I Think It's Time To End This COVID Hysteria: Change My Mind

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Clearly the Dems used a fake pandemic to steal an election. Without the fear they generated to trick people into using mail-in ballots they wouldn't have been able to use Domination software to steal the election in battleground states like PA, AZ, MI, GA, and WI.
Just in case no one pointed this glaring, inconvenient fact out to you yet...

 

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Saying that lets just say it has a 1% death rate (this is unlikely as Ireland has been testing at very high levels and have a death rate of 2.6%). There is also the problem that people get reinfected and it can be very severe the second time.
To reach herd immunity we need 70% of people infected. So lets do those numbers.
329,000,000*.70*.01 = 2,303,000 dead.
Sure --- That's how modelers came up with the giant numbers in the millions early on --- the 2.2 million, the +4 millions. They should have waited to see how it went for awhile. Life isn't pure mathematics.

What with your Irish figures and other stats and my arithmetic, it does look to me like somewhere around 2% --- we won't have a better guess till it's all over, I suppose. That's not as high as some -- smallpox killed a third of everyone, everywhere, always -- but it's definitely not as low as some of the cold viruses. Or even flu.
 

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Critical case rate in US is down to .46%.
Yeah, they've stopped killing everyone with those terrible ventilators --- what a mistake. Tying everyone down and pumping air in and out relentlessly till they die.
 

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Clearly the Dems used a fake pandemic to steal an election. Without the fear they generated to trick people into using mail-in ballots they wouldn't have been able to use Domination software to steal the election in battleground states like PA, AZ, MI, GA, and WI.
Just in case no one pointed this glaring, inconvenient fact out to you yet...

From your link...

In counties that used Dominion systems, Biden got 888,259 votes to Trump’s 851,069. In counties that didn’t use Dominion systems, Biden got 1.54 million votes to Trump’s 1.52 million. In other words, if you eliminated every county that used Dominion systems, Biden still got more votes.
 
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Clearly the Dems used a fake pandemic to steal an election. Without the fear they generated to trick people into using mail-in ballots they wouldn't have been able to use Domination software to steal the election in battleground states like PA, AZ, MI, GA, and WI.
Just in case no one pointed this glaring, inconvenient fact out to you yet...

And you actually believe anything the Washington Compost publishes.......after all of the lies they've been spreading around?
 

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You'd have to have a mind to be able to change one.

If you think a quarter of a million deaths and climbing is acceptable....you're seriously not worth the effort.

And the scientists at Johns Hopkins said the vast majority of deaths have been the very old and the very sick and death rates for this group are unchanged with Covid. So yeah.....mostly it's a hoax. If Covid didn't kill them something else would have and fairly quickly.

And before you ask look up the link yourself. :D
Then look at the graph on this page
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Now can you explain where the excess deaths are coming from?

If it is not COVID could you please explain?
Mortality rate is 1.9% and falling every day. Tons more testing gives you tons more cases and some of them die like with any disease.

2.0 on the nose... If case numbers continue to rise the Heath System will start to buckle... Some states are already shipping out of state for ICU beds...
I don't see it that way, I think most all the new cases now are few symptoms or asymptomatic altogether. Some areas may have more hospital visitors than usual but I think most of them actually recover at home. Daily deaths to incoming case rate percentages are small and will continue to drive the mortality rate down. And of course cases will continue to rise there are 2 million tests a day being done now.
And the evidence I posted proves you thinking wrong... Sorry but this is real and there are body bags to prove it...

