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I Should Have an AR-15, but not YOU! Gun grabber speaks honestly

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The spec requirements are what they are……
So then a trained soldier can only hit a target with a 5.56 mm round 50% of the time and there is not guarantee of the target being killed
 

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So then a trained soldier can only hit a target with a 5.56 mm round 50% of the time and there is not guarantee of the target being killed
You’re waddling in assumptions and taking it into minutia…..

The military performs a lot of laudable services, from search and rescue to technology that is used to help mankind in general……but it also developed through their contractors, weapons for mass killings. Artillery, nukes, and the AR15/m16 are just some of them.

Why are you promoting and excusing their use by civilians ?
 

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And the military defines effective range as one where a recruit achieves 50% accuracy
And low felt recoil is essential for the task. That’s part of the appeal of the cartridge. Every argument you make brings us back to one thing. the AR15 is a choice of mass killers.
 

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The great majority (like 95%+) of the people killed by gun fire in the US are killed with pistol rounds. 9mm is the most lethal round if you measure the number of people killed.
Thanks for bringing up that high cap 9mm pistols should ALSO be included in firearm regulation.
 

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Wrong again

All any round has to do is injure or incapacitate and that is the desired effect as far as the military is concerned
You’ve come full circle. Have no idea what your point is. Look up the meaning of “lethal”.
 

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Thanks for bringing up that high cap 9mm pistols should ALSO be included in firearm regulation.
The Democrat turds tried that in DC and Chicago and the Supreme Court told them that they couldn't stop Dick Heller and Otis McDonald from having them.

You know, that pesky Bill of Rights thingy that you Libtards hate so much.
 

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The Democrat turds tried that in DC and Chicago and the Supreme Court told them that they couldn't stop Dick Heller and Otis McDonald from having them.

You know, that pesky Bill of Rights thingy that you Libtards hate so much.
Ha ha
i fully agree. Heller was told he could keep a hand gun in his home in a ready condition, ONLY if the fire arm was registered and he was licensed. It seems the SC was satisfied Heller‘s rights were not violated by requiring him to register his hand gun and be permitted which requires a regular back ground check for renewal.

The SC got it right. To this day, registration and licensing is required in DC, just to keep a firearm in the home and unlocked. Ha ha

regulation is the law of the land should any local govt choose to do it.
 

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Ha ha
i fully agree. Heller was told he could keep a hand gun in his home in a ready condition, ONLY if the fire arm was registered and he was licensed. It seems the SC was satisfied Heller‘s rights were not violated by requiring him to register his hand gun and be permitted which requires a regular back ground check for renewal.

The SC got it right. To this day, registration and licensing is required in DC, just to keep a firearm in the home and unlocked. Ha ha

regulation is the law of the land should any local govt choose to do it.
In the Bruen case the Supreme Court also said that the fucking asshole Democrats could not have oppressive licensing requirements. It has to be Constitutional Carry or Shall Issue. Both things the Democrat shitheads hate.
 

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Of course it was. You’re totally absurd. If it wasn’t lethal, it would not be chosen at all. You don’t even know what lethality is do you ? We’re talking about lethality to humanoids, not a killer whale.



No, it was chosen for its ability to WOUND, not kill. The object in war is wounding because you take 5 men off the field instead of just one.
 

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In the Bruen case the Supreme Court also said that the fucking asshole Democrats could not have oppressive licensing requirements. It has to be Constitutional Carry or Shall Issue. Both things the Democrat shitheads hate.
Regulation is the law of the land
 

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No, it was chosen for its ability to WOUND, not kill.
Hilariously bullshit. You never served did you…..if that were the case mr uninformed we’d have a separate unit just to pick up combatants and nurse them back to health. What a bunch of bull crap. I suppose flame throwers and nukes were designed to just wound the enemy so we could what, spend trillions nursing all victims back to health. Oh, we specifically tried To what, shoot the guns out of the hands of the enemy . You need a stint in the infantry…

Find one military man who was taught to wound combatants..
geesus, you think the arms makers are trying to put our servicemen at risk with weapons that aren’t designed to be lethal ? Can you get any dumber ?
 
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The Democrat turds tried that in DC and Chicago and the Supreme Court told them that they couldn't stop Dick Heller and Otis McDonald from having them.

You know, that pesky Bill of Rights thingy that you Libtards hate so much.
Really, you guys are the election deniers. You guys are taking away woman’s health rights.
 

