I thought I knew, but now I'm not sure.

[theHawk]

Until the era of trumpery, I thought I knew how people would react to the discovery of a vaccine that greatly decreases the chances you could die from a highly infectious virus. The vaccine also having the ability to minimize the most severe of the virus's symptoms. But I was wrong about that.

I would have said with confidence even trumples didn't want to roll the dice on a re-emergence of polio.

Like Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Siri insists he does not want to take vaccines away from anyone who wants them. “You want to get the vaccine — it’s America, a free country.” he told Arizona legislators last year after laying out his concerns about the vaccines for polio and other illnesses. He did not mention the petitions he has lodged on behalf of ICAN with the Food and Drug Administration, asking regulators to withdraw or suspend approval of vaccines not only for polio, but also for hepatitis B.

Mr. Siri is also representing ICAN in petitioning the F.D.A. to “pause distribution” of 13 other vaccines, including combination products that cover tetanus, diphtheria, polio and hepatitis A, until their makers disclose details about aluminum, an ingredient researchers have associated with a small increase in asthma cases.

Kennedy’s Lawyer Has Asked the F.D.A. to Revoke Approval of the Polio Vaccine

Aaron Siri, who specializes in vaccine lawsuits, has been at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s side reviewing candidates for top jobs at the Department of Health and Human Services.

www.nytimes.com

Now I'm not so sure. After all, trumples are all in on the guy nominated to lead HHS who said he doesn't believe any vaccine is safe and effective. Like the man who RFK wants to be lead counsel for HHS, Bob says he doesn't want to take vaccines away from people. But much of his life's work says otherwise. In light of the continued support for the orange enemy of the state after revelations of his plot to steal the 2020 election, I don't think I know what trumples will do next. I'm not sure I want to.

I thought I knew whether trumples liked the idea of having their bank deposits insured up to $250K. Especially given the insurance is paid for by the banks who make money from said deposits. But the idea of ending FDIC insurance is being floated by the guy who has won trumples' hearts. A truly "it ain't broke don't fix it" moment. I get the impression if Dear Leader is for it, trumples are too. Though I'm not sure they know why. I do know why the banks are for it.

Deregulation is upon us and folks on Wall St. are excited about the prospects. Just as they were before the Great Depression, the S&L crisis, and Shrub's Great Recession. Jeff Bezos is so excited he contributed $1M to trump's inauguration. Or maybe that was a payoff to keep the incoming trump admin from going after him and his businesses. As was the $1M contribution made by Mark Zuckerberg. I don't know.

Should we abandon the fight against climate change, "suspend approval for vaccines," abolish the FBI, withdraw from alliances, criminalize dissent, forsake allies, purify the populace, initiate trade wars, trivialize ethics, enrich the rich, give tacit approval to governmental intimidation, elevate the executive branch, and seek to marginalize half the population? Do these things strengthen the nation?

I don't think they do. I would not have thought other Americans did either. But I was wrong about that.

A baby does not need a hepatitis B vaccine, it’s a sexually transmitted disease. Well, maybe babies adopted by homosexuals/trannies, but not babies of normal people.

 

[okfine]

Seems like you want to avoid answering.

Ok, little Lisa. How about ending vaccines for measles, whooping cough, and of course, polio. Tell everyone in the world how smart you are.

 

[Crepitus]

America needs a TDS vaccine.

Yes, tRump Defense Syndrome is a real problem.

 

[berg80]

Well, let's see here....You're denouncing the advent of one broadcaster, Rush Limbaugh, on talk radio, as the problem

Putting aside that's not what I did, Rush had an enormous audience and so the impact of the disinformation he spewed during every show was enormous.

 

[berg80]

A baby does not need a hepatitis B vaccine

Who said they did?

 

[Rawley]

Tribal politics began in earnest after the end of the Fairness Act and the advent of conservative media in the form of right wing talk radio, then Faux, then the explosion on the scene of the internet. "People like me" aren't the ones sustaining it. The media is.

LOL Sad that you only control 95% of the media instead of 100%?

 

[j-mac]

Putting aside that's not what I did, Rush had an enormous audience and so the impact of the disinformation he spewed during every show was enormous.

Why are people like you so scared of opposing opinions?

