I Thought They Wanted Us Out Now!

[WillowTree]

Hoshyar Zebari — Iraq's foreign minister says "there is a new world now" because of the global financial crisis and he hopes it won't lead to an immediate withdrawal of the 146,000 American troops in his country.



FOXNews.com - Iraqi FM: Economic Crisis Could Affect U.S. Troops - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

 

[WillowTree]

another liberal myth bites the dust.

 

[HoleInTheVoid]

Bush crashed the economy to goad the Iraqis into keeping their neocon masters[/moonbat]

 

[Alpha1]

Bush crashed the economy to goad the Iraqis into keeping their neocon masters[/moonbat]

Amazing...GW is a freekin' genius....a genius

 

[KittenKoder]

Only because the other threads are not active, this will show why I do not debate for either side on this, they are both right and both wrong:

The PEOPLE in Iraq wanted Saddam out, but their GOVERNMENT didn't.

Once Saddam was removed they both switched positions because the American troups became violent towards everyone. So now the positions are:

PEOPLE: Want the US out, hoping peace will return and they will be allowed to work out their own problems.
GOVERNMENT: Want the US to stay, to use the soldiers to force the people to follow their rule with fear instead of support.

Note: Based on logic from various reports, no stats have been fully compiled by any group because let's face it, statistical groups are paid to make the stats look how they want anyway.

 

[dilloduck]

Once Saddam was removed they both switched positions because the American troups became violent towards everyone.

bullshit

 

[KittenKoder]

bullshit

*rae* Really, I'd post the proof of this but it's not appropriate, very graphic and horribly disturbing, thus I did not keep the link myself. *shudder*

 

[RetiredGySgt]

*rae* Really, I'd post the proof of this but it's not appropriate, very graphic and horribly disturbing, thus I did not keep the link myself. *shudder*

More Bullshit. The people do not want the troops out any more then the Government does. You may want to actually check some blogs of troops that are in or have been IN Iraq.

Ohh wait I forgot, you don't do facts right?

 

[KittenKoder]

More Bullshit. The people do not want the troops out any more then the Government does. You may want to actually check some blogs of troops that are in or have been IN Iraq.

Ohh wait I forgot, you don't do facts right?

Blogs are not fact, they are opinion.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Blogs are not fact, they are opinion.

So is your BULLSHIT claim. But hey nice try.

 

[KittenKoder]

Alright, since you put so much trust in others opinions, here's some 'blogs' from people who have been there:

Dahr Jamail's Weblog
Nasir Khan blog: US Occupation Forces Abuse Iraqi Women
Opposing view: U.S. must end occupation - Opinion - USATODAY.com

Yes, ALL blogs are opinions, none are fact.

 

[KittenKoder]

I COULD find more, but I hate reading the moronic crap and prefer real fact.

 

[WillowTree]

*rae* Really, I'd post the proof of this but it's not appropriate, very graphic and horribly disturbing, thus I did not keep the link myself. *shudder*

ever thought propaganda? photoshopped? manipulated?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Alright, since you put so much trust in others opinions, here's some 'blogs' from people who have been there:

Dahr Jamail's Weblog
Nasir Khan blog: US Occupation Forces Abuse Iraqi Women
Opposing view: U.S. must end occupation - Opinion - USATODAY.com

Yes, ALL blogs are opinions, none are fact.

Ohh I see you have NO trouble finding the ones that say what you want to hear but can not be bothered with the ones from the TROOPS serving over there. You are a dip stick and a dumb shit. Why not just find a Muslim terror site to quote next you moron.

Hating your country is part and parcel of the Democratic party so remind us again how you are just a moderate.

 

[KittenKoder]

Ohh I see you have NO trouble finding the ones that say what you want to hear but can not be bothered with the ones from the TROOPS serving over there. You are a dip stick and a dumb shit. Why not just find a Muslim terror site to quote next you moron.

Hating your country is part and parcel of the Democratic party so remind us again how you are just a moderate.

Just as you have no trouble in finding ones that support your side, it's because it's opinions, and like assholes everyone has one and they ALL stink.

Also, that 'hating America' claim is unamerican, to say it shows you hate the foundations our country was built on.

 

[CA95380]

Just remember the Americans that are still there and pray for their safe return, until they get out of there. Whenever that is going to be.

God Bless Palin's son ... and every other American serving in Iraq. Just bring them all home!

Anderson Cooper 360: Blog Archive - Sarah Palin’s son to Iraq - Security breach? - Blogs from CNN.com

 

[KittenKoder]

ever thought propaganda? photoshopped? manipulated?

It is easier to tell the difference than many think. There are many out there, from both sides of the argument, but when you know what to look for in photo manipulation it's easy to spot the fakes. The one I was talking about was actually used to convict the soldiers in court, so the experts (who are better than me at spotting fakes) also agreed that it was authentic.

 

[dilloduck]

Just as you have no trouble in finding ones that support your side, it's because it's opinions, and like assholes everyone has one and they ALL stink.

Also, that 'hating America' claim is unamerican, to say it shows you hate the foundations our country was built on.

no--it's not. Our country was founded on freedom os speech--he just used his.

 

[HoleInTheVoid]

Koder.

The Nasir blog photos ahve LONG ago been debunked as a porn film.

The fact your website says:

(Please Note: Many of the photographs showing the rape of Iraqi women and the sodomization of Iraqi POW's at the Abu Ghraib prison are now at USA pornographic websites pointing to the possibility of collusion between the depraved US soldiers in the pictures and US based Jewish pornographers. Many of these photographs were also freely disseminated to US occupation forces, perhaps to inflame their nefarious desires and to motivate them to strike out against the Iraqi populace in these perverse ways.)

...should send up so many red flags.

WTF?