A Dose of Reality: Don’t Let The Numbers Fool You
Some hard numbers:
• Total number of hospitals in the US: 6,146
• Total number of staffed beds in all US hospitals: 924,107
The total number of Covid-positive hospitalizations on November 17 in the entire US: 76,958
• Throughout all of 2020, since Covid hit, the US never exceeded 60k hospitalizations on any given day, until November 10th.
• Patients in hospitals for other reasons are counted as Covid hospitalizations if they test positive
• March 31 total cumulative Covid-positive hospitalizations in the US: 23,725
• April 30 total cumulative Covid-positive hospitalizations in the US: 123,786
• July 31 total cumulative Covid-positive hospitalizations in the US: 308,088
• September 30 total cumulative Covid-positive hospitalizations in the US: 408,649
November 17 total cumulative Covid-positive hospitalizations in the US: 517,471
Does 517,471 hospitalizations for the entire year sound alarming? How about after we remove the fact that over 70% of them recovered? How about after we’ve assessed their actual cause of death since the CDC has stated that only 6% of death certificates indicate that people died from Covid, and the remaining 94% have on average 2.6 comorbidities?
For starters, 49.49% of all Covid-related deaths included pneumonia.
Not to mention, 1 in every 4 deaths in the US are due to heart disease, and 40% of all Covid-related deaths took place in hospice, long-term care facilities, and nursing homes due to other causes.
In 2018, there were 36,251,159 people admitted to hospitals across the US.
In the 2017-2018 Flu season, 810,000 people were hospitalized over the flu.
Did anyone hear a peep about it? Did they flood the airwaves, scaring the nation with messages of hospitals being at full capacity, everyone must wear masks to “save lives,” or that they were short on supplies and ventilators, people were dropping dead everywhere, and the economy needed to shut down?
NO. It was near silent. Over 61,000 people died that flu season.
Hiding The Data
One of the most incredible things happening right before everyone’s eyes, is the subversion of data by the Covid Tracking Project, the CDC, media, and numerous other sources.
Why is this and what are they doing? They use trickery when revealing numbers, so as to manipulate the numbers, and convince everyone that things are far worse than they actually are.

since that november 17th, the hospitalization is up to 100k.

but, what really matters is ICU capacity.
In my state, free ICU capacity is down to 15 percent.
Which means we need to respect the work load of our medical staff and their means to treat those who need intensive care.
 

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That's the nature of Mass Hysteria ... asteroid attacks, climate change, SARS ... end this one and the masses will just find another ...
The hole in the ozone layer. Alar poison. Global cooling. Nuclear winter. Never forget the horse manure crisis of 1894. That was supposed to end civilization.
 

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You'd have to have a mind to be able to change one.

If you think a quarter of a million deaths and climbing is acceptable....you're seriously not worth the effort.
Nothing is going to change his mind except possibly ending up on a ventilator


Certainly not the TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED people that died TODAY

Your link says 932. You better stop them from lying like that.
 

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You'd have to have a mind to be able to change one.

If you think a quarter of a million deaths and climbing is acceptable....you're seriously not worth the effort.
Nothing is going to change his mind except possibly ending up on a ventilator


Certainly not the TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED people that died TODAY

Your link says 932. You better stop them from lying like that.
Your internet is fucked up. Works for me
 

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You'd have to have a mind to be able to change one.

If you think a quarter of a million deaths and climbing is acceptable....you're seriously not worth the effort.
Nothing is going to change his mind except possibly ending up on a ventilator


Certainly not the TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED people that died TODAY

Your link says 932. You better stop them from lying like that.
Your internet is fucked up. Works for me
The internet is fine. It clearly says something different from your fake allegation. Everyone can see that.

There is nothing about democrats that isn't wholly evil.
 

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Clearly the Dems used a fake pandemic to steal an election. Without the fear they generated to trick people into using mail-in ballots they wouldn't have been able to use Domination software to steal the election in battleground states like PA, AZ, MI, GA, and WI.
So the only reason they would have to continue this total farce is if they fully intend on destroying the economy. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is getting tired of this nonsense.


