick go untreated we can do that too.

Yes, we are and we're not electing responsible govt. No, we shouldn't be involved in wars unless we're being invaded.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

My advice, think for yourself

Why. You're now letting a "treasonist insurrectionist" think for you

 

[irosie91]

A stupid comment. Obviously Trump is charged with several felonies related to his and his violent mob's attempt to steal the election.

Moving on...

IMVO (In My Vaunted Opinion) Donald is a victim of SELECTIVE PROSECUTION

 

[j-mac]

Jan. 6 rioter says Trump should face the same fate as those who stormed the Capitol​

REZVANI: Other footage from that day show her advising a crowd to, quote, "occupy the Capitol," according to court documents. Several months later, law enforcement showed up at her door. Hemphill was eventually sentenced to 60 days in jail and three years of probation. She says she looks back on that time with great regret.

HEMPHILL: I want the world to know that I followed a cult leader, and I'm really sorry that I did because I'm really ashamed of it. But it's something I got to forgive myself. But I can't blame me 100% because I was lied to by Trump.

REZVANI: And for that, Hemphill believes Trump deserves to face consequences.

HEMPHILL: The indictment shows me that even if you are one of the most powerful people in the world, that you are still subject to the laws that allow this country to be safe and free.


I suppose it's old hat now to bring up the cultish nature of Don's supporters. What's refreshing about this story is Hemphill's acknowledgement of it. As though, for her, a spell has been broken. Unfortunately, breaking the spell required a jail sentence.

The faster this happens en masse the faster the country can go about the cathartic healing process we need to put an end to trumpery.

We have a real chance to put this dark episode for the country behind us this fall. If enough voters display the wisdom to not re-elect such a malevolent leader as Don he may very well lose his grip on millions of loyal followers. This will be the last time he is the nominee of the former GOP. Meaning it's quite possible congressional Repubs will stop making decisions based on the fear of retribution from his base in the voting booth. His power is founded in his control over his base. What happens if it falters?

If he loses we won't see congressional Repubs show up at his trial dressed like him. Sycophancy will no longer be a prerequisite for good standing as a Repub. Perhaps we won't see them fall in line to block legislation on things like border reform. Rank and file members of the party will no longer need to keep up the charade of the Big Lie. Don stands a very good chance of being convicted in all three criminal trials, adding to his disgrace. Especially if supporters stop paying for his defense. More convictions may influence the way he is seen by the minions as well as restoring faith in the notion he is not above the law.

IOW, the election has a chance to change things for the better in immeasurable ways. It is my fervent hope, as a nation, we still have the good judgement to bring about that change.

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