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Regulation is the law of the land
Keeping Dick Heller and Otis McDonald from owning firearms was "the law of the land" until the Supremes put an end to the oppression.

The fucking pieces of shit Democrats don't care about "the law of the land" because they continue to disregard Heller and McDonald and they have publicly stated they are going to disregard Bruen.

They sure as hell don't enforce the laws against unlawful entry into the US at the US southern border, do they? Potatohead is allowing millions of the little fuckers to flood in and a good number of them are carrying illegal drugs that kill Americans. Not to mention the sex slavery.

They didn't not enforce the laws against insurrection when they let the goddamn BLM Negros get away with months of destruction against Federal, State and Local property and it also included murder.

The Democrats didn't follow the voting laws when they used the scam of fraudulent unverified mail in and harvested ballots counted by Democrats to steal the 2020 election, did they?
 

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No, it was chosen for its ability to WOUND, not kill. The object in war is wounding because you take 5 men off the field instead of just one.
Hilarious. At 700 feet per minute plus faster then the famous mid size hunting cartridge .30-30 which is not designed to just wound but humanely kill, the .223 produces a much greater wound channel in gelatin with much less recoil. So if a .223 is designed to just wound, it’s an utter failure.
 

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Keeping Dick Heller and Otis McDonald from owning firearms was "the law of the land" until the Supremes put an end to the oppression.

The fucking pieces of shit Democrats don't care about "the law of the land" because they continue to disregard Heller and McDonald and they have publicly stated they are going to disregard Bruen.

They sure as hell don't enforce the laws against unlawful entry into the US at the US southern border, do they? Potatohead is allowing millions of the little fuckers to flood in and a good number of them are carrying illegal drugs that kill Americans. Not to mention the sex slavery.

They didn't not enforce the laws against insurrection when they let the goddamn BLM Negros get away with months of destruction against Federal, State and Local property and it also included murder.

The Democrats didn't follow the voting laws when they used the scam of fraudulent unverified mail in and harvested ballots counted by Democrats to steal the 2020 election, did they?
Sorry, not reading your made up tripe.
 

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Sorry, not reading your made up tripe.
Of course you don't want want to read it.

You stupid uneducated Moon Bats have no intentions of ever pulling your heads out of your asses, do you?
 

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You’re waddling in assumptions and taking it into minutia…..

The military performs a lot of laudable services, from search and rescue to technology that is used to help mankind in general……but it also developed through their contractors, weapons for mass killings. Artillery, nukes, and the AR15/m16 are just some of them.

Why are you promoting and excusing their use by civilians ?


Because the AR-15 rifle is just a rifle......no more, no less than any other rifle.......and the fact that idiots like you want it banned shows you don't care about anything other than banning guns.......if you get the AR-15, you will then demand all the other semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns...see the latest democrat gun grab in the House.......and after that, you will come for the rest.......

Civilians have 24 million AR-15 rifles and other semi-automatic rifles modeled on the AK-47...each year a bare handful are used to commit crimes......and that, you dumb twit, is no rational reason to take guns away from normal gun owners.

Knives are used to murder over 1,500 people every year....rifles of all types barely 400.....so according to your twisted logic, we need to ban knives, since they are deadlier than AR-15 rifles.....

Right?
 

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Hilarious. At 700 feet per minute plus faster then the famous mid size hunting cartridge .30-30 which is not designed to just wound but humanely kill, the .223 produces a much greater wound channel in gelatin with much less recoil. So if a .223 is designed to just wound, it’s an utter failure.


You really don't know what you are talking about........the military is right now replacing the 5.56 round.....the one they use in the M4 rifle and used in the past AR-15 because it doesn't in fact, kill....and at longer ranges it is not doing the job they need....as shown in the mountains of Afghanistan........

You don't know what you are talking about, you spew feet per minutes to hide your ignorance....
 

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No, it was chosen for its ability to WOUND, not kill. The object in war is wounding because you take 5 men off the field instead of just one.


Not to forget the resources needed to treat the wounded.....a dead guy gets no medical attention....wounded get all sorts of expensive resources.......logistics and understanding logistics wins wars.....not just bullets...
 

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White supremest at it again. Got your bed sheet holes cut out for tonight’s cross burning ?
My god you are an imbecile. Supporting the Bill of Rights isn't racism you moron.

Of course in Moon Bat Land everything is racist, isn't it? Even the climate.
 

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