December 2, 2020
Coronavirus Hysteria Is Simply Too Ridiculous to Continue
The ignorance and the lies concerning the Wuhan virus can't continue much longer, because time is simply revealing the truth about it. As we continue to suffer under foolish Wuhan virus restrictions, and as many parts of the U.S. — especially those under the rule of Democrats — are again ramping up the shutdowns and the lockdowns, more and more Americans are beginning to see what many of us have long known: the Wuhan virus data simply don't match the Wuhan virus hysteria. The evidence of this continues to pile up.
As they near the end of the first semester, U.S. schools provide some of the best evidence for those sick of shutdown politics and propaganda. In spite of millions of U.S. students attending in-person classes, nowhere in America are school-aged students suffering in any significant way from the Wuhan virus. And don't tell me about "cases." As I've long noted when it comes to the Wuhan virus, cases without context are meaningless.
Andrew Bostom again provides us with some important context on Wuhan virus cases. As of early October, in spite of nearly seventy thousand reported Wuhan virus "cases" across 50 U.S. colleges and universities, there were only three hospitalizations and zero deaths! Almost certainly, numbers across all of America's K–12 schools are similar. We can be nearly certain that if this were not the case, a media establishment desperate to further the shutdown narrative would tell us so. (The media have already been caught multiple times publishing fake news on this matter.)
Months-old data out of Europe told us that schoolchildren were in little to no danger from the Wuhan virus. As City Journal recently reported:
For young students, the risk of dying from Covid is lower than the risk of dying from the flu, and researchers have repeatedly found that children do not easily transmit the virus to adults. The clearest evidence comes from Sweden, which did not close elementary schools or junior high schools during the spring Covid wave, and which did not reduce class sizes or encourage students and teachers to wear face masks.
Not a single child died, and there was little effect beyond the schools, as a team of Swedish economists reports after analyzing records of Covid infections and medical treatment for the entire Swedish population.
Even Dr. "follow the science" Fauci finally agrees that schoolchildren are not significant spreaders of the Wuhan virus! Yet, in U.S. schools, sporting events continue to get postponed or canceled, and many schools remain in remote learning mode or are threatening to move back in that direction. Again, every instance of this is driven by "cases." Yet the vast majority of students and student-athletes are not getting sick, and if they are, they are certainly not sick to the point of death or even hospitalization. The longer this pandemic propaganda continues, the longer it becomes clear that shutting down schools and athletic events is nothing more than a political stunt perpetuated by leftist authoritarians, or at least an ignorant reaction to the left's Wuhan virus fear mongering.
The same is true for the lockdowns imposed on businesses and churches. As is the case with schools, there is still zero evidence that churches and businesses are in any way significantly complicit in the spread of the Wuhan virus. As RedState reported recently:
[T]here was never a shred of scientific evidence that putting healthy people in quarantine would do anything to ameliorate the spread of COVD-19. Moreover, everything we knew about viruses made the idea of quarantining people who aren't sick completely absurd.
Even the CDC's most recent pandemic planning guide from 2017 admitted that "direct evidence for the effectiveness of these measures is limited." And by "limited" they meant non-existent. There wasn't a single study that supports the idea that quarantining healthy people was going to do a damn thing to stop a virus from spreading.
The European Centre for Disease Control's summary of the research was more honest. They noted that "there are few, if any, empirical data underpinning" the assumptions that workplace closures do anything to stop viruses from spreading. Indeed, they found no evidence for the effectiveness of any social distancing measures.
In spite of the science and the months of real-time data that proved it unnecessary, the left has persisted with shutting down businesses and churches. As a result of these state-enforced lockdowns, hundreds of thousands of small businesses in the U.S. have shut down — many of them permanently.
Data from late September show that between March 1 and August 31, a total of 163,735 businesses on Yelp — which is especially representative of small businesses — closed. According to Yelp, about 60 percent of these businesses (nearly 98,000) will never reopen. The Yelp data reveal that small restaurants and retail stores have been hit particularly hard. It has made zero sense that Walmart, Target, Home Depot — none of whom were requiring masks as late as middle July — and the like have been allowed to remain open, while your local diner, gun store, or gym was forced to close.
"Masks have become a political tool and a talisman. When COVID-19 hit, governments panicked and created enormous fear. The Centers for Disease Control currently estimates a COVID-19 survival rate of 99.99 percent for people younger than 50, but the damage created by the panic was too great to undo.
It is likely that some politicians eventually realized their mistake and needed a way to back-pedal without admitting their lockdowns were a policy disaster. Their solution was for people to put any old piece of cloth across their face and magically believe that it’s okay to go out shopping again.
Masks are not merely a small inconvenience. They have inadvertently become a key impediment to returning to a more normal life, a desirable goal for those seeking to twist the pandemic for political and electoral purposes.
Masks dehumanize us, and ironically serve as a constant reminder that we should be afraid. People can now be spotted wearing masks while camping by themselves in the woods or on a solo sailing trip. They have become a cruel device on young children everywhere, kindergarten students covered by masks and isolated by Plexiglas, struggling to understand the social expressions of their peers. Face coverings are causing real harm to the American psyche, provide little to no medical benefit, and distract us from more important health policy issues."
You have been on target on covid from the get go....I was slow to see the truth and fell into the media's trap....but soon was able to see the truth about covid....
for me i fell for the fear mongering and believed the virus hoax as well until saw videos of doctors coming forward and thats when i woke up that it is indeed a hoax.
 

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