 

[Billiejeens]

Until the era of trumpery, I thought I knew how people would react to the discovery of a vaccine that greatly decreases the chances you could die from a highly infectious virus. The vaccine also having the ability to minimize the most severe of the virus's symptoms. But I was wrong about that.

I would have said with confidence even trumples didn't want to roll the dice on a re-emergence of polio.

Like Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Siri insists he does not want to take vaccines away from anyone who wants them. “You want to get the vaccine — it’s America, a free country.” he told Arizona legislators last year after laying out his concerns about the vaccines for polio and other illnesses. He did not mention the petitions he has lodged on behalf of ICAN with the Food and Drug Administration, asking regulators to withdraw or suspend approval of vaccines not only for polio, but also for hepatitis B.

Mr. Siri is also representing ICAN in petitioning the F.D.A. to “pause distribution” of 13 other vaccines, including combination products that cover tetanus, diphtheria, polio and hepatitis A, until their makers disclose details about aluminum, an ingredient researchers have associated with a small increase in asthma cases.

Kennedy’s Lawyer Has Asked the F.D.A. to Revoke Approval of the Polio Vaccine

Aaron Siri, who specializes in vaccine lawsuits, has been at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s side reviewing candidates for top jobs at the Department of Health and Human Services.

www.nytimes.com

Now I'm not so sure. After all, trumples are all in on the guy nominated to lead HHS who said he doesn't believe any vaccine is safe and effective. Like the man who RFK wants to be lead counsel for HHS, Bob says he doesn't want to take vaccines away from people. But much of his life's work says otherwise. In light of the continued support for the orange enemy of the state after revelations of his plot to steal the 2020 election, I don't think I know what trumples will do next. I'm not sure I want to.

I thought I knew whether trumples liked the idea of having their bank deposits insured up to $250K. Especially given the insurance is paid for by the banks who make money from said deposits. But the idea of ending FDIC insurance is being floated by the guy who has won trumples' hearts. A truly "it ain't broke don't fix it" moment. I get the impression if Dear Leader is for it, trumples are too. Though I'm not sure they know why. I do know why the banks are for it.

Deregulation is upon us and folks on Wall St. are excited about the prospects. Just as they were before the Great Depression, the S&L crisis, and Shrub's Great Recession. Jeff Bezos is so excited he contributed $1M to trump's inauguration. Or maybe that was a payoff to keep the incoming trump admin from going after him and his businesses. As was the $1M contribution made by Mark Zuckerberg. I don't know.

Should we abandon the fight against climate change, "suspend approval for vaccines," abolish the FBI, withdraw from alliances, criminalize dissent, forsake allies, purify the populace, initiate trade wars, trivialize ethics, enrich the rich, give tacit approval to governmental intimidation, elevate the executive branch, and seek to marginalize half the population? Do these things strengthen the nation?

I don't think they do. I would not have thought other Americans did either. But I was wrong about that.

of a vaccine that greatly decreases the chances you could die from a highly infectious virus. The vaccine also having the ability to minimize the most severe of the virus's symptoms.

There was no such thing.
So, there is that.

 

[Billiejeens]

Why are people like you so scared of opposing opinions?

bergy is in a very tightly controlled echo chamber cult.

 

[22lcidw]

Of all the things you could choose to not trust the government about, vaccine safety is among the least of them.
I don't think RFK has expended all this time and energy over vaccine skepticism to hear himself talk. In any event, it isn't worth the risk to find out which of us is right. The same goes for Baby Donald.

Over and over, we do not trust you. You did this. Caused conflict. Still do. We got a good idea how people react during Covid. The self-importance was oozing out of all the pores of the self-righteous. The test was a success. People will sell each other out, get stupid and violent. And the other shoe on the foot is the dictatorial government enforcing their decrees which will come. Comply or else.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I would have said with confidence even trumples didn't want to roll the dice on a re-emergence of polio.

What they want is to maintain a climate of fear perceived by Republicans as a partisan advantage.

Spread fear about a return of polio and the people are distracted from the fascist right taking away their liberties.

 

[Crepitus]

Putting aside that's not what I did, Rush had an enormous audience and so the impact of the disinformation he spewed during every show was enormous.

He did immense damage to the collective conservative mentality.

