I Served 25 Years in the Service - And this Asshole is Doing What?????

[SFC Ollie]

Anyone who wants the people who are already on a fixed income to pay more than they already pay needs to get out of Washington.........

 

[mudwhistle]

Anyone who wants the people who are already on a fixed income to pay more than they already pay needs to get out of Washington.........

That includes any Republicans.

Obama wants to shaft the military and leave his pet programs alone.

 

[uscitizen]

I've spent some time reading this thread and I admit that I had to skip parts of it. But I'll tell you there are some assholes and stupid motherfuckers posting here.

Folks Get off your collective asses and do something about this shit. Posting on this board does nothing but maybe let you feel good. Here is what I did:

Message sent to the following recipients:
Secretary Panetta
Representative Ryan
Senator Brown
Senator Portman
President
Vice President
Message text follows:

SFC Everett Oliver



February 23, 2012

[recipient address was inserted here]


Dear [recipient name was inserted here],

The following message is in regard to the proposed 2013 defense budget and
the proposed hikes in TRICARE fees.

In the year I enlisted in the US Army (1971) we were told, or promised,
that if we faithfully served 20 years or more on active duty that we would
receive a pension and free Medical care for life.

Then came Tricare. (add up the dollars)

Then we were told at age 65 we would have to switch to Medicare. (add more
dollars)

Now you are telling us not only do you want us to pay for medicare but you
also want to charge us more for Tricare for life.

I suppose the American Indians were right, our government speaks with
forked tongue.

Sincerely,


SFC Everett Oliver
US Army
Retired

And yet I bet if I look hard enough I'll find posts by you and Warrior and Gallant defending tax cuts and the rich, and the bankers who caused this financial mess in the first place....talk about wanting your cake and eating it too...

but the cuts are supposed to impact others not you!

 

[uscitizen]

Anyone who wants the people who are already on a fixed income to pay more than they already pay needs to get out of Washington.........

fixed income...

Yet another programmed situation of the USA.

Fixed income also means no COLA.


And most can make some additional money.

 

[mudwhistle]

I've spent some time reading this thread and I admit that I had to skip parts of it. But I'll tell you there are some assholes and stupid motherfuckers posting here.

Folks Get off your collective asses and do something about this shit. Posting on this board does nothing but maybe let you feel good. Here is what I did:

Message sent to the following recipients:
Secretary Panetta
Representative Ryan
Senator Brown
Senator Portman
President
Vice President
Message text follows:

SFC Everett Oliver



February 23, 2012

[recipient address was inserted here]


Dear [recipient name was inserted here],

The following message is in regard to the proposed 2013 defense budget and
the proposed hikes in TRICARE fees.

In the year I enlisted in the US Army (1971) we were told, or promised,
that if we faithfully served 20 years or more on active duty that we would
receive a pension and free Medical care for life.

Then came Tricare. (add up the dollars)

Then we were told at age 65 we would have to switch to Medicare. (add more
dollars)

Now you are telling us not only do you want us to pay for medicare but you
also want to charge us more for Tricare for life.

I suppose the American Indians were right, our government speaks with
forked tongue.

Sincerely,


SFC Everett Oliver
US Army
Retired

And yet I bet if I look hard enough I'll find posts by you and Warrior and Gallant defending tax cuts and the rich, and the bankers who caused this financial mess in the first place....talk about wanting your cake and eating it too...

but the cuts are supposed to impact others not you!

Everyone is going to pay a heavy price for Obama's spending.

Problem is the price we'll pay won't really start till next year. He thinks he can cover it up until then.

 

[uscitizen]

And yet I bet if I look hard enough I'll find posts by you and Warrior and Gallant defending tax cuts and the rich, and the bankers who caused this financial mess in the first place....talk about wanting your cake and eating it too...

but the cuts are supposed to impact others not you!

Everyone is going to pay a heavy price for Obama's spending.

Problem is the price we'll pay won't really start till next year. He thinks he can cover it up until then.

But will pay nothing for the 10 trillion that was there before Obama?
Partisan parrot.

 

[Salt Jones]

It seems like a lot of selected outrage is going on here.

