“I think it’s safe to say that many of our faith in the party has never been lower,”

[DonGlock26]

It's was stupid to use signal... I am sure they will not do that again. Having said that of course they want to try to make as big a deal as they can out of it. It occurs to that some legislation is incumbent that would make it a federal offense to pass on information like this even if accidentally received.

If it's a big deal, then the editor of the Atlantic needs to be prosecuted.

 

[Nostra]

Eggs are still to expensive.

But holy shit, discussing war plans on social media, that's just crazy.

Social media?

 

[Nostra]

Sorry, that was on the members of the chat.

Also, I don't remember us declaring war on Yemen. Can you let me know when this was brought in front of Congress?

No war with Yemen? Then there were no “war plans”, Simp.

 

[Mashmont]

He didn't make it public until after the strikes had happened.

This is a colossal fuckup and there's no way you can paint it to make Team Trump look good.

It was only a problem because you had a dishonest leftwinger listening in.

 

[JoeB131]

He published the "war plans" in the Atlantic Magazine.

You mean after Hegseth and Walz sent them to him.

Hey, one you send something to the media, it's not a secret anymore.

 

[JoeB131]

It was only a problem because you had a dishonest leftwinger listening in.

Okay, are you stupid?

He didn't "listen in", he was INVITED to the chat. He didn't even think it was real at first, because it was that level of stupid.

And you don't think this is a problem beyond that, the point is, Signal isn't that secure.

The Chinese, Iranians, and Russians could have been listening in on these chats (and they probably are.)

 

[Mashmont]

Okay, are you stupid?

He didn't "listen in", he was INVITED to the chat. He didn't even think it was real at first, because it was that level of stupid.

And you don't think this is a problem beyond that, the point is, Signal isn't that secure.

The Chinese, Iranians, and Russians could have been listening in on these chats (and they probably are.)

So you're claiming the Chinese and Russians were invited to the chat like this guy was? This fake journalist should have understood he wasn't supposed to be there. He certainly shouldn't have broadcast it to the world, as he was feigning outrage for "secrets" getting out.

 

[JoeB131]

So you're claiming the Chinese and Russians were invited to the chat like this guy was? This fake journalist should have understood he wasn't supposed to be there. He certainly shouldn't have broadcast it to the world, as he was feigning outrage for "secrets" getting out.

No, the Chinese and Russians are actively hacking.

And the Journalist have every right to broadcast that our government was so lax in security. (Also showing the weird inner monologues that go on in the Trump Clown Show.)

 

[Dekster]

The pendulum swings left; the pendulum swings right. It isn't like it matters that much anymore given we are largely in the era of The Battle of the Executive Orders.

 

[DonGlock26]

You mean after Hegseth and Walz sent them to him.

Hey, one you send something to the media, it's not a secret anymore.

It was secret until the editor of the Atlantic released the "war plans" to the enemy.

 

[JoeB131]

It was secret until the editor of the Atlantic released the "war plans" to the enemy.

Well, no, it stopped be a secret when it was sent to Goldberg.

It probably wasn't a secret when it was put on a commercial service like Signal.

 

[DonGlock26]

Well, no, it stopped be a secret when it was sent to Goldberg.

It probably wasn't a secret when it was put on a commercial service like Signal.

Negative. At that point, only the people in the encrypted text message group knew the "war plans".
The editor of the Atlantic then published the "war plans" for the enemy to read.

 

[JoeB131]

Negative. At that point, only the people in the encrypted text message group knew the "war plans".
The editor of the Atlantic then published the "war plans" for the enemy to read.

are you a fucking idiot.

Goldberg was in the "encrypted" group. So it wasn't a secret. Especially since Signal could be easily hacked by foreign actors.

He didn't have a security clearance, he was not a government official.

The bigger problem, of course, is how much the Trump Clown Show is using Signal to avoid the Records Act. That should be the real discussion here.

 

[DonGlock26]

are you a fucking idiot.

Goldberg was in the "encrypted" group. So it wasn't a secret. Especially since Signal could be easily hacked by foreign actors.

He didn't have a security clearance, he was not a government official.

The bigger problem, of course, is how much the Trump Clown Show is using Signal to avoid the Records Act. That should be the real discussion here.

It was known ONLY to the people in the group including Goldberg. He chose to release the "war plans" to the enemy.
What part of the release don't you understand?

 

[JoeB131]

It was known ONLY to the people in the group including Goldberg. He chose to release the "war plans" to the enemy.
What part of the release don't you understand?

Actually, he didn't publish until after the operation.

The criminality here is Team Trump violating the records act by using an unauthorized service that is easily hacked.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It was secret until the editor of the Atlantic released the "war plans" to the enemy.

It was somebody Waltz trusted.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Someone inform Democrats they were defeated, routed, humiliated after America rejected Dems, their dumb ass leaders and their stupid shit policies.

As long as they let Sonny Hostin blather on and on....it's not going to sink in.

 

[Hector12]

"A populist uprising stirs among Democrats furious at their leaders

In dozens of interviews at recent Democratic events, voters said their party leaders need to show a much greater sense of urgency — and develop a plan to stop Trump and Musk.



Democrats are turning up by the thousands at rallies across the country — showing the stirrings of a populist uprising against President Donald Trump’s drastic cuts to government agencies and demanding that their leaders fight harder to save programs that benefit the middle class.

The question now facing the party — which has been in the grips of an identity crisis since November — is whether it can harness that pulsating energy to slow Trump’s agenda at a time when they have so little power. There is no clear Democratic leader. The party’s popularity has crashed to historic lows in recent polls. And there is no consensus on how to win back working-class voters and younger voters who were crucial to Trump’s victory last year.

I was pleased by the large demonstrations against Trump, and more pleased that they were peaceful and orderly.

During the War in Vietnam many anti war demonstrations were violent and disorderly. In my humble opinion those angered many voters, and provoked them to vote for hawks who prolonged the War in Vietnam.

What matters is who turns up for the next election and how they vote. If there are black ghetto riots, I hope Democrats have the sense not to express sympathy for the rioters, as many did in 2020.

 

[JoeB131]

I was pleased by the large demonstrations against Trump, and more pleased that they were peaceful and orderly.

During the War in Vietnam many anti war demonstrations were violent and disorderly. In my humble opinion those angered many voters, and provoked them to vote for hawks who prolonged the War in Vietnam.

What matters is who turns up for the next election and how they vote. If there are black ghetto riots, I hope Democrats have the sense not to express sympathy for the rioters, as many did in 2020.

They won in 2020. Why shouldn't they express sympathy if Trump's policies cause more police misconduct.

The problem in 2024 is that Biden didn't follow through on anything. Which is why a lot of black people just stayed home in 2024.

 

[DonGlock26]

I was pleased by the large demonstrations against Trump,

What large demonstrations?