 

[Lesh]

Trump couldn’t WAIT to get the vaccine

Same for DeSantis (who pushed all his friends to the front of the line)

What’s wrong with you people?

And now polio??

 

[theHawk]

Who said they did?

The government that “recommends” it on their vaccine schedule for children.

 

[Independent thinker]

Until the era of trumpery, I thought I knew how people would react to the discovery of a vaccine that greatly decreases the chances you could die from a highly infectious virus. The vaccine also having the ability to minimize the most severe of the virus's symptoms. But I was wrong about that.

I would have said with confidence even trumples didn't want to roll the dice on a re-emergence of polio.

Like Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Siri insists he does not want to take vaccines away from anyone who wants them. “You want to get the vaccine — it’s America, a free country.” he told Arizona legislators last year after laying out his concerns about the vaccines for polio and other illnesses. He did not mention the petitions he has lodged on behalf of ICAN with the Food and Drug Administration, asking regulators to withdraw or suspend approval of vaccines not only for polio, but also for hepatitis B.

Mr. Siri is also representing ICAN in petitioning the F.D.A. to “pause distribution” of 13 other vaccines, including combination products that cover tetanus, diphtheria, polio and hepatitis A, until their makers disclose details about aluminum, an ingredient researchers have associated with a small increase in asthma cases.

Kennedy’s Lawyer Has Asked the F.D.A. to Revoke Approval of the Polio Vaccine

Aaron Siri, who specializes in vaccine lawsuits, has been at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s side reviewing candidates for top jobs at the Department of Health and Human Services.

www.nytimes.com

Now I'm not so sure. After all, trumples are all in on the guy nominated to lead HHS who said he doesn't believe any vaccine is safe and effective. Like the man who RFK wants to be lead counsel for HHS, Bob says he doesn't want to take vaccines away from people. But much of his life's work says otherwise. In light of the continued support for the orange enemy of the state after revelations of his plot to steal the 2020 election, I don't think I know what trumples will do next. I'm not sure I want to.

I thought I knew whether trumples liked the idea of having their bank deposits insured up to $250K. Especially given the insurance is paid for by the banks who make money from said deposits. But the idea of ending FDIC insurance is being floated by the guy who has won trumples' hearts. A truly "it ain't broke don't fix it" moment. I get the impression if Dear Leader is for it, trumples are too. Though I'm not sure they know why. I do know why the banks are for it.

Deregulation is upon us and folks on Wall St. are excited about the prospects. Just as they were before the Great Depression, the S&L crisis, and Shrub's Great Recession. Jeff Bezos is so excited he contributed $1M to trump's inauguration. Or maybe that was a payoff to keep the incoming trump admin from going after him and his businesses. As was the $1M contribution made by Mark Zuckerberg. I don't know.

Should we abandon the fight against climate change, "suspend approval for vaccines," abolish the FBI, withdraw from alliances, criminalize dissent, forsake allies, purify the populace, initiate trade wars, trivialize ethics, enrich the rich, give tacit approval to governmental intimidation, elevate the executive branch, and seek to marginalize half the population? Do these things strengthen the nation?

I don't think they do. I would not have thought other Americans did either. But I was wrong about that.

So, you're finally giving Trump credit for the vaccine?

 

[berg80]

Until the era of trumpery, I thought I knew how people would react to the discovery of a vaccine that greatly decreases the chances you could die from a highly infectious virus. The vaccine also having the ability to minimize the most severe of the virus's symptoms. But I was wrong about that.

I would have said with confidence even trumples didn't want to roll the dice on a re-emergence of polio.

Like Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Siri insists he does not want to take vaccines away from anyone who wants them. “You want to get the vaccine — it’s America, a free country.” he told Arizona legislators last year after laying out his concerns about the vaccines for polio and other illnesses. He did not mention the petitions he has lodged on behalf of ICAN with the Food and Drug Administration, asking regulators to withdraw or suspend approval of vaccines not only for polio, but also for hepatitis B.

Mr. Siri is also representing ICAN in petitioning the F.D.A. to “pause distribution” of 13 other vaccines, including combination products that cover tetanus, diphtheria, polio and hepatitis A, until their makers disclose details about aluminum, an ingredient researchers have associated with a small increase in asthma cases.