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) wants to cut taxpayer funding for non-military elements of the Defense Department, starting with making retired, uninjured service members pay more for what he described as “extremely low-cost health care for life” for themselves, their spouses and dependents under the Tricare Prime system.

For military retirees eligible for Medicare, he also wants to raise the co-payments that they are charged to be in Tricare for life, the second payer for health care after Medicare. In addition, he wants to increase low fees that Tricare beneficiaries pay for pharmaceuticals purchased at their local drugstores....... Coburn wants the fees to be much higher and more in line with private-sector health plans.

Instead, he wants to increase the enrollment fee for single retirees to “approximately $2,000 per year and $3,500 for a family.” At the same time he would limit out-of-pocket expenses at $7,500 for those retirees with families. He thinks these changes could save $11.5 billion a year.

Tom Coburn’s cuts: Military’s Tricare Prime health care program targeted - The Washington Post

Sounds like Obama's plan.

You sure they didn't cut and past Obama's plan and put it on Coburn's plan???

The massive spending Obama has been doing is going to hit everyone. Obama wants to focus on the military. Everything else is untouchable.

This is the detriment of this board. Posters have no clue about the topic they are outraged about.

Coburn had this plan last year in July and he floated it when Bush was prez.

"Former defense secretary Robert M. Gates proposed raising Tricare Prime enrollment fees for single retirees from $230 a year to $260 a year and fees for retiree families from $460 a year to $520 a year. Coburn wants the fees to be much higher and more in line with private-sector health plans."

Tom Coburn’s cuts: Military’s Tricare Prime health care program targeted - The Washington Post

 

[Salt Jones]

Anyone who wants the people who are already on a fixed income to pay more than they already pay needs to get out of Washington.........

Why? Is it Washington's fault you are on a fixed income? Your piss poor planning is of no concern to me.

 

[uscitizen]

We need to privatize the VA?

 

[mudwhistle]

but the cuts are supposed to impact others not you!

Everyone is going to pay a heavy price for Obama's spending.

Problem is the price we'll pay won't really start till next year. He thinks he can cover it up until then.

But will pay nothing for the 10 trillion that was there before Obama?
Partisan parrot.

Speaking Of Birds

 

[mudwhistle]

Anyone who wants the people who are already on a fixed income to pay more than they already pay needs to get out of Washington.........

fixed income...

Yet another programmed situation of the USA.

Fixed income also means no COLA.


And most can make some additional money.

Or you could just push them off a cliff.

 

[uscitizen]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVynnbx1Xsc]Bush Giving the Finger - YouTube[/ame]

 

[uscitizen]

Anyone who wants the people who are already on a fixed income to pay more than they already pay needs to get out of Washington.........

fixed income...

Yet another programmed situation of the USA.

Fixed income also means no COLA.


And most can make some additional money.

Or you could just push them off a cliff.

You mean they do not have enough personal responsibility to jump on their own?

 

[gallantwarrior]

I thought it was more like going through life laughing at the stupidity of the US neocon whackjob mentality. I know I get a good few chuckles every day....it's almost like a race to the bottom as you guys try and outdo each other for dumbest post of the day...

You're not a European, are you Gump?

I mean, even the French look down on you, don't they?

Gump tried to be a "real" Aussie once, but fucked it up, like he does everything... You wrestled a shrimp and tried to throw a crock on the barbie, dincha....

Didn't work out real well for you, did it?

Naw, I like Ockers, but am a NZer

Like the French too for all their snobbery and lack of fight, they crack me up.

You're just jealous because you don't live down here. It's Ok to admit you live in a country whose economy is going down faster than Nina Hartley on a football team..

Wait a minute, didn't I see a movie about NZ? I think having elves and those little guys for neighbors might be OK, but I'm not so crazy about trolls and orcs.

 

[SFC Ollie]

And yet I bet if I look hard enough I'll find posts by you and Warrior and Gallant defending tax cuts and the rich, and the bankers who caused this financial mess in the first place....talk about wanting your cake and eating it too...

but the cuts are supposed to impact others not you!

Everyone is going to pay a heavy price for Obama's spending.

Problem is the price we'll pay won't really start till next year. He thinks he can cover it up until then.

We need to make a lot of noise.........

 

[SFC Ollie]

Anyone who wants the people who are already on a fixed income to pay more than they already pay needs to get out of Washington.........

Why? Is it Washington's fault you are on a fixed income? Your piss poor planning is of no concern to me.

My Planning has nothing to do with my health asshole.

 

[Dr Grump]

You're not a European, are you Gump?

I mean, even the French look down on you, don't they?

Gump tried to be a "real" Aussie once, but fucked it up, like he does everything... You wrestled a shrimp and tried to throw a crock on the barbie, dincha....

Didn't work out real well for you, did it?

Naw, I like Ockers, but am a NZer

Like the French too for all their snobbery and lack of fight, they crack me up.

You're just jealous because you don't live down here. It's Ok to admit you live in a country whose economy is going down faster than Nina Hartley on a football team..

Wait a minute, didn't I see a movie about NZ? I think having elves and those little guys for neighbors might be OK, but I'm not so crazy about trolls and orcs.

What about dwarves and wizards?

 

[gallantwarrior]

Naw, I like Ockers, but am a NZer

Like the French too for all their snobbery and lack of fight, they crack me up.

You're just jealous because you don't live down here. It's Ok to admit you live in a country whose economy is going down faster than Nina Hartley on a football team..

Wait a minute, didn't I see a movie about NZ? I think having elves and those little guys for neighbors might be OK, but I'm not so crazy about trolls and orcs.

What about dwarves and wizards?

Dwarves are little guys, too. And wizards are the 1%. They would never live in my neighborhood.

 

[ogibillm]

You truly are an idiot aren't you?
First you are the guy who thinks that the military is some 9 to 5 job and now you think that we should pay for what we were told was part of our pay. I retired in 93, my healthcare was free. In 95 that went from zero to $460, plus co-pays. As of last October the co-pays went up on prescriptions.
When I was forced to go on medicare my costs for healthcare went fro $460 to $2500. Now they are talking about adding as much as another $2000.....

Sound like part of our pay to you?

Go the **** away.

you just don't want to admit that by and large the military is a regular job with regular hours.

and no, i don't like promises that aren't kept, but you have to admit that all things being equal even with the increase retirees would still be getting very cheap, very good healthcare.

You dumb ass. I spent 22 years on active duty, I don't think I went one week of 9 to 5.
Most of the time it was at least 12 hour days, 10 if you had a light day. And 18 hours if you were deployed. And I was deployed a lot...........

So now that you have proven that you know nothing about the military, STFU

i was specific in mentioning that i did not include deployments in my comments

that aside, it's funny how you and everyone that is supported by it seem to claim such long days and weeks in this, and yet everyone i know in the military has regular hours...

weird.

in other words, i think you protest too much. or perhaps things have changed. either way, i know quite a few people on their way to retirement before age 50 that put in no more time than their civilian counterparts (again, while not deployed)

further, i know many that while deployed had regular schedules and regular shifts. they may have been working a 10 hour day six days a week, but that's not exactly unique to the military either.

 

[The Gadfly]

I wouldn't want to vote in the US...

Funny how some of the Dems' most vocal advocates are foreigners. Kind of ironic. I'd like to have someone I could support in your country who's trying to bring it down around your ears. That would be hilarious.

You must think Americans are so stupid, and in our looney-left's case you would be right.

I'm a centrist. I don't really like either of your parties or your political system.

No, I think a certain group of right-wing neocon yanks are stupid. And the advocates of such beliefs prove it every day on this board...

And I think a bunch of FOREIGN socialists, Communists and Greens are even more stupid. The difference is, I'm not on a political message board in YOUR countries telling you how to govern yourselves. I couldn't care less about your internal affairs, whether you break yourselves through socialist policies, or let yourselves be overrun by a tide of Muslim immigrants, if that's your choice. As far as I am concerned, you and your respective countries have an absolute right to go to hell in the handbasket of your own choosing. Now, I think it would be nice, if you would accord America and Americans the same damn privilege. You want to treat your own soldiers and vets like dogshit? No wonder you have to rely on us to defend you, if and when the shit really hits the fan! Lecture us on our military and how we handle it, when you can field a force that has not only the skill, but the numbers and the technology, to fight its way out of a wet paper bag!