Kennedy’s Lawyer Has Asked the F.D.A. to Revoke Approval of the Polio Vaccine

Aaron Siri, who specializes in vaccine lawsuits, has been at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s side reviewing candidates for top jobs at the Department of Health and Human Services.

www.nytimes.com

Now I'm not so sure. After all, trumples are all in on the guy nominated to lead HHS who said he doesn't believe any vaccine is safe and effective. Like the man who RFK wants to be lead counsel for HHS, Bob says he doesn't want to take vaccines away from people. But much of his life's work says otherwise. In light of the continued support for the orange enemy of the state after revelations of his plot to steal the 2020 election, I don't think I know what trumples will do next. I'm not sure I want to.

I thought I knew whether trumples liked the idea of having their bank deposits insured up to $250K. Especially given the insurance is paid for by the banks who make money from said deposits. But the idea of ending FDIC insurance is being floated by the guy who has won trumples' hearts. A truly "it ain't broke don't fix it" moment. I get the impression if Dear Leader is for it, trumples are too. Though I'm not sure they know why. I do know why the banks are for it.

Deregulation is upon us and folks on Wall St. are excited about the prospects. Just as they were before the Great Depression, the S&L crisis, and Shrub's Great Recession. Jeff Bezos is so excited he contributed $1M to trump's inauguration. Or maybe that was a payoff to keep the incoming trump admin from going after him and his businesses. As was the $1M contribution made by Mark Zuckerberg. I don't know.

Should we abandon the fight against climate change, "suspend approval for vaccines," abolish the FBI, withdraw from alliances, criminalize dissent, forsake allies, purify the populace, initiate trade wars, trivialize ethics, enrich the rich, give tacit approval to governmental intimidation, elevate the executive branch, and seek to marginalize half the population? Do these things strengthen the nation?

I don't think they do. I would not have thought other Americans did either. But I was wrong about that.

Trump to discuss ending childhood vaccination programs with RFK Jr.​

Dec 12 (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump in an interview published on Thursday said he will be talking to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee to run the Department of Health and Human Services, about ending childhood vaccination programs.
When asked if he would sign off if Kennedy decided to end childhood vaccinations programs, Trump told Time magazine, "we're going to have a big discussion. The autism rate is at a level that nobody ever believed possible. If you look at things that are happening, there's something causing it."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-discuss-ending-childhood-vaccination-programs-with-rfk-jr-2024-12-12/

Awesome. A clownish, orange buffoon and a quack are going to decide which vaccines are available to kids. I'm sure that's exactly what the people who voted for Baby Donald over anger with inflation wanted.

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump to discuss ending childhood vaccination programs with RFK Jr.​

Dec 12 (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Donald Trump in an interview published on Thursday said he will be talking to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee to run the Department of Health and Human Services, about ending childhood vaccination programs.
When asked if he would sign off if Kennedy decided to end childhood vaccinations programs, Trump told Time magazine, "we're going to have a big discussion. The autism rate is at a level that nobody ever believed possible. If you look at things that are happening, there's something causing it."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-discuss-ending-childhood-vaccination-programs-with-rfk-jr-2024-12-12/

Awesome. A clownish, orange buffoon and a quack are going to decide which vaccines are available to kids. I'm sure that's exactly what the people who voted for Baby Donald over anger with inflation wanted.

People who make their living off of autism patients aren't going to like that.

 

[berg80]

What would give me confidence if I were someone who still had kids of an age when vaccinations were appropriate is the highly informed, scientific rigor with which the issue will be discussed as evidenced by........"If you look at things that are happening, there's something causing it."

Vaccine Science and Safety

A Shot of Science Vaccines are among the most significant achievements in public health. Since 1924, childhood vaccinations have prevented more than 100 million cases of serious disease. All vaccines used in the US are required to go through extensive safety testing before they are licensed by...

www.nfid.org

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Who said they did?

the Government

 

[berg80]

Why are people like you so scared of opposing opinions?

I'm not scared. I rather like engaging with people who do not agree with me. But your question conflates holding opposing opinions with believing in alternative facts.

You may like apple pie more than pumpkin pie. That's holding an opinion. You may think trump won the 2020 election. That's believing in an alternative fact. Got it?